Forgive Gauri before you forgive Jagya

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I've come across a lot of posts where people say that Jagya should be forgiven, his character is being butchered by CVs by making him a villain, he is and will remain the main lead of the show... which makes me wonder why none of us lent the same treatment to Gauri? Let me draw some parallels here:

Both Gauri & Jagya were intelligent and educated, yet they were turned into villains.

Now, we dont know much about Gauri as a child but when she was studying with Jagya- I remember her as being a nice mormal girl who was sympathetic and empathetic to child brides, was disgusted when she heard the story of 'Nandini' and her shehri husband (Anandi's alter ego when Jagya had introduced them for the first time)... Later CVs changed her totally. But it was still acceptable. She was a woman in love- She had been with Jagya for 5-6 yrs, had so much faith in him that she was living with him. But he had lied to her about everything, even his name! So of course she became insecure! And took it out on Anandi and the Singhs, so what? She had not taken a vow of marriage with them n was liable only by humanity... nothing else.

Jagya on the other hand, we know he was a mean n selfish person since he was a child n his character has gone over to the dark side little by little. He cheated on two women, but when the second one lied to him (it wasnt even infidelity!!!), he dumped her so easily and now he thinks he has a claim to all his lost happiness? gimme a break. The list of Jagya's crimes is endless. I know some ppl say that he was always a nice guy at heart. Following are the things that nice guys at heart DO NOT DO:

1. Try to break up someone's marriage.
2. Manipulate family members.
3. Lie to their spouses.
4. Never understand their mistakes and if they do, they expect only token punishment.
5. Try to harm someone professionally.

Now let me tell you that Gauri has also done the above things (some if not all) and most of you hate her. Then why not hate Jagya?

The real reason everyone hates Gauri is that she was blunt, fought her wars openly n said harsh things...while Jagya does some sweet things and then goes back to back-stabbing.

So i say this again, before everyone speaks of Jagya getting his happiness, Gauri must be forgiven too! Unless, you are gender-biased and/or judgmental to women. Then toh mera kuch bhi kehna useless hai.

[P.S. One thing I seriously hate: ppl say Gauri is really bad for living with someone else's husband, breaking up a marriage. Let me tell you that it takes two to tango n only a husband/wife can break a marriage, its never a third person. i dislike Gauri only for being mean to Anandi- but that's not a crime. The only thing I like about Jagya is that he saved Anandi from Heth Singh that one time.]

After reading the comments: People think I'm a Gauri supporter, so no way, i'm not!!! I'm just saying that nobody cares about her!! And i feel that truly stems from unconscious gender bias n the ancient roles that society gave women. If you don't agree, that's fine, odds are that i don't agree with you either. And i'm not asking/ forcing anybody to change their views, i'm just telling you why i feel a certain way- why ppl cant respect that is a mystery to me.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Very nicely put...Jagya's sins far outweigh that of Gauri...and he doesnt deserve to be forgiven even if Gauri is forgiven...coz he has no valid reasons to justify the crimes he committed...and if he doesn't have the tolerance to forgive Gauri for her small mistakes (definitely small when compared to his ) then how can he expect the same tolerance and forgiveness for his crimes???
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: michelle281194

I've come across a lot of posts where people say that Jagya should be forgiven, his character is being butchered by CVs by making him a villain, he is and will remain the main lead of the show... which makes me wonder why none of us lent the same treatment to Gauri? Let me draw some parallels here:


Both Gauri & Jagya were intelligent and educated, yet they were turned into villains.

Now, we dont know much about Gauri as a child but when she was studying with Jagya- I remember her as being a nice mormal girl who was sympathetic and empathetic to child brides, was disgusted when she heard the story of 'Nandini' and her shehri husband (Anandi's alter ego when Jagya had introduced them for the first time)... Later CVs changed her totally. But it was still acceptable. She was a woman in love- She had been with Jagya for 5-6 yrs, had so much faith in him that she was living with him. But he had lied to her about everything, even his name! So of course she became insecure! And took it out on Anandi and the Singhs, so what? She had not taken a vow of marriage with them n was liable only by humanity... nothing else.

