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Posted: 9 years ago
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Kunj does not need to be perfect, he is human and so can be human and flawed. He would never have dared raise his hand against his mother, father, older brother or bhabhi, had anyone of them been in Twinkle's shoes. He misunderstood, misspoke, yes all that is forgivable with an apology or regret, raising his hand against his wife like she is some property or child, is not okay and he needs to redeem himself. Showing that a man, a husband can manhandle his wife even if he is full of regret later on, is plain wrong in my opinion.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Now I am not in a mood to say anything as people r forcefully trying to justify kunj for what he has done from past days all because he has done so much for twink really parents take care of children and do alot for them doesn't even then give them right or justified if they destroy children life or do something which is not right leave parent even law or anything doesn't give the right on our body that is sucide we can't even do sucide with yourself even we have no right on ourselves then anybody else how it is justified
Kunj is right because he is a human being and his weakness is is family he can't see his family in tears or any problem even now uv is included in it but twink is other to him ya he is right in saying twink is not his family as he has not done this marriage by his will he was forced to do he has done this marriage for his family
Ya kunj is right to let uv be with her alone or keeping the farmhouse truth within himself as his wife would know then she will not tolerate uv after knowing the past he is right as he is on guilt trip and he can't see tears in mother eye and he is very nice human being
Kunj is right to slap his wife as the situation was like that
Kunj is right to see standing behind when his tai is slapping and he is right also after seeing her bebe slapping for wrong thing because he has no other option and he love his his family is his weakness
Everything is tolerable I can tolerate it but two thing which made me forced to not like kunj anyone give how much reason but as a girl I will never justify his now e action
1)slap on the second moment without listening anything because no husband has right to slap his wife situation would be anything
2)making a potential rapist sleep sit eat and doing malham pattin and moreover hiding such a big truth after knowing taking it lightly
3)telling ur wife that u will break relation and make her out of house it clear one thing that a woman after marriage have no permanent home
Leela was only mother in this show who was something but no she has also been destroyed
All the character is destroyed only twink is left who is also on the way of destruction of becoming a doormat for today I am also giving a benefit if doubt to twink but if she will take this lightly then I can say she is also destroyed as for today it is no time to get angry on him
Kunj totally lack trust how can he even think twink would beat uv
There is a boundary of distrust but he has crossed all boundary by becoming dumbest
All I can say that they justify action they like twinj scene thanks god I am not that much fan that I would watch sajna ve moments without some justification of character or relation
I am not trying to hurt anybody I don't tolerate any kind of such doormat bahu beti as a teenager I am not any saaas or bahu that would appreciate those thing
Edited by UMAT - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Kunj does not need to be perfect, he is human and so can be human and flawed. He would never have dared raise his hand against his mother, father, older brother or bhabhi, had anyone of them been in Twinkle's shoes. He misunderstood, misspoke, yes all that is forgivable with an apology or regret, raising his hand against his wife like she is some property or child, is not okay and he needs to redeem himself. Showing that a man, a husband can manhandle his wife even if he is full of regret later on, is plain wrong in my opinion.


I second you.My thoughts r also same .Even he would not have raised his hand on Yuvi if he pushed Bebe n acted like kid.Agree raising hand on his wife is so bad on Kunj part.If regret also .I will not buy it so soon.Hindi soaps Hero's manhandle heroines n slap them.They easily get away with a regret n apology.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: UMAT

Now I am not in a mood to say anything as people r forcefully trying to justify kunj for what he has done from past days all because he has done so much for twink really parents take care of children and do alot for them doesn't even then give them right or justified if they destroy children life or do something which is not right leave parent even law or anything doesn't give the right on our body that is sucide we can't even do sucide with yourself even we have no right on ourselves then anybody else how it is justified

