Everything just cannot be stagnant! My take on SwaSan

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Posted: 8 years ago
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So this is what I feel and you can definitely disagree to this. Just be mature about this. There is no need to abuse any characters in my post! And if you are planning to, please just stay away. Its a request!

There are certain things that have been out of character and OTT in this particular track but still there are few things I really wanted to point out and hence writing this. I think, its expectations for SwaSan that brought them in the condition that they are in today. Until now, whatever fights or mission they took, either working alone on it or not, they have had some POV. They agreed with each other to almost everything and even if they disagreed, the other was open enough to understand if not support the disagreement. And this was for the first time that their approach towards this situation was totally different. Like majority of us wanted, Sanskaar wanted to end his relationship with that family and wanted to move on. It was his stand for his and his family self respect. But Swara didnt agree to it. She is someone who will keep putting her self respect at stake if she thinks she is on the right path. And breaking off his kasam was the wrong step according to us and Sanskaar. But for Swara, its not new. Again, if she thinks she is on the right path, no kasam can stop her. She did the same thing in Kavya track. She broke off Shek's kasam, kept in touch with Sanskaar secretively even when Shek didnt want her to do so. So it wasnt a new thing for her but for us it was since we didnt support her step to support her sister who took her for granted time and again and not Sanskaar, who were each others support since long. What missed out here was COMMUNICATION. Swara didnt try to explain Sanskaar. She assumed once things will be ok, Sanskaar will be ok and even if he is angry at her, at least he will be happy that misunderstandings got resolved. But before that could happen, her truth came in front of him. He was hurt, in pain. He didnt expect her to go against his wish. And like most of us were, he got rightfully angry at her. But what he said in his anger didnt go well with me atleast and maybe with Swara as well. When he said "he will break their relationship no matter what happens", even in his rightful anger, atleast annoyed me. You dont have to agree its ok. I just felt that way. Yes, I know the guy was emotionally frustrated and you cannot expect him to think and say. I understand. And I think Swara, who usually never takes things personally, took this one because never in her wildest dreams she EXPECTED Sanskaar to say that. Like Sanskaar in his wildest dreams never EXPECTED Swara to go against his kasam. If Sanskaar has a right to stand up for what he feels, Swara does too. If Swara expects Sanskaar to understand her stand, she should understand his stand too. And when would that have happened? If they communicated. They both didnt. Communication is a soul of SwaSan's relationship and thats what went missing this time. Even after everything was ok, one week went by. We dont know what really happened but what I am assuming is, the distance that miscommunication created increased in this one week. As much as we know SwaSan, they are someone who communicates and sorts things out as well. We are yet to see but even before the one week, we saw Swara angry at Sanskaar for saying that thing. And I think the frustration within her increased regarding that because it didnt get sorted. I dont know if anyone approached or not. Sanskaar did or not. But during that confrontation drama, it looked like, they didnt talk about this or anything in general. My assumption again. And the frustration within her came out in the form of her blaming him for Laksh going missing. Sanskaar himself realized that Swara was upset with him for what he said to her that day and he tried to ask for chance of explanation. But at that point, Swara was just not Swara. She didnt listen and just left. And that broke Sanskaar's and our (atleast majority of us) expectation of Swara giving second chances to people. Because she always has and today she didnt. Why? The distance and the miscommunication. When Swara told Sanskaar, what he is trying to do today, was the same thing she was trying to do and he didnt understand her. She was in a way right when she said it. Again, expectation and them first time not being on the same page. And I think for this miscommunication, both are responsible. Swara is responsible more for sure. And Sanskaar cannot take the fact and decides to give her a final ultimatum to never accept her again in his life no matter what happens, making us happy. Because finally he stood up for himself. But that made Swara even more angry. Because she expected him to understand what hurt her and he again said the same thing, without understanding her. She was wrong to expect. But she wanted him to understand what he is saying right now is something he already said before and has hurt her. She wants him to understand but doesnt want to understand him. He knows she is upset with him for what he said but expects her to understand his warning as a chance that he is looking for. Again, miscommunication. And she leaves. 6 months passed by. We dont know what happened in between them. But we are seeing Sanskaar almost destroying himself. He is normal with everyone but himself and Swara. And that is making us think that how the hell is Swara letting Sanskaar destroy himself and then is ready to accept any punishment Sanskaar gives her the moment he brings Laksh back? It still feels like she blames him yet she knows she is wrong. Quite confusing. If there is no reason, the only thing I can think of is that Swara knows she is wrong and she has crossed her line and she will have to pay for her mistake she did and hence is ready to accept it. And even Sanskaar has gone in his dark world. And even though he knows, I think he has started blaming himself for Laksh's missing and his using his power to bring him back. But that power is more overpowered with his anger and revenge towards Swara. He wants to punish her at any cost and hence he wants to do that. But he is being normal with everyone else. He is also trying to talk and pacify AP who is actually giving him cold shoulders. He actually shouldn't be doing so for AP. That lady felt nothing when Sanskaar was assumed dead for 5 years and both of her sons are responsible for whatever is happening today and still she is behaving as if Sanskaar is responsible. Sanskaar shouldn't give two hoots to her but he still is.

