TSBTSP TRP Week 45 - Page 2

Originally posted by: .Dilwale.

Are people liking a weak Kajol though? I don’t think they are except for the scenes like durgo pujo and the confession scene, where people were really happy with Anurag standing up for her, I don’t see anyone being happy with a weak Kajol.

Otherwise, on youtube, Insta everywhere people are cursing Noina and Chondana and feeling immensely sorry for Kajol and wishing for her to become strong and fight back and for Kajol and Anurag to get married asap. Or at least their love story to start.

And another complaint I constantly see is that there are too many negative characters on the show. Like everyone else is also irritated like us.

I don’t think Nani and Priyanka are going anywhere. So it would just be a jump from one annoying duo to the other for Kajol. Hoping against hope that the makers get some sense.

Weakling Kajol is a huge bore. I loved it when she used to give back to Shreya, Arjun etc. For a moment my hope went really up during Pujo when she politely set both Priyanka and that Dida in their places- that too, not through anger but by being a voice of reason. But damn it, why can’t she use the same being the voice of reason attitude to the countless others who deserve it?
Asides countless negative characters, another issue is the lack of utilization of many others. What are Chacha Chachi even doing with their life? Why not use the siblings for some humour? Why do we see so less of someone with as much potential as Ayan

I am hoping if the Anjol wedding happens, she takes the arrogant Dida’s case

Anurag seems to be too sensitive about her- if Kajol takes her case, both Anurag and Kajol would be equal in the sense that they do the standing up when the other is emotionally unable to

Originally posted by: quickspicysauce

Weakling Kajol is a huge bore. I loved it when she used to give back to Shreya, Arjun etc. For a moment my hope went really up during Pujo when she politely set both Priyanka and that Dida in their places- that too, not through anger but by being a voice of reason. But damn it, why can’t she use the same being the voice of reason attitude to the countless others who deserve it?
Asides countless negative characters, another issue is the lack of utilization of many others. What are Chacha Chachi even doing with their life? Why not use the siblings for some humour? Why do we see so less of someone with as much potential as Ayan

I have asked the same question too from the beginning : what is the use of Chacha and Chachi in this show rather than just being there as mute spectators ??? What is their purpose in life ?? I just dont get it. Never have I seen Chacha actually calling out Chondana or Noyna for behaving like trash. Or even with the other siblings.....sorry but they are just bekaar....

This has been the problem with this show from the start or it became more obvious after Bishwanaths death.

They dont utilize the already existing characters, but they keep adding more...and in the end it seems like a khichdi of all sorts

Then we have weakling Kajol.....which is such a letdown. I mean look at the Kajol from episode 1- 28....and look at Kajol now

Remember what Anurag told her during the cremation of Bishu. Dard insaan Kamzor banata hai yah Mazboot.

Instead of becoming Mazboot she has become Kamzor 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Originally posted by: quickspicysauce

I am hoping if the Anjol wedding happens, she takes the arrogant Dida’s case

Anurag seems to be too sensitive about her- if Kajol takes her case, both Anurag and Kajol would be equal in the sense that they do the standing up when the other is emotionally unable to

It would be better if Buffoon is gone by tht time.

If Anurag is too sensitive about her, than how will he refuse if she proposes a rishta btwn him and Priyanka, becoz tht is coming for sure....

Or will Anurag marry Kajol before she is able to propose ??? And what will Anurag do if this old hag doesnt accept his rishta or marriage with Kajol ???

It’s interesting how we choose words like weakling for Kajol but sensitive for Anurag, when referring to how they can’t stand up to their respective relatives. Same acts but different words chosen for both leads. Interesting. See bias always dominates the human perspective and that’s why it’s really hard to have a balanced discussion on this forum most of the times. Every discussion somehow ends up with posts bashing her.

I am tired of all the Kajol bashing but seems like no one is bored of bashing her. Now she is being bashed for refusing Anurag when it was already clear why she would and should not say yes at this moment in time.

Originally posted by: .Dilwale.

It’s interesting how we choose words like weakling for Kajol but sensitive for Anurag, when referring to how they can’t stand up to their respective relatives. Same acts but different words chosen for both leads. Interesting. See bias always dominates the human perspective and that’s why it’s really hard to have a balanced discussion on this forum most of the times. Every discussion somehow ends up with posts bashing her.

I am tired of all the Kajol bashing but seems like no one is bored of bashing her. Now she is being bashed for refusing Anurag when it was already clear why she would and should not say yes at this moment in time.

Kajol is shown stuck in a position that actually many girls face in many parts of India but it is mostly the male child who is the favourite and the girl who is treated as second class citizen. In small towns and villages and even in big cities this dual reality still exists.

But seeing it on screen albeit less vicious as the other favoured child too is female our sensibilities are affected and we lash out at the female protagonist for not speaking up without realising that it is very difficult to take a stand against ones own family when we have been emotionally and monetarily dependent on them. The misogyny inherently ingrained in us through socialization is so subtle that we do not notice our own toxic approach.