Kunj is right because he is a human being and his weakness is is family he can't see his family in tears or any problem even now uv is included in it but twink is other to him ya he is right in saying twink is not his family as he has not done this marriage by his will he was forced to do he has done this marriage for his family
Ya kunj is right to let uv be with her alone or keeping the farmhouse truth within himself as his wife would know then she will not tolerate uv after knowing the past he is right as he is on guilt trip and he can't see tears in mother eye and he is very nice human being
Kunj is right to slap his wife as the situation was like that
Kunj is right to see standing behind when his tai is slapping and he is right also after seeing her bebe slapping for wrong thing because he has no other option and he love his his family is his weakness
Everything is tolerable I can tolerate it but two thing which made me forced to not like kunj anyone give how much reason but as a girl I will never justify his now e action
1)slap on the second moment without listening anything because no husband has right to slap his wife situation would be anything
2)making a potential rapist sleep sit eat and doing malham pattin and moreover hiding such a big truth after knowing taking it lightly
3)telling ur wife that u will break relation and make her out of house it clear one thing that a woman after marriage have no permanent home
Leela was only mother in this show who was something but no she has also been destroyed
All the character is destroyed only twink is left who is also on the way of destruction of becoming a doormat for today I am also giving a benefit if doubt to twink but if she will take this lightly then I can say she is also destroyed as for today it is no time to get angry on him
Kunj totally lack trust how can he even think twink would beat uv
There is a boundary of distrust but he has crossed all boundary by becoming dumbest
All I can say that they justify action they like twinj scene thanks god I am not that much fan that I would watch sajna ve moments without some justification of character or relation
I am not trying to hurt anybody I don't tolerate any kind of such doormat bahu beti as a teenager I am not any saaas or bahu that would appreciate those thing


@Bold - You have echoed my thought.No justifictaion in their character or relation.Will not make me connect to Twinj.

I am waiting to see how Twinkle will react.

Then many people can justify Yuvi also.If we think as a netural viewer not a Kunj N Twinj fan.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I agree every human is not perfect.But if the slap was also part of the plan then I don't support it.If U have seen the epi from start.CV's mad Kunj mouth some heavy duty dialogue.When he saw his dad raise hand on her mom.He said to his mom that he will never ever do those things.Whenever he sees UV hold Twinkle so hardly.He gives lecture to Yuvraj reg how should we treat women n respect them.After seeing Kunj mouthing these dialogues n cut to the scene were he slapped Twinkle.Made Kunj look like a hypocrite.

The base of every marriage is love n trust.If there is no love n trust then there is no use of marriage.Twinkle showed the trust in yest epi.In-spite of the fact she thinks he was the one who tried to molest her.Kunj need to show it.If he does not regret for what he did n Twinkle like adarash wife if she so happy being get slapped by her hubby.Then Twinj r no diff couple.They r like typical soap couple.Then I could not connect to them.

If we can justify or give benefit of doubt.Because of impulsive nature.Then we should not also blame the way Yuvi behaved the with Twinkle.He was impulsive that he might loose Twinkle.So he behaved rudely with her n in that impulsiveness he tried to kill Kunj.Also tried to spoil her image.You never know CV's can show something diff reg farmhouse incident.

If we can justify any thing as by saying he did it by his impulsive nature.Then many crimes happen become of impulsive nature.I have seen a ad reg domestic violence.In that video they said.If first time itself if ur husband slaps you.Then show him that they will not take the slap n revolt against it.If first time itself wife don't revolt.Then husband's can think.That is wife is ok with the slap.Then this can slowly become a case of domestic violence.CV's r giving wrong msg by making Twinkle not react to the slap.CV's should make Twinkle react to the slap.If Leela don't suppourt Twinkle.Then Twinkle should leave Amristar n go to some other city.

Kunj is behaving like soap bahu in UV case.Being so good to the person who in past did many crimes.Also force his wife to apply blam to him.When comes to Twinkle only he is flawed shout at her for his family.Always says family is imp.


I badly want separation track n also Kunj should regret for slapping Twinkle.Also he should think Twinkle is imp for him or not.
Edited by VIMAL.M - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Kunj does not need to be perfect, he is human and so can be human and flawed. He would never have dared raise his hand against his mother, father, older brother or bhabhi, had anyone of them been in Twinkle's shoes. He misunderstood, misspoke, yes all that is forgivable with an apology or regret, raising his hand against his wife like she is some property or child, is not okay and he needs to redeem himself. Showing that a man, a husband can manhandle his wife even if he is full of regret later on, is plain wrong in my opinion.



I'll just start with 'To each their own'. But do you really think Kunj needs to redeem himself? Coz them if a slap needs redemption, what do you think things like Trying to murder someone or rape someone needs? Death? I agree. But if things like slap need redemption, major things will always should be punished by death sentence and that will surely lead to end of male population.