I think what I am trying to convey is when things are being stagnant, like SwaSan's support for each other or their similar pov, one difference can create problems, especially if that difference is big. And thats how it is being shown for SwaSan. During the malkin track, we knew how Swara was treated. She deserved that. But after one point, we did feel Sanskaar was going little over board. We all felt he was acting, but he wasnt. He was made that way for us to have sympathy for Swara. And similarly, when Sanskaar said, their relation ship is over, it looked weird. And CVs made us sympathize with him by making Swara not understand or listen to him. I discussed this with few people. Some think this is out of character. Yes, maybe it is. Some think no it wasnt. Because even she was emotionally frustrated (and this was from a SwaSan fan and not Swara fan). It wasnt just worry about her sister but her own emotional frustration which talked that day. Even during malkin track, I felt when Sanskaar went over board, that was little out of his character for some and for some it wasnt at all. Right now, even the CVs know that we are disliking Swara for the way she is treating Sanskaar. And I am sure, they will redeem her and make her suffer for the way she has treated Sanskaar and at the end, we will accept our SwaSan again. I wouldnt say its wrong to expect logic or to not accept something is not within the character. But according to me, if there is something, that can give us the character back, I will look forward to it. Redeeming is more important for me. Is her character compromised? For some it is, and for some it hasnt. For some she has yet again taken Sanskaar for granted. We have in so many ways complained to CVs as to why is only Swara shown to work for the sisters bond? Why can't Ragini ever think of Swara's happiness or work on their bond? So that it looks acceptable? And by making Ragini cupid for SwaSan, they are going to redeem Ragini and show the her love and care of ragini for Swara. They are gonna show how Ragini has finally realized what Swara keeps doing for her and even after her going through pain, she will try to bring in happiness in her sisters life. Yah, realization is little early, after 6 months. LOL! But still. I think this is how it is. For me personally, I dont think it has compromised SwaSan. Yes, I am very much annoyed at Swara right now and will be even more in future if she keeps going overboard. But I will still be looking forward to Swara Sanskaar becoming SwaSan again. I am still looking forward to see their ups and downs. And yes, my sadist heart do want to see Swara pining for Sanskaar!! (Buahahaha Swara, tu toh gai!)

SwaSan are not emotional fools but they are emotional people!

Swara is definitely wrong, no doubt. And I am waiting for the day she works on it and makes it right again and this time, I want it to be FOREVER!

And thanks to Tams (@pluviophile.) who actually discussed so much with me and we both finally came out with this perspective. Thanks Tams, for taking all my craziness!
Edited by .IamShonali. - 8 years ago