Yes we tend to blame Kajol without realising her helplessness, for Kajol this is her Arjuna moment from Mahabharat where Krishna bhagwan had to give Arjuna, Geeta ka gyan about standing up against his kin for the right cause or dharma. I guess Anurag has to be Krishna to Kajol's Arjuna. Anurag is portrayed as more understanding than us the audience.

Your post made me think of the the Actresses round table with Rajeev Masand where Rani Mukherjee talked about how it is the women's fault for not fighting back or it is weak if a woman does not speak up when sexually harassed or assaulted without trying to understand that not every woman is privileged enough to believe that when they speak up, they will be believed and not blamed as if they asked for it. And the truth be told 90% of the time it is the woman who will face societal scorn and be shamed for telling the the truth and demanding justice.

Originally posted by: arivarshi

Kajol is shown stuck in a position that actually many girls face in many parts of India but it is mostly the male child who is the favourite and the girl who is treated as second class citizen. In small towns and villages and even in big cities this dual reality still exists.

But seeing it on screen albeit less vicious as the other favoured child too is female our sensibilities are affected and we lash out at the female protagonist for not speaking up without realising that it is very difficult to take a stand against ones own family when we have been emotionally and monetarily dependent on them. The misogyny inherently ingrained in us through socialization is so subtle that we do not notice our own toxic approach.

Yes we tend to blame Kajol without realising her helplessness, for Kajol this is her Arjuna moment from Mahabharat where Krishna bhagwan had to give Arjuna, Geeta ka gyan about standing up against his kin for the right cause or dharma. I guess Anurag has to be Krishna to Kajol's Arjuna. Anurag is portrayed as more understanding than us the audience.

Your post made me think of the the Actresses round table with Rajeev Masand where Rani Mukherjee talked about how it is the women's fault for not fighting back or it is weak if a woman does not speak up when sexually harassed or assaulted without trying to understand that not every woman is privileged enough to believe that when they speak up, they will be believed and not blamed as if they asked for it. And the truth be told 90% of the time it is the woman who will face societal scorn and be shamed for telling the the truth and demanding justice.

Very thought provoking post @dilwale and @arivarshi

Having not watched the 1st 15 episodes I am going by the written write up on colors daily updates and on this forum & the rest I have then seen myself.

I always took it to be that the story of Kajol would begin the day Vishu died & she took over the running of home and forging relationships - at least that's how Colours promotes the story.

I have seen enough of the episodes going forward to see a character breakdown and for myself I have always advocated patience as I do believe writers will still make good on her character...but what happens is that sometimes we are impatient and we want change to happen overnight...

I believe the writers are attempting to show her struggles and right now she us shown as being weak and vulnerable...I dont see her as being weak, it shows strength to go to work when she has never worked, to get back the love and respect from her mother ; and her sister; to attempt to repair relationships and forge new ones..and its not surprising she cries; she us publicly attacked, her character questioned time and time again; plus is still grieving from Vishus death, his support and love but she is moving on with life because she does not have the time or luxury to stop.

I do believe that when Kajol will fully allow Anurag's support to come through when she enters onto the next phase of their relationship we will see the strength in her emerge - its not happening at a fast pace, its a slow nuance & in the mean time the actors / actresses get ill; scenes have to be rewritten or revised

Unless the plot line completely changes then I still think that we will get the story Colours tv started with. I am for one willing to see her evolution though its slow going at times from where she is now to where she will be heading to; a woman who has a career; is capable if running a business, is able to forge & maintain relationships, is a wife, lover & partner and honours her commitments to her parental family as well as her new family - lets see what happens..right now Kajol is on the cusp of entering unchartered territory; the loss of her family and finding her strength

Originally posted by: .Dilwale.

It’s interesting how we choose words like weakling for Kajol but sensitive for Anurag, when referring to how they can’t stand up to their respective relatives. Same acts but different words chosen for both leads. Interesting. See bias always dominates the human perspective and that’s why it’s really hard to have a balanced discussion on this forum most of the times. Every discussion somehow ends up with posts bashing her.

I am tired of all the Kajol bashing but seems like no one is bored of bashing her. Now she is being bashed for refusing Anurag when it was already clear why she would and should not say yes at this moment in time.

Yeah this is right

I think people’s own internalized misogyny automatically makes us use words like weak for women but sensitive when it comes to men- at least I still use some words subconsciously before I realise the issue with how I phrase something

I also agree that Kajol as a victim of abuse should not be told off, and she does exhibit the behavior of a person who has been abused- can stand up and be bold to others but not her abusers. But the problematic part of this show is not the fact that she’s a victim, or that there are too many negative characters.
The issue is that her victimhood, her silence/acceptance of abuse as also her defending her abusers is GLORIFIED, and I saw in the latest episode, even by Anurag to some extent when he praises her lack of concern for herself and her lack of self care.