Jagya on the other hand, we know he was a mean n selfish person since he was a child n his character has gone over to the dark side little by little. He cheated on two women, but when the second one lied to him (it wasnt even infidelity!!!), he dumped her so easily and now he thinks he has a claim to all his lost happiness? gimme a break. The list of Jagya's crimes is endless. I know some ppl say that he was always a nice guy at heart. Following are the things that nice guys at heart DO NOT DO:

1. Try to break up someone's marriage.
2. Manipulate family members.
3. Lie to their spouses.
4. Never understand their mistakes and if they do, they expect only token punishment.
5. Try to harm someone professionally.

Now let me tell you that Gauri has also done the above things (some if not all) and most of you hate her. Then why not hate Jagya?

The real reason everyone hates Gauri is that she was blunt, fought her wars openly n said harsh things...while Jagya does some sweet things and then goes back to back-stabbing.

So i say this again, before everyone speaks of Jagya getting his happiness, Gauri must be forgiven too! Unless, you are gender-biased and/or judgmental to women. Then toh mera kuch bhi kehna useless hai.

[P.S. One thing I seriously hate: ppl say Gauri is really bad for living with someone else's husband, breaking up a marriage. Let me tell you that it takes two to tango n only a husband/wife can break a marriage, its never a third person. i dislike Gauri only for being mean to Anandi- but that's not a crime. The only thing I like about Jagya is that he saved Anandi from Heth Singh that one time.]


I'am assuming that this title "Forgive G befor eu forgive J" is directed to the singh's and not to the members. Because it is the singh's who forgave J.

@ blue--- I don't understand this point.

Who lied to Gauri? --- Jagya

Does G know that?----YES

On whom did she seek revenge?---The Singh's and Anandi of all!!!! How mean of this mistress to seek revenge on a beaten soul(anandi)??

Okay coming to this forgiving thing, i would weigh J-G crimes as even. Both were so perfect to each other😭.

Still , i think G cannot be forgiven. Because she never ever felt sorry for her ugly deeds. J was once the most loved and pampered member of the Singh family. Still they did not forgive him. They forgave him ONLY after he begged and begged them after a series of incidents. Bhairon has not given him a clean chit yet! They have this blood relation plus a changed J in front of them. How would this be compared to G who had been an arrogant ungrateful stranger to them all this while? A stranger who always humiliated their Daughter Anandi...and to top that she almost killed Badi maasi!

I think G can be forgiven if and only if she changes...feels ashamed for her deeds..and says sorry to Anandi for hurting her, abusing her and using her.



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Posted: 12 years ago
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very well put. well balika vadhu forum is an ideologically closed forum.
yahan par gauri ke baar eme kuch bhi positive bolna is blasphemy.
time n again i used to say although all my sympathies are with anandi and i am absolutely crazy about her , i somehow dont find gauri to be evil at all.
she was grey but she was nto all bad.
all her misfortunes were brought on by the two timing slime ball jagiya.
but when i used to sya thsi this forum used to up in arms. people would come out n bash me for beign gauri lover and supporter and that was a crime in their opinion. no amount of explainations i woudl give would make them udnerstand or they simply did nto want to understand.
one day i simpyl stopped posting here untill now.
im glad for one unbiased and mature opinion.
gauri is a female who was taken for a joyride by a casanova. her emotions and childhood hurt were manipulkated by the slime ball who simultaneously destroyed two lives that of gauri and anandi.
i dont care if jagiya's character was butchered ... that is how jagiya's character has developed . and the way it has developed ... he deserves no sympathy. i dotn care if he is forgiven and accepted back intot he family or not.
i dotn care if anandi marries shiv or not.
anandi shud never forgive jagiya.
not onyl that i want to see him kicked by gauri too.
the serial also carried a pertinent message to grandparents like dadisa. never spoil ur grandchildren this way. that they become sociopaths and egoistic bas***ds totally uncaring for others.
forget anandi even gauri was too good a wife for this selfish freak. btu say this and this forum will jump at you.
i dotn care for all the ********** here, the onyl fault gauri had was her loud voice, her screamign manenrisms and manipulative nature which was nowhere near that slime jagiya.
fir bhi log gauri gauri chillate hain. a woman is the worst victim. talk of witch hunting.
gauri ne jagiya ko phasaya yaa jagiya ne gauri ko. iniotially gauri did nto even know jagiya was married.
lekin ye lgo comfortably ye fact bhool jayenge.
tumko bhi ho sakta hai yahan bahut kuch sunane ko mile ... be prepared. this forum cannot tolerate anything positive about gauri.
oh and i am an anandi fan ... manana hai to maano , naa mamana hai to mat maano.
ye bolna ki gauri was wronged by jagiya too ... does not equal ye kaehna ki i support what gauri did to anandi.
agar fir bhi kissi ko aisa lagta hai to yeh uski samajah hai.