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Posted: 8 years ago
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For me when ragini kidnapped track everyone blaming Swara for not trusting Sanskar, for me this time Sanskar didn't trust Swara &if we remember exactly same dialog Swara used when she was confronted Sanskar. Why Sanskar is hurting we can see clearly but when it's swara always blamed? I love Swasan but I am not blind what Sanskar did, the words he using. She put her life in danger for her (maheshwari)family every time & what she got back? She have to prove herself each and every time SAD but true, this time she fade up &she have all rights to angry with Sanskar because for them they are soul mate na?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Amazing post Shona! Thought I don't agree with you in some points but I agree with other points too!
I believe both Sanskaar & Swara are at faults & both are responsible for their current situation & separation! Bt I will blame Swara more than Sanskaar this time! As I said Sanskaar is also wrong and Swara being wrong too don't make Sanskaar right, the same way how Sanskaar being wrong don't make Swara right!
Both are wrong but Swara is more than Sanskaar!
And though I'm disappointed with both but I'm more disappointed with Swara & highly annoyed with her! And I want her to realize her mistakes & want her to apologize to Sanskaar & earn his love, trust, faith & understand him for FOREVER!
Yes, I want Sanskaar to apologize to Swara for his first statement of breaking relationship bcoz I also found him wrong for saying that though I don't think him wrong for saying that second time! For Sanskaar, I think he somewhere realized that he was wrong & he is blaming himself for Laksh being disappeared! So that's why I want Sanskaar to acknowledge his full mistake as he realized almost already Bt Swara is not cleared! I want her to realize her mistakes she did since that day when she decided to lie to Sanskaar!
I really wish both Swara & Sanskaar will mend their wrong!
Bt there are some reason why I'm holding grudges against Swara more than Sanskaar!
I'm getting late for my classes, so I need to get going, Bt I would try to put my points soon!
So lil res for now!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Swara has little fault but sanskar is a dump he is selfish man who always think about himself I agree swara is at fault but once sanskar should talk with swara before taking any decision if he don't have heart he should at least think of once before going further

I don't know about you people

I don't have any interest on swaragini Crap

I hate it

Sorry for bashing but
I am giving my opion that's it
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: .IamShonali.

So this is what I feel and you can definitely disagree to this. Just be mature about this. There is no need to abuse any characters in my post! And if you are planning to, please just stay away. Its a request!


