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Posted: 9 years ago
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Like many of you here, I personally feel Teju was simply brilliant as negative Ragini...and not just the acting...the dialogues, the characterization everything made for a very compelling Ragini! She was hands down one of the most disturbing negative characters on TV...oscillating between black and grey with her lovely face and such pure innocence and committing down right horrible crimes one after the other in her quest and desperation for unrequited love! Her portrayal combined with the cat and mouse game that Swara and Sanskar played with her to unmask her, made for great TV viewing (and high TRPs). Ragini and Sanskar were the best written parts during that period...they had the best dialogues. So many of you have mentioned Ragini's dialogue...'mohabbat buri'...its hard to forget how good Teju was in those scenes. The way she begged forgiveness from her mother and sister and kept on harming them and falling deeper and deeper into the quagmire made one feel so disgusted yet so sorry for her at the same time. And one could see she was mentally unbalanced by her obsession for Lakshya and his repeated use-abuse of her.
Of course it was obvious that she had to be redeemed at some point and made to realize her mistakes...but to redeem a complex character like Ragini required brilliant writing. Sanskar's redemption was handled brilliantly...in fact his character graph has been the best in the show so far and his character and the Swasan love story has been handled beautifully! So I had high hopes that they would be able to do at least some justice to Ragini also. Her redemption should have been gradual and Lakshya should have fallen out of love with Swara and in love with Ragini slowly as she unwound her journey from the negative mess she had landed herself in. Instead we got Malkin, Kavya, a hurried jail track and lo and behold they are both positive and in love. I totally agree that Ragya have a very good chemistry and they could sizzle (as much as Swasan😉) if only most of us could relate to them. The angst and desperation that Lakshya should have gone through for Ragini and her realization that his love was toxic for her soul, should have been handled with care and subtlety. Then they should have rebuild the bridge towards each other from the ashes of their realizations, instead of accepting each other in one shot... bad bad handling.
Why are Swasan so compelling...because Sanskar went through hell and back to win his love...and Swara realized the hard way what he meant for her. The CVs lost the plot after the malkin track...

Ragini does not have to go negative again...all she needs is a good story line instead of being the lesser half of the Swaragini duo...assistant detective to Swara's Byomkesh!! They are over doing the sisterly bond now so we can connect to them as we did in the beginning of the show, which is very difficult. What is needed is a balanced story line where the focus can be on the two couples and their journey while the sisterly bond can serve as a background instead of being shoved down our throats all the time at the cost of completely sidelining the other halves of the two sisters. Sanskar's character was the most relatable and realistic among all four...now he is a prop to the sisters who comes alive now and then. Lakshya is just a wall decor anyway.

Hindi serial makers have such a dearth of ideas that to expect them to do justice to both couples is like asking for the moon. But yes, llike some of you, I feel the memory track can be like a shot in the arm needed to revive the show and the love story of both the couples can start afresh. They need to take it slow, not introduce any random idiotic villains/vamps but let the situations be the hurdles and let all four blossom in their respective roles. Varun, Teju and Helly are brilliant and can bring so much to the scenes given the scope. Namish has his limitations as an actor, but he seems to be improving and his comic timing ain't so bad. So use them properly Cvs. Let's hope for the best...

Wow...I ended up writing a thesis😲
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I don't want a negative Ragini again...it would be difficult to accept it as much as it is difficult to accept the positive Ragini now! 😔


I feel the CVs should not have had the expose of Ragini immediately after SwaSan forced wedding...it should have taken more time and her exposure should have been the starting of her redemption as well and it should have happened because of the circumstances, not because Lakshya fell into the river at the same spot of as Swara and went thru the same experience. I wonder how it would have turned out if SwaSan stayed together after the forced wedding and continued to try and expose Ragini and it happened much later in the show. There would have been no need to introduce Kavita at the time they did, they could have kept her for much later when everything was hunky dory between SwaSan.

Ragini deserved a strong redemption track. She was so good as the negative character who plays with everyone's emotions! Ragini and Lakshya being in love now is very hard to swallow, because they have done so much wrong to each other...they would need time to get together again. They too deserved a track for their love to develop, slowly.

I am not sure how much potential the upcoming memory loss track has for RagYa...but if RagYa had not come together as shown, this ML track would have been awesome for both couples.

I find it difficult to accept the SwaRagini bond and when either of them spouts an OTT dialogue, especially Ragini, I feel sick! 🤢 I wish the CVs would not thrust the sis bond on us...just let them do things together but not to the exclusion of other people around!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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The problem with Hindi serials is that they do not know when to stop. When someone is shown positive that person is raised to a level of God.When someone is negative there is no limit to the negativity. In reality we all are grey. Probably this is the reason why Tejaswi wanted to quit when her character became out and out black. She is a young actress with a decent fan following. Obviously she wouldn't want to destroy her image. In this industry if someone is stamped a vamp once...It is forever...For eg Urvashi Dholakia, Ashwini Kalsekar etc. Tejaswi will not want this when she has the potential to play a positive female lead. Even if Ragini turns negative again in this serial, I guess we will get to another actress instead of Tejaswi...because she will quit.
I am not saying this to hurt anyone, but I feel Helly should be given at least one opportunity to turn negative (even if it is a fake one to prove something). She is a very good and dedicated actress and it will add dimensions to her character. The story will also be interesting in this way.
Edited by priya_86 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#34
sorry...i don't want negative ragini back...i am loving Ragya... Swaragini...Sangini bond...SwaSanGini bond...so no negative ragini...if negative ragini is back...all teju fans has to quit the show becos teju will not be doing the show...she will definitely quit the show
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Posted: 9 years ago
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why only ragini. yeah ofcourse she is briliant actror but kya helly briliant nahi hai atleast use bhi briliant banne ka ek chance milna chaiye and audiance ko bhi kuchh naya dekhne ko mileg vaise bhi uska memory loss hone hai to cv ko use yeh opportunity deni chaiya briliant actor banne ke liye.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: priya_86