Kunj wouldnt have slapped Twinkle if she wasn't so adamant on exposing Yuvi even in that time of panic, but that DOES NOT MEAN that Kunj had any right to raise his hand at Twinkle. But even after Bebe was on the floor withering in pain, all Twinkle was telling was about exposing Yuvi, which angered Kunj.

Like I said Kunj is a human and has flaws, and in anger he slapped Twinkle which is completely inhumane, but that does not mean that they should separate their ways, infact they should work it out TOGETHER.

You didn't see Kunj leaving Twinkle when she didn't trust him when he repeatedly told her that he didn't force himself on her, where were these thoughts about separation then? Coz its only fair to treat Kunj equally. Kunj, even though not guilty, was with Twinkle through thick and thin and now that there's a bad phase in his life, fingers are being raised upon him.

What Kunj did wasn't wrong, and I'm not going to justify anything and everything he does, but I think he needs to regret rather than reincarnate himself.

P.S : Entirely My POV.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Kunj asked Twinkle what were you doing.That time only she said reg Yuvi.She just answered Kunj question.If here answer irritated him.That does not give him right to raise hand on Twinkle.
During farmhouse MU if CV's separated Twinj.Seriously I would have not had any issue.At that time they were not married.There was no bond.So Twinkle MU'ed him.But Twinkle was herself not sure if Kunj can do it.CV's showed her conflicts in her thoughts.Remember the epi were Yuvi kidnaps Twinkle. .Kunj comes to save her.Twinkle hugged Kunj.That one hug proved Twinkle feel safe with Kunj.In car also she had conflicts in her thoughts.She thought Kunj was the person who always saved her from danger.Then how can he do it.How can I ignore what my eyes saw.Then Twinj marriage happened.Twinkle has shown the trust on Kunj.In-spite of the fact she thinks he tried to molest her.He always felt safe with him.She once said reg farmhouse after the Kunj kidnapping track.At that time Kunj did not want to say about the whole truth.He cared for Yuvi more then is reputation n more than his marriage.Yest also after him slapping Twinkle.Yet Twinkle supported Kunj.Twinkle did not ask proof like he asked to Twinkle reg UV also Twinkle did not come to conclusion based on allegation that Kunj can planned to kill bebe.Like how Kunj easily believed Surjeet accusation of Twinkle beating Yuvi.Twinkle has always showed trust in Kunj.Which Kunj failed to do.He supports her in front of other n in room he takes U-turn.He just see Twinkle as responsibility.Twinkle character grown.Now it's time for Kunj character to grow n trust his wife.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I agree every human is not perfect.But if the slap was also part of the plan then I don't support it.If U have seen the epi from start.CV's mad Kunj mouth some heavy duty dialogue.When he saw his dad raise hand on her mom.He said to his mom that he will never ever do those things.Whenever he sees UV hold Twinkle so hardly.He gives lecture to Yuvraj reg how should we treat women n respect them.After seeing Kunj mouthing these dialogues n cut to the scene were he slapped Twinkle.Made Kunj look like a hypocrite. I'm glad that you agree that human aren't supposed to be perfect, because that's what Kunj is - a mere human with emotions. You actually never know what the CV's might bring as a plot twist. Like you've mentioned Kunj making some heavy duty dialogues, in that matter I'd like to tell that Kunj is against men being aggressive towards women and he has time and again stood against it. Now I'll tell you the difference between Manohar, Yuvi and Kunj. Manohar and Yuvi were aggressive because of THEIR OWN INCOMPETENCIES. They were aggressive and took out their anger on Usha and Twinkle respectively, in a way treating them as their punching bag. Whereas Kunj (I don't even want to compare hik with stupid and irrational people like Manohar and Yuvi), he slapped Twinkle beacuse Twinkle wouldn't stop telling 'I wanted to expose Yuvi' even when bebe was in a lot of pain on the floor and that triggered Kunj's anger. I'm NOT telling that Kunj slapping was correct in any way, but what he did was not intentional, he manifested his panic on Twinkle which is completely inhumane.