There are certain things that have been out of character and OTT in this particular track but still there are few things I really wanted to point out and hence writing this. I think, its expectations for SwaSan that brought them in the condition that they are in today. Until now, whatever fights or mission they took, either working alone on it or not, they have had some POV. They agreed with each other to almost everything and even if they disagreed, the other was open enough to understand if not support the disagreement. And this was for the first time that their approach towards this situation was totally different. Like majority of us wanted, Sanskaar wanted to end his relationship with that family and wanted to move on. It was his stand for his and his family self respect. But Swara didnt agree to it. She is someone who will keep putting her self respect at stake if she thinks she is on the right path. And breaking off his kasam was the wrong step according to us and Sanskaar. But for Swara, its not new. Again, if she thinks she is on the right path, no kasam can stop her. She did the same thing in Kavya track. She broke off Shek's kasam, kept in touch with Sanskaar secretively even when Shek didnt want her to do so. So it wasnt a new thing for her but for us it was since we didnt support her step to support her sister who took her for granted time and again and not Sanskaar, who were each others support since long. What missed out here was COMMUNICATION. Swara didnt try to explain Sanskaar. She assumed once things will be ok, Sanskaar will be ok and even if he is angry at her, at least he will be happy that misunderstandings got resolved. But before that could happen, her truth came in front of him. He was hurt, in pain. He didnt expect her to go against his wish. And like most of us were, he got rightfully angry at her. But what he said in his anger didnt go well with me atleast and maybe with Swara as well. When he said "he will break their relationship no matter what happens", even in his rightful anger, atleast annoyed me. You dont have to agree its ok. I just felt that way. Yes, I know the guy was emotionally frustrated and you cannot expect him to think and say. I understand. And I think Swara, who usually never takes things personally, took this one because never in her wildest dreams she EXPECTED Sanskaar to say that. Like Sanskaar in his wildest dreams never EXPECTED Swara to go against his kasam. If Sanskaar has a right to stand up for what he feels, Swara does too. If Swara expects Sanskaar to understand her stand, she should understand his stand too. And when would that have happened? If they communicated. They both didnt. Communication is a soul of SwaSan's relationship and thats what went missing this time. Even after everything was ok, one week went by. We dont know what really happened but what I am assuming is, the distance that miscommunication created increased in this one week. As much as we know SwaSan, they are someone who communicates and sorts things out as well. We are yet to see but even before the one week, we saw Swara angry at Sanskaar for saying that thing. And I think the frustration within her increased regarding that because it didnt get sorted. I dont know if anyone approached or not. Sanskaar did or not. But during that confrontation drama, it looked like, they didnt talk about this or anything in general. My assumption again. And the frustration within her came out in the form of her blaming him for Laksh going missing. Sanskaar himself realized that Swara was upset with him for what he said to her that day and he tried to ask for chance of explanation. But at that point, Swara was just not Swara. She didnt listen and just left. And that broke Sanskaar's and our (atleast majority of us) expectation of Swara giving second chances to people. Because she always has and today she didnt. Why? The distance and the miscommunication. When Swara told Sanskaar, what he is trying to do today, was the same thing she was trying to do and he didnt understand her. She was in a way right when she said it. Again, expectation and them first time not being on the same page. And I think for this miscommunication, both are responsible. Swara is responsible more for sure. And Sanskaar cannot take the fact and decides to give her a final ultimatum to never accept her again in his life no matter what happens, making us happy. Because finally he stood up for himself. But that made Swara even more angry. Because she expected him to understand what hurt her and he again said the same thing, without understanding her. She was wrong to expect. But she wanted him to understand what he is saying right now is something he already said before and has hurt her. She wants him to understand but doesnt want to understand him. He knows she is upset with him for what he said but expects her to understand his warning as a chance that he is looking for. Again, miscommunication. And she leaves. 6 months passed by. We dont know what happened in between them. But we are seeing Sanskaar almost destroying himself. He is normal with everyone but himself and Swara. And that is making us think that how the hell is Swara letting Sanskaar destroy himself and then is ready to accept any punishment Sanskaar gives her the moment he brings Laksh back? It still feels like she blames him yet she knows she is wrong. Quite confusing. If there is no reason, the only thing I can think of is that Swara knows she is wrong and she has crossed her line and she will have to pay for her mistake she did and hence is ready to accept it. And even Sanskaar has gone in his dark world. And even though he knows, I think he has started blaming himself for Laksh's missing and his using his power to bring him back. But that power is more overpowered with his anger and revenge towards Swara. He wants to punish her at any cost and hence he wants to do that. But he is being normal with everyone else. He is also trying to talk and pacify AP who is actually giving him cold shoulders. He actually shouldn't be doing so for AP. That lady felt nothing when Sanskaar was assumed dead for 5 years and both of her sons are responsible for whatever is happening today and still she is behaving as if Sanskaar is responsible. Sanskaar shouldn't give two hoots to her but he still is.

I think what I am trying to convey is when things are being stagnant, like SwaSan's support for each other or their similar pov, one difference can create problems, especially if that difference is big. And thats how it is being shown for SwaSan. During the malkin track, we knew how Swara was treated. She deserved that. But after one point, we did feel Sanskaar was going little over board. We all felt he was acting, but he wasnt. He was made that way for us to have sympathy for Swara. And similarly, when Sanskaar said, their relation ship is over, it looked weird. And CVs made us sympathize with him by making Swara not understand or listen to him. I discussed this with few people. Some think this is out of character. Yes, maybe it is. Some think no it wasnt. Because even she was emotionally frustrated (and this was from a SwaSan fan and not Swara fan). It wasnt just worry about her sister but her own emotional frustration which talked that day. Even during malkin track, I felt when Sanskaar went over board, that was little out of his character for some and for some it wasnt at all. Right now, even the CVs know that we are disliking Swara for the way she is treating Sanskaar. And I am sure, they will redeem her and make her suffer for the way she has treated Sanskaar and at the end, we will accept our SwaSan again. I wouldnt say its wrong to expect logic or to not accept something is not within the character. But according to me, if there is something, that can give us the character back, I will look forward to it. Redeeming is more important for me. Is her character compromised? For some it is, and for some it hasnt. For some she has yet again taken Sanskaar for granted. We have in so many ways complained to CVs as to why is only Swara shown to work for the sisters bond? Why can't Ragini ever think of Swara's happiness or work on their bond? So that it looks acceptable? And by making Ragini cupid for SwaSan, they are going to redeem Ragini and show the her love and care of ragini for Swara. They are gonna show how Ragini has finally realized what Swara keeps doing for her and even after her going through pain, she will try to bring in happiness in her sisters life. Yah, realization is little early, after 6 months. LOL! But still. I think this is how it is. For me personally, I dont think it has compromised SwaSan. Yes, I am very much annoyed at Swara right now and will be even more in future if she keeps going overboard. But I will still be looking forward to Swara Sanskaar becoming SwaSan again. I am still looking forward to see their ups and downs. And yes, my sadist heart do want to see Swara pining for Sanskaar!! (Buahahaha Swara, tu toh gai!)

