jugna's dialogues........translated in english....

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hey guys .....today i found a lot of posts regarding the confusing dialogues of jugnaa......i've tried to interpret it in english for people so that they can understand what he means......here it goes......
yeh rajasthan hai......yaha sookhe huye samandar par hai bare bare sehre.....
by this he is referring to the great sand dunes of rajasthan......
baloo mitti se aaj bhi nazar aati hai unki lehren....... he refers to the waves that are made on the dunes by the movement of sand.....
un lehron mein dabi hui hai ek bagawat.....ek mohabbat.....premiyo ki nishaniyaaaaabaaghi prem kahaaniyaaaa.............. now rajasthan is one of those states of india which is actually very consevative......love...affair...etc is a strict no...no.....whenever there has been love .....there has always been suppression.....if you go through the history of this place.....there have been a lot of love stories which were never finished......either the love birds were suppressed or they were killed ....no one came to know about them.....their bodies were left in the great desert.....so the desert is the lone witness of all the atrocities on lovers.....or there was a bagawat or a rebellion.....
kabhie koi aisa aata hai barso mein.......jise yeh prem kahaani dikhaayi deti hai......apni hi prem kahaani sunaayi deti hai......
from here he actually starts referring to heer....who is in love...any other person would not be able to relate to the love stories of this land other than a person who himself is deeply in love......and that is a rare case......after years ...a person who is truly in love has come to this land......who will bw able to feel the connection....the love over here.......and will be able to relate her own love with the love stories of rajasthan....
barso baad.......phir dikhayi degi.....puraani baat waapas aayegi......mohabbat khud ko dohraayegi........
here he means that after years the same intensity of love will be seen......old times will be back......(he is not referring to any pichhla janam).......he's referring to the lovers of old times who fought for their love.........
virhaaa ka rona unn kaano tak pahuchegaaa........
virhaaaa means the pain of separation in love.....the same pain which heer is going through......her cries will reach his ears.......
waqt gazab dhaayagaa.......aasmaan.....aasmaan.....zameen pe utar aayegaaa.......
time will show it's true colours......it will do something which no one had expected......the heaven will come down to meet the earth....(remember heer saying.....woh din abb door nahin jab zameen aur aasmaan ek honge...)
aur phir... aur phir....kuch aisa hoga jo pehle kabhie naa hua.....
then something will happen that has never happened before(like prem coming back from dead)
aankhon mein aansoo honge......hothon pe hassi.....ankhon ko lagega ke yeh bhram hai ......par yeh bhram naaa hogaaaa.......
she will have tears in her eyes.....(tears of happiness on seeing prem alive).....and smile on her lips.......her eyes will feel that this is an illusion......but no it's not going to be an illusion...it's going to be a reality.....(heer will not be able to believe that the prem standing infront of her is her prem.....she will take time to accept it)
aaj ka din tumhaari zindagi mein ek naya mor laayegaaa.......
today you'll turn a new chapter in your life......
rajasthan tumhaare dilo dimmag mein apni ek chhavi chhod jaayegaaaa......
rajasthan will leave a lasting impression in your mind.....something which you'll remember forever......(obviously if she gets prem back in this place she will never be able to forget the place ...right???)
rajasthan ki thhhand jism ko galaa deti hai.....toh garmi jalaaa deti hai.....dekhte hai....dekhte hai.....tumhara dard tumhe galaata hai.....ya..phir hairaan beetaaa yeh manzar....tumhe jalaata hai......
here he refers to the extreme cold of rajasthan which melts people.....and the extreme heat which burns them.....now lets see whether the pain of separation that you have is gonna melt you....(i.e. finishes you...)......or the amazing scenario that you are going to witness burns you(i.e.... kekindles a new lease of life in you...)
well thats it ..... i've tried my best... hope it helps.....

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Fatafati analysis...now I got it fulll.... I was having doubts though...now all clear...😊
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Hi Vandana,
Excellent translation & analysis! Even I agree with u 100% that he was talking about Prem's come back & its not any look alike but Prem himself! I deduced all this but my only confusion was when he was refering to the yester year love stories. I couldn't decide whether he meant some stories of star crossed lovers or Prem & Heer's love story in their previous birth (which looked a little dicey to me). Now it makes sense.
And about that rebellion somehow I have a feeling he referred to the Rampals in context to the present scenario. Even when he was saying that history will repeat itself & eyes will have tears I feel he is referring to Rampal again who will be the deterrent factor in Prem & Heer's love story. Now exactly where all this fits is left to be seen!
I definitely think its Prem but whether he remembers about Heer & him is again left for speculation here. I think I will go with the memory loss idea for now because I don't think I saw any look of recognition in his eyes when he saw Heer, it was more of a frantic stance but again will wait & watch!
But I will have to say Rekhha Modi did a goog job in holding our attention with these dialogues & even managing to confuse us! I think it was their objective to do so, so that we remain hooked to the show from now on to see what unfolds.
Again u did a marvelous job!
Lana.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: lghosh