The base of every marriage is love n trust.If there is no love n trust then there is no use of marriage.Twinkle showed the trust in yest epi.In-spite of the fact she thinks he was the one who tried to molest her.Kunj need to show it.If he does not regret for what he did n Twinkle like adarash wife if she so happy being get slapped by her hubby.Then Twinj r no diff couple.They r like typical soap couple.Then I could not connect to them. you answered you own question. Twinkle and Kunj both trust each other but in certain unclear matters they don't. Twinkle doesn't tryst Kunj completely otherwise there wouldn't be any need for you to mention that even Twinkle thinking Kunj tried to molest her, she trusted him. If she really trusts him completely why did she not believe when he said that he didn't try to molest her?


If we can justify or give benefit of doubt.Because of impulsive nature.Then we should not also blame the way Yuvi behaved the with Twinkle.He was impulsive that he might loose Twinkle.So he behaved rudely with her n in that impulsiveness he tried to kill Kunj.Also tried to spoil her image.You never know CV's can show something diff reg farmhouse incident. There's a difference between being impulsive in a situation and being psychotic which Yuvi is. What Yuvi did isn't impulsive at all, he PLANNED it all. And planning does not mean being impulsive. Trying to kill someone can never be impulsive. Trying to molest someone and mislead them to believe someone else did it isn't impulsive.

If we can justify any thing as by saying he did it by his impulsive nature.Then many crimes happen become of impulsive nature.I have seen a ad reg domestic violence.In that video they said.If first time itself if ur husband slaps you.Then show him that they will not take the slap n revolt against it.If first time itself wife don't revolt.Then husband's can think.That is wife is ok with the slap.Then this can slowly become a case of domestic violence.CV's r giving wrong msg by making Twinkle not react to the slap.CV's should make Twinkle react to the slap.If Leela don't suppourt Twinkle.Then Twinkle should leave Amristar n go to some other city. I NEVER JUSTIFIED KUNJ SLAPPING Twinkle AS HIS IMPULSIVE NATURE AT ALL. But what you said is absolutely right about letting the husband knoe that it's not OK to raise hands on them. But that is when the husband with the intention of hurting hits his wife. What Kunj did was in the moment which is wrong, but he will never hurt Twinkle. He protects her even if his life is at risk. And Twinkle knows that. She knows that Kunj didn't raise his hand with the intention of hurting her, but again he did wrong by slapping her. And about Twinkle leaving Amritsar, why do you think she should leave her home town? If that's the logic, Kunj should have gone abroad when Twinkle didn't trust him. Did he?

Kunj is behaving like soap bahu in UV case.Being so good to the person who in past did many crimes.Also force his wife to apply blam to him.When comes to Twinkle only he is flawed shout at her for his family.Always says family is imp. This point has been raised quite a lot of times, Kunj is doing whatever he's doing because of his guilt. That's the difference, we all see Yuvi as the same person when he's not, according to everyone except Twinkle, Yuvi is a five year old kid. Even the court of law asks proof, which Twinkle doesn't have. He did exactly what he says, he is giving his family importance by telling Twinkle to stop with the 'expose Yuvi' thing, because that very thing is causing riots in the family.


I badly want separation track n also Kunj should regret for slapping Twinkle.Also he should think Twinkle is imp for him or not. I don't agree with this, a seperation track isn't necessary, it'll just prolong the track even more. Kunj will regrt slapping Twinkle and will hopefully apologise. But to end this with, I want Twinkle to regret not trusting Kunj as well.

Entirely my POV
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: VIMAL.M

Kunj asked Twinkle what were you doing.That time only she said reg Yuvi.She just answered Kunj question.If here answer irritated him.That does not give him right to raise hand on Twinkle.

