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Posted: 13 years ago

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Thanks for the wishes everyone! :)

@Arti,

Thank you for sharing the story of Shambu, the son of Shurpanakha. Actually, this is what 2008 Ramayana showed. They showed Lakshman accidentally killing Shambu and then feeling remorse. He went to Ramji and Ramji consoled him saying Shambu was an unrighteous demon, so there was no sin in killing him. Shurpanakha comes to the place where Shambu's body is and vows revenge. She follows the trail of his blood (as left by Lakshmana's sword) and comes upon Ram and Sita's cottage. There she sees Rama and feels lust for him, and when Ram spurns her love she goes to Lakshman, and from there everyone knows the story.

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath
Thanks for the wishes everyone! :)

@Arti,

Thank you for sharing the story of Shambu, the son of Shurpanakha. Actually, this is what 2008 Ramayana showed. They showed Lakshman accidentally killing Shambu and then feeling remorse. He went to Ramji and Ramji consoled him saying Shambu was an unrighteous demon, so there was no sin in killing him. Shurpanakha comes to the place where Shambu's body is and vows revenge. She follows the trail of his blood (as left by Lakshmana's sword) and comes upon Ram and Sita's cottage. There she sees Rama and feels lust for him, and when Ram spurns her love she goes to Lakshman, and from there everyone knows the story.

happy bday janaki and yaa the sambhu incident is very popular in kerala... kerala folklore versions adopted from various puppet dramas on Ramayana (goes on for 17-26 nights) and enacted in Palghat they stresses on little known but important personality named Sambukumaran...the similar oral versions depicting Sambukumaran's role are also sung in many other Bhagavati temples of Kerala (and covers some 1,200 verses from the 10,000 odd verses in kampa Ramayana).Not only are these characters found in Kerala's folk dramas but also in Andhra and Karnataka. 😳

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Janaki

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Posted: 13 years ago

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I don't know about Sita being Vedavati's daughter, since Vedavati was Lakshmi's avatar and was reborn as Sita herself, but I read in another version that Sita was Mandodari and Ravan's daughter, and that Mandodari tried to kill her at birth by burying her in the Earth (near Janakpur) to get revenge on Ravan. She was jealous of all the queens Ravan had brought to Lanka, and since Ravan had always wanted a daughter after having 100 sons, she wanted to deny him the happiness of having a daughter.

But of course, Sita did not die when she was buried alive and instead was found by Janak and his wife later on. When Ravan kidnapped her and brought her to Lanka, Mandodari recognized her and tried to stop Ravan from marrying her, but she did not want to tell him that Sita was his daughter because then he would be angry for what she had done.

These are all just folk tales though. According to Valmiki Ramayana and other respected sources, Sita Mata was Ayonija, meaning that she was not born of a human womb. She was the Mother of the Universe so she could not be born again in another woman's womb, since all women are like her daughters. I don't believe in any of these folk stories that say Sita was the daughter of Ravan.

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: arti07

happy bday janaki and yaa the sambhu incident is very popular in kerala... kerala folklore versions adopted from various puppet dramas on Ramayana (goes on for 17-26 nights) and enacted in Palghat they stresses on little known but important personality named Sambukumaran...the similar oral versions depicting Sambukumaran's role are also sung in many other Bhagavati temples of Kerala (and covers some 1,200 verses from the 10,000 odd verses in kampa Ramayana).Not only are these characters found in Kerala's folk dramas but also in Andhra and Karnataka. 😳

Yeah, in Andhra there are some stories called Hari Kathas, where a pair of dancers tell the different stories of Lord Vishnu which are not found in the popular sources. It is very interesting to learn these different stories, because some of them have some nice morals and make for good bedtime stories for children.😆

Btw, do you know which source has the Shri Ram-Hanuman Yudh? This is a very popular story and I don't know whether it's a folk story or it's written in a popular source, but it's been adapted into quite a few movies and the 2008 Ramayana also showed this during Uttar Kand.

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Posted: 13 years ago

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^ i have only read one version tht says once narad corrupted lord hanuman's mind and he insulted vishwamitra ...the sage complaint it to lord rama and lord rama decided to punish lord hanuman and accordningly lord rama aimed arrow at hanuman but lord hanuman began to recite lord rama name ... Ramchhandraji took out his bow and arrows and went on shooting the arrows one by one. All became a garland and fell on his head. Hanuman was standing, nothing happened to him. Rama kept on shooting arrows. and he kept chanting lord Rama name...Then all the Sages and Angels who had gathered to witness this beautiful drama came and pacified Rama. "Maharaj, please forgive us. We just wanted to see this drama, see the play." And they all obtained Rama's Grace and they all went away

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the one where lord rama aimed arrow at hanuman and lord hanuman recited lord rama name and he was safe...????

Yeah, it's about how Kashi naresh unknowingly insulted Vishvamitra and Vishvamitra vowed revenge on him. Vishvamitra went to Ramji telling him that someone had insulted him, and Ramji immediately vowed that he would kill the man who had insulted him. Hearing this, Kashi Naresh gets scared and goes to Anjana Devi, Lord Hanuman's mother, for help. Hearing the whole tale, Anjana tells Lord Hanuman that Kashi Naresh has come to his shelter, and that it's his duty to protect him from the King who wants to kill him. Lord Hanuman immediately obeys his mother's command and vows to protect Kashi Naresh at all costs!

Then Lord Ram and Lord Hanuman find out that they have to fight each other and are dismayed.😭 Lord Ram aims his arrow at Kashi Naresh but Lord Hanuman counters all his arrows by chanting Ram Naam, thereby proving that Lord Ram's name is even more powerful than him! In the end, Vishvamitra sees the consequences of God and devotee fighting each other, and to bring peace to everyone he forgives Kashi Naresh. He also tells Lord Ram to put down his arrow, and Lord Ram immediately obeys his command since Vishvamitra is like a Guru to him. Lord Ram then grants a boon to Lord Hanuman that whoever chants Hanuman's name will please Ram, and whoever chants Ram's name will please Hanuman.