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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Angad-Kripa#1

Yes, i know. 😆Okay if you want. Yes i do. In the short amount of time i'v known you, i know quite a bit about you because of our "discussions".😆 I wouldn't say love yet either. I'd say lust maybe?? Oh! If she dies, that would be horrible. I would be pissed. My hopes of her becoming my hand maiden would be crushed!😆 I would read it no matter what. I read for SE/DE and or just Damon.

Mhmmm mmh. Not lust either.
More than that. He had followed all sorts of human traditions and customs by trying to strip Bonnie without compromising her maidenly modesty. That was exciting. Of course, he'd seen her body anyway; there had been no way to avoid that. But it was really more thrilling when he was trying to follow the rules. He'd never done that before.

If it was lust, he would have done it without following the rules, without modesty. Stefan even mentions his suprise that he hasn't molested her. She needed the blood, he could have done so if he was lusting after her.
I would hate for her to die too. Anyone to die. I've grown to like all the characters, I may not agree with everything they do, but I do enjoy reading about them. LOL, little Katherine you, tehe. Oh I never said I wasn't going to read. I mean why read 6 books if you don't plan to read the last one? I'm not sure I want to buy it. I only own the first 4. 5 and 6 I borrowed from the library.


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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: dhruvi.

Mhmmm mmh. Not lust either.
More than that. He had followed all sorts of human traditions and customs by trying to strip Bonnie without compromising her maidenly modesty. That was exciting. Of course, he'd seen her body anyway; there had been no way to avoid that. But it was really more thrilling when he was trying to follow the rules. He'd never done that before.

If it was lust, he would have done it without following the rules, without modesty. Stefan even mentions his suprise that he hasn't molested her. She needed the blood, he could have done so if he was lusting after her.
I would hate for her to die too. Anyone to die. I've grown to like all the characters, I may not agree with everything they do, but I do enjoy reading about them. LOL, little Katherine you, tehe. Oh I never said I wasn't going to read. I mean why read 6 books if you don't plan to read the last one? I'm not sure I want to buy it. I only own the first 4. 5 and 6 I borrowed from the library.

Oh well.....huh... Well i don't know what to call it! I guess....understanding?? I have too. I would be upset if anyone died. I can't help myself Bonnie, i'm just so amazing and expect everyone to do what i want them to.
Ohh okay yeah. I own the first 6. I might buy Midnight....😕
-dhruvi thumbnail
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Posted: 15 years ago

More than understanding I would say. He deff cares on a deep level, doesn't ness have to be love.

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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: tithi21



We have similar taste.Between who is that boy in your avatar.

I really wish that Damon starts to call Matt as Mutt in the show like the books.

Lead singer of All American Rejects.... tyson hot isnt he????
Wow!!! what a discussion went down...i dont really have a big taste for couples in the books besides SE and i would love de or db but not mb yuck!!!!
-dhruvi thumbnail
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Posted: 15 years ago
^he's hot, he looks like Ian. Speaking of which I desperately needed a new avi, so I found this beaut. I'm back to drooling over Smolderhalder<3
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Posted: 15 years ago

@dhruvi...as much i dont want to get into the whole quoting thing especialy since this seems to be a topic that has been discussed much, but i feel i have to state WHY I think Damon feels protective of Bonnie because shes Elenas friend, one who is unlike Matt or Meredith.

"He opened his eyes again in annoyance. Now things were getting loud down there. Humans yelling. Why? What was the point? The rabbit always squeals in the jaws of the fox, but when has another rabbit ever rushed up to save it?
There, a new proverb,and proof that humans are as stupid as rabbits, he thought, but his mood was ruined. His mind slid away from the fact, but it wasn't just the noise below that was disturbing him. Milk and honey, that had been'a mistake. Thinking about that had been a blunder. Elena's skin had been like milk that night a week ago, warm-white, not cool, even in the moonlight. Her bright hair in shadow had been like spilled honey. Elena wouldn't be happy to see the results of this night's pack hunting. She would cry tears like crystal dewdrops, and they would smell like salt."
Result of the Night packs hunting=The outcome of Matt, Mere, and Bonnie. He wants to ignore their plea for help but can't because he knows Elena won't like the outcome.
Furthermore, Meredith says to bonnie that Damon's never wanted us dead because he knows it won't help him with Elena. So we know now that Damon has an interest in saving the friends because they are very close to Elena, and they're basically his ticket to her. And Meredith is saying this ONLY because she knows Damon is listening to her and she also stops Matt from saying ANYTHING that would upset Damon and prevent him from helping them, although it doesnt work because he hears everything from the tree. lol He then looks at the three of them and decides to save Bonnie "...But he was going to save this one. Because it was his whim. Because she had called for his help so piteously."

He then brings her to do the boarding house and Stefan assumes Damon has hurt her, "Normally, Damon was always up for a fight, but right now he could almost hear Elena's weeping over her human friends, and something inside him felt tired. Very old'centuries old'and very tired"