Hi Vandana,

Excellent translation & analysis! Even I agree with u 100% that he was talking about Prem's come back & its not any look alike but Prem himself! I deduced all this but my only confusion was when he was refering to the yester year love stories. I couldn't decide whether he meant some stories of star crossed lovers or Prem & Heer's love story in their previous birth (which looked a little dicey to me). Now it makes sense.
And about that rebellion somehow I have a feeling he referred to the Rampals in context to the present scenario. Even when he was saying that history will repeat itself & eyes will have tears I feel he is referring to Rampal again who will be the deterrent factor in Prem & Heer's love story. Now exactly where all this fits is left to be seen!
I definitely think its Prem but whether he remembers about Heer & him is again left for speculation here. I think I will go with the memory loss idea for now because I don't think I saw any look of recognition in his eyes when he saw Heer, it was more of a frantic stance but again will wait & watch!
But I will have to say Rekhha Modi did a goog job in holding our attention with these dialogues & even managing to confuse us! I think it was their objective to do so, so that we remain hooked to the show from now on to see what unfolds.
Again u did a marvelous job!
Lana.

you know lana....
i don't think we will have any memory loss track.....humshakal is out of question.....if it's not the real prem....all hale and hearty then it makes no sense....the love will take time to grow....to transform into a bagawat......time.....that is what prem doesn't have after re-entry.....he needs to get heer out of rr's clutch....he needs to get his family out of this misery....and his business needs immediate attention....any other track would mean sidelining these things...something which the story demands immediate attention right now.......the creatives have always surprised us with their brilliant tracks....except for prem's death.....so lets wait and watch whats in store for us.....
btw thanx a lot for appreciating this effort....
vandana
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Posted: 16 years ago
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hey thanks for the dialogues n making them understandable
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Parth Garewal

hey thanks for the dialogues n making them understandable

you're welcome parth...... and welcome back to this forum.....
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: riks1

hi vandana!! i just got done doing my own version of the sumer singh dialogue and lana sent this to me! awesome job...so much better than my attempt!!
i totally totally think that all indication is towards Prem coming back!! I am going to jot down what I thought....


yeh rajasthan hai......yaha sookhe huye samandar par hai bare bare sehre.....
by this he is referring to the great sand dunes of rajasthan......
U r right...i thought he was referring to Heer's sookhi zindagi...

baloo mitti se aaj bhi nazar aati hai unki lehren.......
he refers to the waves that are made on the dunes by the movement of sand.....
I thought he meant that even tho Heer's life is sookhi, the waves of her love for Prem could still be seen *too far fetched??*

un lehron mein dabi hui hai ek bagawat.....ek mohabbat.....premiyo ki nishaniyaaaaabaaghi prem kahaaniyaaaa..............
now rajasthan is one of those states of india which is actually very consevative......love...affair...etc is a strict no...no.....whenever there has been love .....there has always been suppression.....if you go through the history of this place.....there have been a lot of love stories which were never finished......either the love birds were suppressed or they were killed ....no one came to know about them.....their bodies were left in the great desert.....so the desert is the lone witness of all the atrocities on lovers.....or there was a bagawat or a rebellion.....
U know, I never thought of this!! The bagawat I thought meant Prem's rebellion against death?? But after I read the next sentence, your interpretation makes more sense.

kabhie koi aisa aata hai barso mein.......jise yeh prem kahaani dikhaayi deti hai......apni hi prem kahaani sunaayi deti hai......
from here he actually starts referring to heer....who is in love...any other person would not be able to relate to the love stories of this land other than a person who himself is deeply in love......and that is a rare case......after years ...a person who is truly in love has come to this land......who will bw able to feel the connection....the love over here.......and will be able to relate her own love with the love stories of rajasthan....
Yes...absolutely right!!

barso baad.......phir dikhayi degi.....puraani baat waapas aayegi......mohabbat khud ko dohraayegi........
here he means that after years the same intensity of love will be seen......old times will be back......(he is not referring to any pichhla janam).......he's referring to the lovers of old times who fought for their love.........
Yes...true true!! No...I so totally agree. The pichla janam seemed a little too far fetched! And boy do we know Prem fought for his love. Did u see the flashback Heer had, with an intensly passionate Prem telling "kisi ne agar Heer ki taraf aankh utha kar bhi dekha to aag laga doonga, poori duniya ko aag laga doonga"
*thud* *waking up* I think that was pretty significant, no?

virhaaa ka rona unn kaano tak pahuchegaaa........
virhaaaa means the pain of separation in love.....the same pain which heer is going through......her cries will reach his ears.......
Correct...but I think it also means an emotionally barren person...like Heer referred to herself as...and yes her cries will reach him
waqt gazab dhaayagaa.......aasmaan.....aasmaan.....zameen pe utar aayegaaa.......
time will show it's true colours......it will do something which no one had expected......the heaven will come down to meet the earth....(remember heer saying.....woh din abb door nahin jab zameen aur aasmaan ek honge...)
I thought it meant that time will wreck havoc....and the one we think is in the aasmaan (aka prem) will come to earth as in come back to Heer.