During farmhouse MU if CV's separated Twinj.Seriously I would have not had any issue.At that time they were not married.There was no bond.So Twinkle MU'ed him.But Twinkle was herself not sure if Kunj can do it.CV's showed her conflicts in her thoughts.Remember the epi were Yuvi kidnaps Twinkle. .Kunj comes to save her.Twinkle hugged Kunj.That one hug proved Twinkle feel safe with Kunj.In car also she had conflicts in her thoughts.She thought Kunj was the person who always saved her from danger.Then how can he do it.How can I ignore what my eyes saw.Then Twinj marriage happened.Twinkle has shown the trust on Kunj.In-spite of the fact she thinks he tried to molest her.He always felt safe with him.She once said reg farmhouse after the Kunj kidnapping track.At that time Kunj did not want to say about the whole truth.He cared for Yuvi more then is reputation n more than his marriage.Yest also after him slapping Twinkle.Yet Twinkle supported Kunj.Twinkle did not ask proof like he asked to Twinkle reg UV also Twinkle did not come to conclusion based on allegation that Kunj can planned to kill bebe.Like how Kunj easily believed Surjeet accusation of Twinkle beating Yuvi.Twinkle has always showed trust in Kunj.Which Kunj failed to do.He supports her in front of other n in room he takes U-turn.He just see Twinkle as responsibility.Twinkle character grown.Now it's time for Kunj character to grow n trust his wife.



@Bold : why is that Inspite being added over there? I mean if Twinkle trusted Kunj whole heartedly, she should have foregone what she saw and thought rather than being conflicted. And just like you said, Twinkle saw what Kunj did to her, in a similar way Kunj didn't see what Yuvi is doing. Twinkle accepted what she saw and Kunj accepts what he didn't see. Did Kunj actually agree with Surjeet saying 'Ji tayaji, aap Sahi bol rahe hai, Twinkle ne hi Yuvi ko marra hai...'?

I see that as a greatness you know. I mean supporting her in front of others and talking out the difference in the room personally. I mean though he has a problem, Kunj never lets it out in the open and supports her even though he doesn't think she's right. I see that as his best quality. That is not ruining his wife's image in public.

Twinkle's character has grown, no doubt but it still has to mature more. Same goes for Kunj, but I'd like to end this with saying Kunj trusts Twinkle in all the situations but with the Yuvi thing going on he needs proof which is not his fault.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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When there is trust you no need proof.Which is what I believe.I added the word in-spite because if Twinkle can think Kunj could do what he tried to do her in farm house.So he could have done planning to kill Bebe.But she did not do it.Also she did not ask for proof.She herself trying to find proof.But Kunj failed to do the same.He could have at least tried to find UV's truth.
I want Twinkle to go out of Amristar.Just have peace of mind.The old bubbly n lively Twinkle is lost.She need some time alone.From all the drama.

CV's showed Twinkle's conflicting thoughts.Which CV's failed it do in Kunj's case.They even made Twinkle miss Kunj.CV's could have shown Kunj conflicting thought reg Twinkle n believing her.When you question yourself the only you will find out what you actually think or want do.

But slapping her in front of all.Also accusing her of beating Yuvi.Kunj has let down Twinkle.

Twinkle has forgone the farmhouse incident.If not she would not have hugged him n feel safe when she is with him.Action speak louder than words. Twinkle actions show she trust Kunj.Were as Kunj action shows he don't trust her n he see Twinkle just as his responsibility.

This non-continuity in Kunj behavior.Not making me to connect with him.Make look Kunj has two face one for family n one for Twinkle.In front of family he support her.Alone he don't trust her.This make Kunj character look like he don't have any clear thoughts.

When Surjeet said the word which UV said I will not complaint.complaint. Kunj had FB of that scene n came to conclusion that Twinkle beaten UV.In a way he agreed to what Surjeet said.Because he scolded Twinkle.

Seriously Kunj did not see what Yuvi.Two times he tried to mureder him,planned to trap him in rape case,tried to rape Twinkle.After seeing all this n he genuinely believes Yuvi is not acting.Then I don't know what to say.Even in my sense I would not allow the man who once tried to rape my wife near her.Even if he is mentally sick n will also not force her to apply balm to him.I would have sent him to Mental Asylum.This move of Kunj to bring Yuvi to Sarna house.Looked like he don't care for Twinkle.He just want to get rid of his guilt.

Also recently only Yuvi revealed his true identity in front Twinkle.Yet Twinkle from start knew Yuvi was acting.You don't need to see things with your own eyes.Some time think logically you can see things which r hidden.Which Kunj failed do.

He can see in Yuvi's eyes that he is not acting.But can't see in Twinkle's eyes that she is speaking truth.For Kunj his family is imp than Twinkle n also getting rid of his guilt is more imp.
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