Before putting bonnie is the bathtub, damons brain is shooting questions as to how he should help her and if he should ask Elena for help in case someone thinks otherwise, and then he catches Elenas eyes and all the questions disappear because he heard Elena say "please, help her."
And then, Damon is upset at the maloch because it tried to hurt 'his humans' and then it dawns on him that he has started to consider them 'his.' "Slowly, inside, Damon could feel something growing. It had sparked when he thought of the audacity of the malach, hunting his humans right under his nose. It didn't ask the question of when the group in the car had become his humans—he supposed it was because they had been so close lately that it seemed they were his to dispose of, to say whether they lived or died, or whether they became what he was."
"Bonnie had called for his help for nearly half an hour before succumbing to the darkness.
That was what needed to be said. Needed to be examined. Bonnie had called for Stefan—who had been too far away and too busy with his angel—but she had called for Damon, too, and she had pleaded for his help. And he had ignored it.
With three of Elena's friends at his feet, he had ignored their agonies, had ignored Bonnie's frenzied pleas not to let them die." Damon feels joy and pride that Bonnie called him also, and not just Stefan. he felt they finally accepted him for who he was and not just Stefans evil brother. And he saves bonnie because she wasn't overly judgemental like meredith and matt.
And the joy he feels after saving her is simply because he saved her and not Stefan. Damon saw a different side to himself, one that was actually helping a human and not slurping from one. He calls Bonnie his bird. "When Bonnie said, "But I'm alive!" with an abrupt 180-degree turn in mood, her heart-shaped face flushing suddenly with joy, the fierce pride Damon felt in response was intoxicating. He and he alone had brought her back from the edge of icy death."
I dont see anything here that would indicate that he had feelings for bonnie other than protecting her either as someone who was vulnerable and perhaps a friend, or as Elenas friend. My conclusion is that Damon CARES for Bonnie. I'll even go as far as saying that MAYBE he even likes her, but its nowhere near love, or what he feels for Elena. Elena is his driving force.
ANd plus, how are we to know that Bonnie even likes Damon?? Bonnie has pretty much flirted with everyone! Shes even had thoughts about Stefan on various occassions.

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Posted: 15 years ago
I know he helps Bonnie because she's Elena's friend. But I was just pointing out that, that's not all his motives with her. But you do seem to have supportive explanations, so could you explain these for me then:
- LJS (the author) writting After Hours (where there is a kiss involved and he does think of her in a minor explicit way), and in Blood Will Tell the DB reference.
-the summary for Damon's character it is clearly written (quote from it): "His history dates back to Renaissance Italy. He shows feelings towards both Elena and Bonnie, though Elena receives more attention."
"...Yet he hadn't thought of her [Elena] in minutes. It might even be a record of Elena-overlooking."
If he didn't have feelings for Bonnie and only for Elena he wouldn't have overlooked her. Had I been put in that situtation, had I loved Damon and I was saving Stefan, I wouldn't be thinking dizzily about Stefan, I would be thinking, 'Lord, what if this was Damon. He was the one in my arms almost naked in front of me. Nothing but me and his gorgeous body' sure I can admire Stefan's body too, but I would never think of him dizzily if I loved Damon only, like your saying he loves Elena only. While your saying he's in love Elena, that may be true, I never said he's in love with Bonnie. He does care and love her, which is still different than in love. She makes him feel like her saviour while with Elena he constantly has to prove her than he loves her more than Stefan, that he's the better choice for her.
Same with Bonnie. She loves him, but she's not in love with him. He's always there for her when she needs him. He makes her feel like she can do anything, and treats her good, unlike everyone who waves her off as a child. Yes, he calls her her baby bird, but that's saying it in a proud way rather than condescending unlike the others. And yes she's flirted with plently. But what teenage girl hasn't? & at least she's not claiming Matt as her soulmate while kissing Damon secretly. I'm not saying this to degrade Elena, she can be confused with two guys I'm perfectly fine. I get that, its a hard choice, I would have a tough time too. But please don't label one your soulmate if your confused. Say you love them both. Soulmate means you realize he's your one and only.
As for Bonnie 'flirting' with Stefan. She does that because:
D: "So you made Stefan take your blood," he said, "but I'm still just a poor outsider, forced to stalk you for your own good." but when Elena tells him not to, he makes an excuse to make himself look like he didn't do just because he isn't allowed to:
D: "You're still a baby, baby," he told Bonnie lightly
So, later, when she's giving Stefan blood:
B: I made you happy, then.
S: Can you have any doubt? This is what it can be when two . . . well, I won't say lovers because we aren't, not in the conventional sense. But this is what it can be when there's no fear, only love.
B: And--you don't think I'm just a little girl?
S: If I'd thought that you'd never have gotten your sweater off. You're a woman, even if you're still a girl. Some girls are. And some women of fifty are still girls.
B: She sighed and lapsed back. "I'm glad," she whispered. "And you be sure that Damon know it, too."
Edited by dhruvi. - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: dhruvi.

More than understanding I would say. He deff cares on a deep level, doesn't ness have to be love.

What exactly do you call it then? 😡😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
Dhruvi,

I like DE in the books . I would not be hypocritical here and frankly saying because I hate Stefan in the books.( no offense to stefan fans) but I would never deny that SE have the awesome journey and are meant to be in the books.( I know it's really hard to admit as a DE fan).

Now for DB, I know Lj. herself said in an interview about the bath-tub scene that it was not Damon's whim, Damon just pretends it before Stefan and he is someone who always denies his emotion . If in Midnight Damon ends up with Bonnie( like Jot said) , I will except it but Lj must have to make it believable otherwise it would be like Twilight where Jacob suddenly forgot Bella and go for Renesmee.

About the quote of Nightfall, I kind of agree with you about the connection of DB.

Edited by tithi21 - 15 years ago
-dhruvi thumbnail
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Posted: 15 years ago

Haha, I told you, I call it potential. They deff mean something important to each other. They just have to realize it. That's how I see DB ending. They realize how much they mean to each other and they are trying out what they can be. I don't need them to say I love you. I can envision it happen sometime later in the future. And that's all I want from them in the books.

o0o0o0o Tithi, I agree. & wow, she did? I never read the article. But as far as believeable DB ending, read my explanation above to Jot. That's all I want. I find that reasonable couple-wise, don't you?
Mhhhm, don't get me started on Jake/Nessie, eck. I would never compare any of Twilight couples to TVD ones. Bella doesn't deserve Jake, I would never say Elena doesn't deserve Damon though.

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