aur phir... aur phir....kuch aisa hoga jo pehle kabhie naa hua.....
then something will happen that has never happened before(like prem coming back from dead)
Yes...Prem will be back!!

aankhon mein aansoo honge......hothon pe hassi.....ankhon ko lagega ke yeh bhram hai ......par yeh bhram naaa hogaaaa.......
she will have tears in her eyes.....(tears of happiness on seeing prem alive).....and smile on her lips.......her eyes will feel that this is an illusion......but no it's not going to be an illusion...it's going to be a reality.....(heer will not be able to believe that the prem standing infront of her is her prem.....she will take time to accept it)
so totally agree! Prem coming back is the only way Heer would smile and cry at the same time! although i am a little skeptical that this cud be applied to a hamshakal also.

aaj ka din tumhaari zindagi mein ek naya mor laayegaaa.......
today you'll turn a new chapter in your life......
prem coming back will do that!!

rajasthan tumhaare dilo dimmag mein apni ek chhavi chhod jaayegaaaa......
rajasthan will leave a lasting impression in your mind.....something which you'll remember forever......(obviously if she gets prem back in this place she will never be able to forget the place ...right???)
heck, even i wouldn't forget rajasthan as this is the place where prem comes back!!

rajasthan ki thhhand jism ko galaa deti hai.....toh garmi jalaaa deti hai.....dekhte hai....dekhte hai.....tumhara dard tumhe galaata hai.....ya..phir hairaan beetaaa yeh manzar....tumhe jalaata hai......
here he refers to the extreme cold of rajasthan which melts people.....and the extreme heat which burns them.....now lets see whether the pain of separation that you have is gonna melt you....(i.e. finishes you...)......or the amazing scenario that you are going to witness burns you(i.e.... kekindles a new lease of life in you...)
Hmm...I got this part wrong...galaa deti hai...i thought was to freeze...it is melt...
although i think what he says is "dekhte hain tumhara yeh dard tumhe jala ta hai (pain burns u) ya phir hairangi ka mazhar tumhare jism ko galaa ta hai (or your amazement will melt u)

Amazing post!! Thank u...
I also see u r a member of the IHP Club...greetings, one member to the other...😉



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Posted: 16 years ago
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riks thank u sooooooooooooo much!!!!!!!!😃
i was unable to understand da first lines he said......now i understood.
thanks a lot for making it easy to understand!!!
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Thanks a lot for the translation.It really helped😃
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you know lana....
i don't think we will have any memory loss track.....humshakal is out of question.....if it's not the real prem....all hale and hearty then it makes no sense....the love will take time to grow....to transform into a bagawat......time.....that is what prem doesn't have after re-entry.....he needs to get heer out of rr's clutch....he needs to get his family out of this misery....and his business needs immediate attention....any other track would mean sidelining these things...something which the story demands immediate attention right now.......the creatives have always surprised us with their brilliant tracks....except for prem's death.....so lets wait and watch whats in store for us.....
btw thanx a lot for appreciating this effort....
vandana
Hi Vandana,
I would have agreed with u 100% but the only question that stands out if Prem is Prem without any memory loss is "Where was he all this while?" We know he can't stay a moment away from Heer then how come he made her go through all that pain not to mention his mom? He can't have been lying in hospital all this while moreover even if he was how will he land up exactly in that precise location of Rajasthan to rescue Heer? How will he know she was there? So all this question poses a big threat for me if I believe he is Prem in perfect healthy condition.
But it has to be Prem, & not any look alike or plastic surgery case or else the very essence of the story will lie in error, the basis of it will be faulty. So the only other option left was that of amnesia, so I was thinking this. Moreover if u see Prem running to Heer & picking her up looks more like frantic rather than that of recognition. Or atleast it looked that way to me, maybe I am wrong. He was looking on both sides as if asking for help or looking for anyone else who might have been with her but didn't look like he recognised it was Heer.
What again catches my attention is his attire which says he is no way a native, moreover he comes running 5 miles or so to rescue Heer. I mean from afar she must have looked a speck on the sand dunes & yet he spotted her & came running to save her? He wouldn't have known it was Heer from that a distance, now would he?
I want to know what name he is introduced as & if he has any phobia for fire! We will know immidiately.
Now about his making all things right as far as Rampal & Daljeet is concerned, I think Heer will tell him everything & he will agree to help her out posing as Prem. Obviously he will do it because of his sheer attraction for her which he will feel from the very first. U know how they show, as if he knows her, he saw her before, & yet won't know where, how, why he feels like this for her.
I think I am rambling away, must be making no sense but just am speculating here, can be absolutely wrong. But just thought this might be the case.
Still am little unsure as to where & how Rampal will fit in the scenario in Sumer Singh's speech today. He referred to the yester years rebellion & the present time's pathos & I think he means Rampal in this respect. He will play the part of 'aankhon mein aansoon' for Heer & Prem.
Lets see what these BT people have in store for us. With a new creative head & 2 new directors maybe the treatment will be different along with its plots & execution.
Thanks for ur analysis though, khub bhalo likhechho!
Lana.

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