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Today's episode made me think about Vishakha.

I was in tears when Vishakha walked back out of the ceremony. Call me crazy but i feel she is the only person that has really moved on. Vishakha has done a lot wrong but I started looking at her character a little different

Yes
She is a pampered kid, got whatever she asked for. She has been selfish and thought only of herself but I started looking at it from her point.
Right from the beginning Vish only wanted to be a star and she had made that clear to everyone in her family. NOBODY ever wanted to listen. She never wanted to get married, she was never asked if she wanted to marry. The reason Shastriji thought that she needs to get married was because she had auditioned for a role and he did not think of it as the right thing to do.
They have shown her character very crystal clear. There is no guessing with her (as yet) She has shown to do exactly what she is thinking. She wanted to be in movies, but they forced her to get married. Being a star was so important to her that she actually ran away on her wedding day to give an audition.
She was so after what she wanted (to make it in movies) that she did not think too much of any of the rituals and that's why for her going to Dev's house as a bride when she was not married did not mean anything.
She did try to tell Dev that she did not want to get married by writing a letter to him. But the letter managed to drown in the river.
She also sacrificed by going as the bride as not doing so would have been a huge apman to her family. As everyone including Radhika thought that Dev wanted to get married to Vish. Rad's dialog long back "per rishta to Vishakha ke nam ka tha"
After she got married she again had to face rejection from her husband. He just refused to accept her as his wife (at this point i was thinking what if they had actually gotten married, for all reasons Dev thinks he did get married to VIsh). To start in a family where the person your married to not only rejects you but never talked about it. She thougth Dev was in love with her and that's why wanted to marry her but yet rejected her. That must have been a confusing state of mind.
Then she came to terms and thought may be going to US was not a bad idea. That did not happen. And then she had to be a part of the everyday routine and take up all the responsibilities as a raj purohit's wife. Every one asked Dev if he would take the responsibilities but nobody ever asked Vish.
She was smart and stood up for herself in front of Mrinalini and those dialoges were very interesting.
They have shown VIsh to be a little sensible to Rads too. She has stood up for her at the Purohit house when Mrin was after Rads. She even was sensitive to Keshav working for Dev when she knew that Rads was going to get married to Keshav.
She tried very hard to make the marriage work. She did it for her own benifit but what is wrong with that. When a person is in a situation where you know your husband doesn't like you and wants nothing to do with you then you would try to make the best of the situation.
When she realized that being a wife to a Raj purohit was not her cup of tea she decided to leave. It is the people around her that did not realize the seriouseness of her situatuion. She was so dedicated that she finally made it big. She was very clear that this was not for her. Its so funny that Dev and Rads thought that she Vish disrespected their families. She invited a man to her house (purabh, which she had not) But never thought what Dev did was wrong.To him, he was married to Vish but yet he was all over Rads once he found out that Rads was his dream girl. Was there nothing wrong with that? Was that not going against the two families. Rads did give a huge lecture to Dev about how we are not thinking of the two families that what on earth was she doing at the Purohit family, why try to make a marriage work between Dev and Vish when you can't truely let go of DEV.
Just because they where not public about their feelings doesn't make it right in any way. It is cheating with your wife/sister and funnily that was not such a big deal. (trust me i was one of fans that enjoyed every bit of the romance between Rad and Dev and that was the reason i started watching the serial)
When she broke off with Dev she was very clear as to why she did it, she was not pretending to make things up. She had told Dev of her dreams and he knew he was never with her mentally or physically so why is he so bitter about her leaving. That was the best thing that led him to be with the person he always wanted to. He should have been thankful to Vish rather than feel bad about it and make her the bad person. Dev knew he had not done the right thing with Vish then why so bitter about it????

Oh god the more i am thinking and writing I feel this whole story is messed up. I love Dev's character and liked Rads to a lot of extent but now feel they have just damaged their characters and I really hope they can clear this mess.
VIsh is the only person that has wanted to tell the truth and has tried to tell the truth. She regrets what she did and wants to pay back (I am really hoping the creatives don't do a 180 on her character that would suck). And I don't know why a lot of the members have a problem with Vish going after her dreams. What is so wrong in being an actor and being married. Have not most of the real life soap actors done some similar crazy thing to make it to where they are and is that not why we are getting to watch all these serials???

All said. I felt after today's pathetic dialog about "Apke Radhika ka haq" my opnion about Rads is just gone down. They need to fix this mess asap. They have to show her standing up for Dev and his family and they have to show Dev using his brains and not just getting manipulated. Let Vishakha be there at the wedding but for the right reasons and that according to me would be acceptance and moving on with your LIFE

wow great post. i completely agree with u and vish want to tell her dev truth but amma stop her.

Thank you devradhika4ever. Very interesting post. Many of the issues you have mentioned had plagued me initially when I started watching the show.