SwaSan are not emotional fools but they are emotional people!

Swara is definitely wrong, no doubt. And I am waiting for the day she works on it and makes it right again and this time, I want it to be FOREVER!

And thanks to Tams (@pluviophile.) who actually discussed so much with me and we both finally came out with this perspective. Thanks Tams, for taking all my craziness!

shonali w'ful post 👏👏i agree wid u but not completely.i agree wid u on sum points & disagree on sum points just like nupur is.an dyes theres major prob is miscommunication.
i'd always seen both sides.and if any1'd seen my prev posts i'd never supported sanky wen he was wrong esply during maalkin track wen he has gone overboard wid his silence & rudeness. i cud'd understood his pain & hurt at that time but not his overboard rudeness & silence.

during ML track i din't blame swara like many oders did. i understood her situn tho no happy wid her rudeness.in this track rather CVs messed wid the track.but i never wanted swara 2 suffer or got redemptn.just wanted 2 make up 4 all this by taking extra care of sanky like sanky did after maalkin track .

now cuming 2 ur post that i think u r rite that swara wanted sanky 2 understand her but herself doesn't want 2 understand him. i agree wid many ppl that swara has always taken sanky 4 granted as he'd always 4gave her easily or accept her easily.

i agree wid nupur that i did feel bad wen sanky 1st time talked abt relationship ending but agree wid 2nd time & i cud'd understood him. he 4 1st time asked sumthing from her and she ignored him. she din't try 2 make him understand. and she shud'd 1st let his anger cool down then tried 2 make him understand but she din't.
we don't know wat'd happened in these 6 months but here i find swara more at fault than sanky.i"ll say this time shes 75% at fault.

i just can't digest the fact that shes not wearing her MS & sindoor bcoz her darling ex criminal sis is unhappy & has lost her husband. and shes letting him destroying himself .it luks like shes so cold 2wards him & she doesn't care abt her relationship wid sanky or him in any way.all she cares abt her sis happiness. even her dialogue abt wats the use of wearing MS wen shomi asked her 2 wear it & her reply that she mite get the chance 2 wear it as 2day laksh mite b found luks like she doesn't care abt sanky.

i just wish swara shud realize her mistake ,make up 4 this & understand sanky's POV & his feelings & never take him or their relationship 4 granted

and ppl r saying all take swara 4 granted wen shes doing so much 4 the family? i wud like 2 ask if they'd taken her 4 granted then wat shes doing wid sanky??shes also no less wen it cums 2 sanky. she'd also taken him 4 granted.hes the one prsn who'd always understood her & never taken her 4 granted.

and wow now sanky has bcum selfish?? great. 👏how can any1 say that??😲 sanky is not selfish but rather i"ll say swara's ego & anger has gone overboard this time.

