Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
Purvi went away ? When ?? She could not even stay away in her pregnancy , she made an excuse and came back . And what part of the deal did Purvi keep ? Before going away to hide her pregnancy she hovered and hovered around Arjun like a coach , running his marraige for him . She admitted to Archana before fleeing that she cannot bear to see him with another woman ...the only truth perhaps she told in the nest of lies she built . That hovering continues to date ...so what part of the deal did she keep ...even giving up the baby does she know the meaning of that ? Why r the causes of the deal suddenly moot now ...the causes of Purvi's errors r indulgently and fondly defended in this very forum ! Purvi lived by no consequence . She flip flopped all the time . Ovi on the other hand lived steadily in an unhappy , rocky marraige ...Purvi even left the docile husband who sleeps on the floor , she is that unstable and not fit to be trusted .
And who says if a deal is struck it is struck ? Deals can be cancelled especially when not kept faithfully and human emotions can change ...Sunny Teju's emotions r changing in 15 days .
Originally posted by: hillydee
Arjun and Purvi did not come together in a good way, it was brutal, but they had already gone far with it, so it would have to be accepted that they got married eventually.I would have been upset about their marriage, but at the same time, I would not have wanted Ovi, to be in a loveless marriage and not have self-respect., so I would have gotten over it.The issue is not about them getting married, the issue was the before, how everything was handled and after. Ovi's parents shoving Arjun and Purvi's marriage in her face with their invitations cards giving out, while the girl is going through major depression, wanting to commit suicide etc. etc. Archana took sides and made Manav so desperate for her love take sides.What would have been good, is if they had put off the wedding for a while until Ovi felt better. No one cared about her, they expected her to just get over it in seconds, that is not possible. Arjun made a promise, whether he loved her or not. Indian Marriages are mostly based on love later, so why the hypocrisy for a Jodi?You cannot tell me in the Indian culture, that girls are not devastated when their engagement is broken, not to mention the implications in society, and how it can affect future engagements.So, while it is all nice and dandy that Arjun found true love, he handled it poorly, in a cold and callous way, that is hard to forget.Purvi was a partner in that crime, and to date she is still doing the same foolishness and making matters worse. She has joined the marriage with them, by deciding when Arjun must consummate with Ovi, which Doctor should take care of his wife in pregnancy, and whose baby she should take when she loses her own. Who should breast feed Ovi's baby, whether she is a bad Mother or not. Can that seriously be a good thing by Purvi?If Purvi is doing all of this, she might as well have told Ovi..No, you cannot have him, because she is clearly married to Arjun if she is still running his life. If Ovi is psycho,then Purvi is a million times worse. If Ovi is a spoilt brat, who has to get her own way, then Purvi heads that club.So, Purvi has not Left Arjun after she accepted the deal.
Jhanvi,
I would love for you to answer this. I have time and again always blamed Ovi for that deal. I do not justify it ever, whether it is abandonment issues or desperation, or plain denail, whatever it was, I do not see it as justifiable in my eyes. I have laid full blame on her for putting forth the deal.Same way, justifying Purvi accepting the deal because of some kind of debt on her head for being adopted is not cool either. When we do not accept justifications for Ovi wanting to barter a man for mother, how is it kosher for Purvi to barter this same man for mother? If we consider some unconscious feelings of Purvi's debtful attitude in this, one can easily give same yard stick to Ovi and say that she had serious abandonment issues and none of the family helped the poor girl so she drove to the point of desperation. Purvi was desperate to get her mother happiness, Ovi as desperate to get the man she loves. At this point, you guys will say, oh but Purvi wanted it for someone else and Ovi was being selfish. Ok, I give that. Like I said, I have never unnecessarily put Ovi on some pedestal when she had made mistakes. And this one is her biggest one, so no cover up from my side for her. But then what about Mr. Kirloskar? He owed nothing to Archana, so him backing out for Purvi;s sake from their marriage is understandable, but marrying Ovi fully well that he can never give her love, what was that about? At this point, he did not know that Ovi had made the deal in the first place. He found out once they got hom from the wedding. So how did he not spare a thought for his so called childhood friend? He was being selfish too then, just to prove to purvi how much he loves her, he decided to put his childhood friend to hell knowing that he could never do justice to this marriage. But I guess, Arjun and Purvi are amar premis so all is justifiable.Fine, so that one month when she was being royally ignored by the husband, her existence was next to nothing for him, she had to watch the eye locks between husband and sister, the constant reminders of their past shoved in her face and then her crankyness about it, got no sympathy from me. I also felt, that she knew what she was getting inot, she had to face this. Ok.Now at that party, where the whole thing was laid bare to all, the facade Arjun-Ovi were following, the unconsummated status and even Arjun's undying love for Purvi. Ovi declared for one and all to hear that she was tired of this, could not take it anymore and wanted to move on. SO that was her first step towards making this right. Maybe, she did not say it so that Arjun-Purvi could reunite, but she did say it so that both her and arjun could be free from this marriage.Now, I understand Purvi not being able to say it out loud that she is pregnant to the family. She is too much of a "sanskaari" girl ( although everything she does screams opposite). So I won't point fingers here at her being unable to get her dirty