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Originally posted by: krystal_watz
Ass: Speaking of Bihar, how do you think an alliance with the LJP will turn out for BJP? Think it'll cost them the upper caste Bhumihar votes?
Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum
@MrAss=> totally agree with you on both Swamy and the fact that every other party has one leader to project.
another point- as far as congress goes the theme is set by someone like Sonia/ RG. Power emanates from them with the immediiate circle having some freedom to set policy. The MPs are just ariithmetic and warm bodies, they dont really count for much else. So for all the hue and cry about goon MPs, it does not really matter because decision making is concentrated at the top. If someone votes for an AAP guy in their constituency, it's a vote for kejri at the end of the day. Ditto for BJP/ Modi. Under the circumstances, it's more important who the leader is, not how many crimes the MP might have committed.😆one of the ironies imo is that out of the entire bunch, it is the congress leaders that are the most suave and articulate, often educated at places like harvard etc. .By comparison, the BJP guys look like old fogeys. The AAP guys look like self-made achievers, but still not as suave as the congress guys. Irony is that in spite of all that class, they were the ones who looted away...it's really a shame that people like sibal and maken and scindia who had great credentials, just turned into puppets. Speaks of the sucking up people have to do to stay in position, and the power of that one or two party leader. By comparison, the BJP politicians are not very media savvy/ friendly. I'd vote for them nonetheless because that's the only way to strengthen Modi. But i am not sure others would do that. AAP for example has been putting up some really good candidates for eg. in north mumbai.And what's this about Gul panag waiting to join BJP, getting ignored, and finally going with AAP from chandigarh. It's a shame because her's is a great family... her dad was a top general too. I am sorry but BJP has not been fielding great candidates... Too bad i have to vote for them in order to get Modi..
Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum
@MrAss=> totally agree with you on both Swamy and the fact that every other party has one leader to project.
another point- as far as congress goes the theme is set by someone like Sonia/ RG. Power emanates from them with the immediiate circle having some freedom to set policy. The MPs are just ariithmetic and warm bodies, they dont really count for much else. So for all the hue and cry about goon MPs, it does not really matter because decision making is concentrated at the top. If someone votes for an AAP guy in their constituency, it's a vote for kejri at the end of the day. Ditto for BJP/ Modi. Under the circumstances, it's more important who the leader is, not how many crimes the MP might have committed.😆one of the ironies imo is that out of the entire bunch, it is the congress leaders that are the most suave and articulate, often educated at places like harvard etc. .By comparison, the BJP guys look like old fogeys. The AAP guys look like self-made achievers, but still not as suave as the congress guys. Irony is that in spite of all that class, they were the ones who looted away...it's really a shame that people like sibal and maken and scindia who had great credentials, just turned into puppets. Speaks of the sucking up people have to do to stay in position, and the power of that one or two party leader. By comparison, the BJP politicians are not very media savvy/ friendly. I'd vote for them nonetheless because that's the only way to strengthen Modi. But i am not sure others would do that. AAP for example has been putting up some really good candidates for eg. in north mumbai.And what's this about Gul panag waiting to join BJP, getting ignored, and finally going with AAP from chandigarh. It's a shame because her's is a great family... her dad was a top general too. I am sorry but BJP has not been fielding great candidates... Too bad i have to vote for them in order to get Modi..
Originally posted by: charminggenie
Brilliant discussion!!
So agree with everyone that BJP is really harming itself by nominating uninspiring candidates. Amit shah has not got the math right . I also feel hiring of corrupt/controversial figures at this point is damning the credibility.I don't get this constant in fighting as well. Too much of it is in the public. Though Advani is looking worse but it still gives a not so perfect picture specially when the elections are approaching.AAP has been real smart with their candidates. Chandigarh and Chandni Chowk is so interesting. Gul panag is a good candidate much better than Kiran Kher. Also I am not sure if jaitley can pull through Amritsar.I have a feeling a large section in BJP wants to restrict the tally under 200 , that opens the door to the seat for a lot of its leaders. Pity , if that happens. Honestly really disappointing ticket distribution.Varanasi makes a lot of sense for Modi.@Mr Bird- word!! Congress has probably the smartest , articulate leaders. More popular ones too. Yet they continue to hover around the satellite called Gandhi family when many more are far deserving. They use the names but never groom for top jobs, take Scindia,Pilot etc. Sachin Pilot is so well articulate , usually the fall guy in the media but he is never given much responsibility. Wasted potential. Too much colonial hangover in the party.Frankly with all the hard-work Modi has done , 190 would be such a downer.
Originally posted by: krystal_watz
Ass, no answer.
Originally posted by: krystal_watz
Things going steadily downhill for the BJP with Jaswant Singh being slighted on Barmer and Sushma openly siding with him, and this coming close on the heels of Advani being refused the Bhopal ticket. To make things worse, Shiv Sena has jumped on to the "trash BJP" bandwagon by decrying its decision to not include Advani in its first list. Looks like the game is just two steps away from being totally scrambled for the BJP and Modi. (NOT counting the ruckus that MMJ's followers have caused in UP by burning Modi's pictures).