Edited by tiny15 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thank you for the post really appreciate your point of view towards the thing.
I don't understand why everybody just blaming swara only.
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For me swasan were never out of character
They both have different tolerance level with their siblings.
Swara has a very high tolerance level with ragini she convinces her till the end.
Sanskar's tolerance level is not that high. He tried to convince lakshay and he tried to convince him till the end. And then he lost his patience.
Here swara needs to understand that sanskar is not like her who would give his sibling benefit of doubt Everytime like her. And sanskar needs to understand that swara won't give up on ragini no matter what happens.
Both swasan are wrong. But not entirely. And both of them are right but not entirely.
Sanskar trusts swara. It's just that he never expected her to break off his kasam. That's why he said that no matter what he would leave her in anger. But he tried to stop her when she was leaving him. The dhamki he gave of not accepting her ever again if she leaves was at the end when he failed to convince her calmly. Swara also doesn't knows what lakshay said about sujju to sanskar. So here their is a communication gap too. Sanskar was wrong when he picked up that stone to kill lakshay. And also he was wrong when he over reacted on phone that he would break off his relationship with swara no matter what. Otherwise he was never wrong. When he gave that kasam he stood up for his self respect and when he gave that dhamki while she was leaving he was trying desperately the last thing he could do to stop her.
Swara too is not wrong entirely, she broke off the kasam n I think she was wrong here. I mean sanskar follows everything she says this was the first time I saw him demanding something from her and she didn't follow him. Then finally when she reunited the family sanskar forgot about the kasam and he was not looking forward to break off the marriage as he claimed because that was something he said in anger and frustration. But swara thought that sanskar is responsible for Lakshay's disappearance. Now that fine u r entitled to misunderstand and get upset with ur husband. But breaking off ur relationship for a mistake? I mean assuming that sanskar is wrong then also is it correct to give up on ur marital symbols and status. She never gives up on any other relationship. So here except for these 2 incident I don't find swara wrong too. She was right otherwise.

So the problem with swasan is that the situation was extreme and unfortunately in this extreme situation they reacted extremely. Sanskar and swara both couldn't keep their emotions in check. Sanskar is still suffering from extreme emotions even after the leap. Swara has mellowed down and has pulled herself together. But swara's ego is something that's quite a shock for me. I mean she is the same swara who even after being right can beg just to keep her relationship intact. And sanksar new devil avtar is not shocking for me, he has his Grey shade back, swara pulled him out of that shade and she pushed him back.
Edited by luvakanksha - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: luvakanksha

For me swasan were never out of character

They both have different tolerance level with their siblings.
Swara has a very high tolerance level with ragini she convinces her till the end.
Sanskar's tolerance level is not that high. He tried to convince lakshay and he tried to convince him till the end. And then he lost his patience.
Here swara needs to understand that sanskar is not like her who would give his sibling benefit of doubt Everytime like her. And sanskar needs to understand that swara won't give up on ragini no matter what happens.
Both swasan are wrong. But not entirely. And both of them are right but not entirely.
Sanskar trusts swara. It's just that he never expected her to break off his kasam. That's why he said that no matter what he would leave her in anger. But he tried to stop her when she was leaving him. The dhamki he gave of not accepting her ever again if she leaves was at the end when he failed to convince her calmly. Swara also doesn't knows what lakshay said about sujju to sanskar. So here their is a communication gap too. Sanskar was wrong when he picked up that stone to kill lakshay. And also he was wrong when he over reacted on phone that he would break off his relationship with swara no matter what. Otherwise he was never wrong. When he gave that kasam he stood up for his self respect and when he gave that dhamki while she was leaving he was trying desperately the last thing he could do to stop her.
Swara too is not wrong entirely, she broke off the kasam n I think she was wrong here. I mean sanskar follows everything she says this was the first time I saw him demanding something from her and she didn't follow him. Then finally when she reunited the family sanskar forgot about the kasam and he was not looking forward to break off the marriage as he claimed because that was something he said in anger and frustration. But swara thought that sanskar is responsible for Lakshay's disappearance. Now that fine u r entitled to misunderstand and get upset with ur husband. But breaking off ur relationship for a mistake? I mean assuming that sanskar is wrong then also is it correct to give up on ur marital symbols and status. She never gives up on any other relationship. So here except for these 2 incident I don't find swara wrong too. She was right otherwise.

So the problem with swasan is that the situation was extreme and unfortunately in this extreme situation they reacted extremely. Sanskar and swara both couldn't keep their emotions in check. Sanskar is still suffering from extreme emotions even after the leap. Swara has mellowed down and has pulled herself together. But swara's ego is something that's quite a shock for me. I mean she is the same swara who even after being right can beg just to keep her relationship intact. And sanksar new devil avtar is not shocking for me, he has his Grey shade back, swara pulled him out of that shade and she pushed him back.

Shona... applaud for this post👏👏you cleared everything...

Akku di... Can't agree more...😳

We should realise no to people are same...as I said earlier also both are at fault but swara a little more😃it doesn't mean that swara is to be blamed alone...just hope to see the full Tashan...and want them back...😳


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