secret out. But Arjun, he knew he did not love Ovi. at this point, he also KNEW she was ready to move on. He knew the deal fair and sqaure too. So nothing was hidden or underhand anymore. It was public news. So why the hell did he come back for a second chance? When Ovi was ready to move on, why does she deserve this now?The lovers could have re-united na? you guys still want it to happen anyway, after 2 weddings and 2 bacchas, so why not then when it was easier? Why did Arjun not stand up to Purvi and say, enough I am not ruining Ovi's life and my life anymore because none of us are happy in this marriage. I cannot love her. Purvi, when she knew she was pregnant, why did she not think Arjun had the right to know. After all, suddenly her claims that the family ka haq hai to know that pari is their daughter, why did she not think of this haq that time? When it was easier to come out with the truth than it is now. why did she not think of child's bhalai that time? That her child will grow up with bio dad? Why did this not occur to her that time? But instead, one more pyaar ki kasam and she says go please consummate with your wife. Did she not think of repurcussions? One man, who is already the father of her child, being father of Ovi's child too? Please don't tell me Purvi was childish and she thought of sab ki bhalai. Clearly that sab ki bhalai isn't in the picture now, so pray, it wasn't even then. She simply ran away toa avoid humiliation and all the name calling she would have recieved. But now it is called sab ki bhalai, and forget sab ki it is called ovi ki bhalai. who is she to decide what arjun-ovi's marriage is supposed to be like? And that too, by giving her pyaar ki kasams to Arjun. Quite an ego centric person who knows she rules over this guy. Not the pure-vi in my head. After that one month declaration and the pathetic decision by the lovers, one to hide her pregnancy from him, other to listen to her bs and consummate with his wife instead of divorcing her, since then, it has been dhokha to ovi. She has sufffered constantly in this marriage, with a pathetic excuse of a husband and ghost of her sister's past always controlling this husband.Once ovi came clean on that day a month later, it has only been Arjun-Purvi;s mistakes and that is why it is dhoka. Explain and enlighten me on why Purvi hid her pregnancy to Arjun and why Arjun did not divorce ovi after she was ready to move on? Were they playing a revenge game on her for that deal? So then what is the difference between all 3? And if you tell me Purvi thought of bhalai, that is really not kosher. She did not think of her child growing up withotu a bio dad, she did not think of Arjun's misery in this marriage, she did not think of her family who would be devastated by finding out an ugly truth when 2 babies are in question, and she definitely did not think of Ovi who she knew had to suffer a loveless marriage, because Arjun could only provide as a husband but could never love her. ( i don't deride her for not looking out for Ovi, cuz she had no reason to, but then she should not blame ovi ' insecurities for her bs reasons for hiding face and running away and nor she should say ovi ki bhalai, cuz usually she doesn't do anything taht results in her bhaalai)After 7-9 months, she comes back and then all this new buckwaas comes up in her head about swapping babies, only to finally come out with the ugly truth. Assuming that Ovi should forgive them and family to accept this, because it is family ka haq now. When was that haq in that one month party may i know? Purvi does as is convenient to her and there is no bhalai in anything she does. She is an egocentric person who cloaks her BS in the name of bhalai and mahaanta.And as much as we would disagree on this, I can lay my blame on Ovi when she is wrong, but it seems like Purvi will be defended even if she goes ahead and murders Ovi simply because of that one deal.
Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
Purvi went away ? When ?? She could not even stay away in her pregnancy , she made an excuse and came back . And what part of the deal did Purvi keep ? Before going away to hide her pregnancy she hovered and hovered around Arjun like a coach , running his marraige for him . She admitted to Archana before fleeing that she cannot bear to see him with another woman ...the only truth perhaps she told in the nest of lies she built . That hovering continues to date ...so what part of the deal did she keep ...even giving up the baby does she know the meaning of that ? Why r the causes of the deal suddenly moot now ...the causes of Purvi's errors r indulgently and fondly defended in this very forum ! Purvi lived by no consequence . She flip flopped all the time . Ovi on the other hand lived steadily in an unhappy , rocky marraige ...Purvi even left the docile husband who sleeps on the floor , she is that unstable and not fit to be trusted .
And who says if a deal is struck it is struck ? Deals can be cancelled especially when not kept faithfully and human emotions can change ...Sunny Teju's emotions r changing in 15 days .
I agree with everything you say EXCEPT the final parts on bold. I post rarely but I had once said the same thing - that Purvi should NEVER have accepted Arjun. She does not have enough selfishness to keep him after she knew about Ovi. Arjun, Archana and Sulo convinced her she could have him. But she herself did not believe it. Which is why the whole deal happened.I cannot accept that a man can sleep with a woman on someone else's say-so. Yes, she told him to get married to Ovi. WHat was he? A man or a puppet? He has a brain and he made a choice. Purvi did not threaten to kill herself or any such nonsense. He chose to get married to OVi and then he decided to sleep with his wife. Not at all wrong. But not Purvi's doing.Now the baby stuff is all Purvi's misguided actions but yet not villainous.My entire point in all these posts is that neither Ovi nor Purvi is a victim and neither are they villains. Just plain idiots.
Originally posted by: soapwatcher1
. The last couple of weeks lent some hope that Ovi was moving in this direction but this latest fiasco has set her back again. I am not sure if this leopard can ever change its spots. π
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