I understood Vishaka was no saint and that she choose to use the Purohits for her own benefit yet I couldn't help see the wrong in Radhika staying back to 'fix' her sister's marriage and even more wrong in Dev running behind Radhika when in his mind he was married to Vishaka. I don't think he ever mentioned to Vishaka that he was in love with another girl.

Vishaka never considered herself as Dev's wife yet many of us know how overwhelming it can be going to a new home as a bride- all the responsibilities and all the emotional compromises you have to make with the other members of the family. Usually in the early phase of the marriage, feelings of love and passion that we share with our spouse gets us through most of these difficult situations. Vishaka never had that.

The one sentence Vishaka tells Dev in Mumbai that why should she consider him as her husband when he never gave her the dignity of a wife or something to that effect was very revealing. While we were all annoyed at how Radhika could even think of dragging Dev to mumbai and having him insulted by Vishaka I thought Dev absolutely needed to hear that because that was the truth. He never gave Vishaka that dignity.

With the current story line of Radhika asking Dev for her rights, I have a slightly different take on it. As much as I found it disappointing the way the creatives have dealt with Radhika's character in this weeks episode I have to say I do not feel sorry for either Radhika nor Dev. In CB land its been just what a month since Radhika agreed to the marriage? Before going to Mumbai Radhika asks Dev " have you ever thought of what would happen if Vishaka came back" and then she said the 'I cannot give you back' dialogue after that. How is it that neither Dev nor Radhika never anticipated Vishaka's return or at least her presence back in their lives. Shouldn't they have at least thought of this possibility and talked about what they would do if it happened. Dev seems to be in a dilemma with all of Radhika's talk about Vishaka's rights as a sister and her rights as a bride. Why? How is that he never ever stated explicitly about how he might feel about Vishaka's return. I have a hard time agreeing to the thought that he didn't think Radhika would want Vishaka back. For a girl who has always thought of Vishaka's so called happiness until very recently wouldn't she think of Vishaka's happiness again. Shouldn't Dev have guessed this would happen and thought about a solution for the problem too.

In this particular situation I don't see it as Dev getting manipulated. They both are at fault for not thinking such a scenario could come up. Radhika has stated clearly what she wants to do with Vishaka. Now, Dev needs to state clearly what he wants to do with Vishaka.

So, I felt the creatives had messed up the characters both of Radhika and Dev's a long time back. At that point I would always think ' oh my goodness why would they do that - i would never do that' and then I stopped thinking that way and started to think 'what would Radhika do now or what would dev do now' then all the pieces started falling in place like a puzzle. So the more we think of it as Radhika and Dev's story rather than ours I think our disappointment with a particular character or the story line, goes down a lot.

So, I don't think Vishaka should ever be faulted for wanting to become as actor. Yes her means were a little dubious but also a lot of other people contributed to that knowingly or unknowingly including her own family and Radhika and Dev.

My two cents on this one .

Hi Angake,
I liked your response, I too don't feel bad for Dev and Radhika. What i felt bad was the way Rads talked about her haq it was just not called for. By making her say that the creatives have really made Rads character very cunning and smart. Which till now she was not seen as and she is not. The creatives by now must have realized that how much we all want Rads to stand up for herself and DEV and when she does try to stand up for her rights the only true reason behind it is that she wants Vish to be a part of the wedding.
There are so many issues here and they could have really dealt with it in a more logical way. Dev getting upset was very expected. They should have instead shown that Dev was surprised but then he himself should have said to Vish that he was glad she was here. If she had not left him he would never have been able to be with his love Rads. VIsh and Dev should have talked in front of Rads that how their marriage was a huge mistake for both of them and they should start fresh. That would have really been correct. His getting angry was like he did not want her to leave. She made it so easy for him. He at some point wanted to leave her himself, i guess that would not have got any shame to the two families???? So why show this track. They have shown Dev as a very forward thinking logical guy then why not show it right. And this was an opportunity for the creatives to show that Rads for a change is thinking of Dev. She should have been more concerned and cautious of Vish and once she realized Vish meant no harm she should have told Dev "look i know she is at fault for leaving but if she had not we never would be together. And by forgiving and forgetting about the past we can start fresh with no baggage between us. I feel the creatives lost a good opportunity to modify the characters. They did good to Vishakha's character but in the process just forgot to give good dialogs to the main lead characters.

They are called creatives for a reason, and the reason is that they can Create any character the way they want to. they can mold them the way they want to and i feel that's where they are lacking they are not giving enough thought to what they are coming up with. Its very important for them to make the lead characters likable I think yesterday's dialog was upsetting to to a huge section of the viewers and that could have been easily avoided.