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Edited by Manasi_16 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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aur jagiya feeling sorry for any of his actions is a joke.
he cares for no1 .
he is sayign sorry to get his heaven back which he had himself kicked.
ab logon ko usse bhi sympathy hai to kya karen.
aisi selfish maafi se to koi maafi naa maage wo jada achha hai.
TOPIC MAKER
i back ur statements n post 200%. lekin i wont post any more , argueing with biased people will prove to be a waste of time.
just dont get upset with the views u may get to read.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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But gauri is not asking for forgiveness, is she?



That said, if you were to weigh their crimes, then jagya is the bigger culprit. How covenient for him to dump all his mistakes by saying gauri used him. Used him for what? His hot body? Because none of her professional achievements were bec of jagya. Bhairon contributed but not jagya


I think both of them are dispicable. But jagya is more than gauri
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I also do not think Gauri and Jagya's mistakes were even . Jagya is more to blame than Gauri any day.
Jagya broke his marriage , hurt his family.
Gauri's rant /misbehavior against Anandi and Singhs was not justified. But then .. they were not her own.Also this was the family because of which she had suffered so much of humiliation in childhood.
Gauri has never hurt her parents .She loves them in her own way.
Its a bigger crime to hurt your own people rather than strangers
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Posted: 12 years ago
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At topic maker,

One question to you? Has G asked for forgiveness yet?

She doesn't care, so why would anyone?

I am not if favour of J being forgiven either, but J came back asking for forgiveness, G hasn't
Edited by Missesha - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I'm not asking the creatives or the singhs to forgive Gauri, I'm saying that if some forum members speak in support of J (whom I can't forgive) they ought to forgive Gauri first. So its immaterial whether Gauri is asking for forgiveness or not
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I agree with you...i feel Jagya's faults are much more than Gauri...he lied to everyone about everything, there was hardly a moment when he did not lie...he lied about his name, he lied about Anandi to Gauri...well i guess it is in his nature to lie...he had this tendency from childhood...the problem is that he was a spoilt child...thanks to Dadisa, i guess...she always used to spoil Jagya even when he did something wrong...if it had not been for Anandi , Jagya would have gone on the wrong side long back...coming to Gauri, i dont really find too much fault in her...it was not she who went after Jagya...it was Jagya who went for her...professing love for her despite being married to Anandi...Gauri only accepted him when she came to know that he was Bhairon's son , whom she considered to be the cause of her "ruined childhood", thus with revenge in her mind she married Jagya...also i think that most of her bad and evil decisions were triggered off by her mother's advices...Gauri's mother influenced her a lot...that lady is really an evil one for sure...the insecurities that Gauri developed thinking of Anandi was because of what her mother had told her about Jagya going back to Anandi at the drop of the hat...hence all her fury got channelled towards Anandi.
As for forgiving Jagya, well he never did repent for his doings in the right way did he? so forgiving him is out of question...if he had just said sorry in a respectable manner and did not demand forgiveness, if he would have shown that he now is willing to live in an independent manner sans Gauri or his family, complete his MS then probably his family would have for given him..but he took all the wrong turns..

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