Originally posted by: devradhika4ever

Hi Angake,<br>I liked your response, I too don't feel bad for Dev and Radhika. What i felt bad was the way Rads talked about her haq it was just not called for. By making her say that the creatives have really made Rads character very cunning and smart. Which till now she was not seen as and she is not. The creatives by now must have realized that how much we all want Rads to stand up for herself and DEV and when she does try to stand up for her rights the only true reason behind it is that she wants Vish to be a part of the wedding. <br>There are so many issues here and they could have really dealt with it in a more logical way. Dev getting upset was very expected. They should have instead shown that Dev was surprised but then he himself should have said to Vish that he was glad she was here. If she had not left him he would never have been able to be with his love Rads. VIsh and Dev should have talked in front of Rads that how their marriage was a huge mistake for both of them and they should start fresh. That would have really been correct. His getting angry was like he did not want her to leave. She made it so easy for him. He at some point wanted to leave her himself, i guess that would not have got any shame to the two families???? So why show this track. They have shown Dev as a very forward thinking logical guy then why not show it right. And this was an opportunity for the creatives to show that Rads for a change is thinking of Dev. She should have been more concerned and cautious of Vish and once she realized Vish meant no harm she should have told Dev "look i know she is at fault for leaving but if she had not we never would be together. And by forgiving and forgetting about the past we can start fresh with no baggage between us. I feel the creatives lost a good opportunity to modify the characters. They did good to Vishakha's character but in the process just forgot to give good dialogs to the main lead characters.<br><br>They are called creatives for a reason, and the reason is that they can Create any character the way they want to. they can mold them the way they want to and i feel that's where they are lacking they are not giving enough thought to what they are coming up with. Its very important for them to make the lead characters likable I think yesterday's dialog was upsetting to to a huge section of the viewers and that could have been easily avoided.<br>

I am in complete agreement with you especially about the creatives, devradhika4ever!!!!

Devradhika4ever I do not at all agree with u regarding Vishaka, One thing u mentioned in u'r post is that Vish went as a bride to Dev's home so that her family would be saved from a huge apman, that is not at all true. She went as a bride to PB snatching away Rads' rite because she did not hav enough money to go to Mumbai and Purab had "enlightened" her on the night of the wedding that the purohits were very wealthy people , she had gone to PB so that she could take the money and realise her dreams.
She was sly and put up a false act the whole time she was in PB that of a good wife. She even mentions clearly to Purab on the phone once that she was going to take advantage of both Dev's emotions and his money.
I think Dev character here is unblemished, he tells Vish honestly that he would give her everything which she deserved as a wife except luv, but what was she doing? putting up an act to eventually dupe them all.
If Dev had given her complete rights as a husband , would she hav returned it? no, she would hav taken advantage of him.
Despite Vish's intentions being so bad, she had the audacity time and again to blame him that he had never given her the rights of a wife. How low can one stoop?

all the psots are wonderfully written. One thing I like about Vishakha is she believes in hearself and will not hesitate to state the truth regardless of any consequences. Devki would not have dared tell her-to think about her father..Radhika is spineless-she is like a weather cock who spins with wind.

I think Dev character here is unblemished, he tells Vish honestly that he would give her everything which she deserved as a wife except luv, but what was she doing? putting up an act to eventually dupe them all.
If Dev had given her complete rights as a husband , would she hav returned it? no, she would hav taken advantage of him.
Despite Vish's intentions being so bad, she had the audacity time and again to blame him that he had never given her the rights of a wife. How low can one stoop?


I disagree, as much i love DEV and watch the serial for him i totally disagree. I think having love in a marriage is way more important than anything else that you can have. In Vish's defense i am not at all saying she is a role model but just saying this that if we can like rads for everything she has done to DEV then why be so hard on Vish. I don't think she was right but i do want to say that she was in an odd situation to begin with. She knew that Dev wanted to marry her because he was in love with her and that's one thing he could not give her???
As for her act of sending Rads to the producer, One, i think she did not expect that at all and two she did want to go with her but Mrinalini convinced her against it. I don't think Vish is cunning at all I think she was just plain stupid, she doesn't take life too seriously and she is just dertmind about getting to her goal of being an actor. When rads took the blame they did show her being affected by it, she did ask Rads why was she begging to stay why she did not just walk out. Rads was never true to her either. I think talking to he sister's husband (if that is what she wanted them to be) being a part of his life was not appropriate at all.
And 'calling purab to the sactum of the purohit family'. my thoughts on that one i VIsh DID not call him, it was mrinalini that sent purabh an sms thru vish's phone and two he is her agent i don't think he is a bad person:)

I think Vish's character has spirit and that is what i like about her. I loved it in the beginning at the purohit house when She stood up against Mrin. That was ver much required. I liked today's episode. They are showing some sense and trying to put things together. Today's dialog when Rad's ask dev ' kya hamara pyar itna kamzor hai -that we can't face the truth" I hope and pray that rads will realize that she NEEDS to tell the truth to DEV to make their marriage last for 7 lives:))

Great posts everyone ... though I dont agree with some of the sentiments I can appreciate it