The problem with Hindi serials is that they do not know when to stop. When someone is shown positive that person is raised to a level of God.When someone is negative there is no limit to the negativity. In reality we all are grey. Probably this is the reason why Tejaswi wanted to quit when her character became out and out black. She is a young actress with a decent fan following. Obviously she wouldn't want to destroy her image. In this industry if someone is stamped a vamp once...It is forever...For eg Urvashi Dholakia, Ashwini Kalsekar etc. Tejaswi will not want this when she has the potential to play a positive female lead. Even if Ragini turns negative again in this serial, I guess we will get to another actress instead of Tejaswi...because she will quit.

I am not saying this to hurt anyone, but I feel Helly should be given at least one opportunity to turn negative (even if it is a fake one to prove something). She is a very good and dedicated actress and it will add dimensions to her character. The story will also be interesting in this way.

See I don't believe in this stamping business, I think it depends on fans.
For eg karanveer bohra was a terror in dil se di dua but he is not tagged as negative
Anita Hassanandani is also not tagged as negative
Sumona chakrovarti was negative in balh but now she being loved in comedy
Ali asgar was negative in kutumb
I don't remember a lady's name, if u have watched ipkknd2 she was playing mother of shlok she was negative in kasauti
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Posted: 9 years ago
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No akanksha, we hv to agree that if sm1 is stamped as negative then she is mostly provided with negative roles...Anita Hassandani is not stamped as negative cuz her role has turned positive... n about ali, he was always a comedian... n d other role he played as negative didn't get much fame..(as per my knowledge) ..n anita is still bashed..
And anita chhodo..jz look at teja..ppl hv been still babbling against her...an actor playing negative role is jz gifted hatred mails n all..yeah negative role is as imp as positive but everyone doesn't think as we do...
N most of all, there are ppl who r called fans...n we felt so bad when Ragini was turned grey n then totally black...
N I jz thanks teja for deciding to leave this show therefore we got our positive Ragini back... but still she is mere show piece 😒
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I dnt understand some thingg still splly about Teja fans...guys if she is bashed as Ragini then its good sign which proves she did her job perfectly whats wrong in that?????Karanvir Bohra is one of the worst villian as character i hv seen.i hate his character bt loved him as an actor a lot.so why guys r upset wd people saying bad about Ragini.thats nrmal right?????Look at Roop aftr playing two ngtv roles she is doing a cmplete positive role.
@TM Aanchal dear i knw u r die-heart ragya fan and u never like Swasan even loves to mock them so u r stating them as perfect couple is kinda weird for me bt as i said that if its a general post then i will say I dnt want Teja to play neg again atleast in dis shw.It will ruin everything including Ragya...so bttr keep them positive and i want Karanvir in d shw as villian
He is d best
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Radhadreamlove

No akanksha, we hv to agree that if sm1 is stamped as negative then she is mostly provided with negative roles...Anita Hassandani is not stamped as negative cuz her role has turned positive... n about ali, he was always a comedian... n d other role he played as negative didn't get much fame..(as per my knowledge) ..n anita is still bashed..
And anita chhodo..jz look at teja..ppl hv been still babbling against her...an actor playing negative role is jz gifted hatred mails n all..yeah negative role is as imp as positive but everyone doesn't think as we do...
N most of all, there are ppl who r called fans...n we felt so bad when Ragini was turned grey n then totally black...
N I jz thanks teja for deciding to leave this show therefore we got our positive Ragini back... but still she is mere show piece 😒

People are not babbling against Teju they are still babling against ragini because her character didn't get a fair redemption.
Now I just remembered other example sanjeeda shekh was negative too in kayamath also Shabir Ahluwalia was negative in kahin toh hoga
What I mean to say is it's upto the fandom of a particular actor to bash him for him or her for their reel life character or to appreciate him or her for his or her real life acting skills
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: priya_86

The problem with Hindi serials is that they do not know when to stop. When someone is shown positive that person is raised to a level of God.When someone is negative there is no limit to the negativity. In reality we all are grey. Probably this is the reason why Tejaswi wanted to quit when her character became out and out black. She is a young actress with a decent fan following. Obviously she wouldn't want to destroy her image. In this industry if someone is stamped a vamp once...It is forever...For eg Urvashi Dholakia, Ashwini Kalsekar etc. Tejaswi will not want this when she has the potential to play a positive female lead. Even if Ragini turns negative again in this serial, I guess we will get to another actress instead of Tejaswi...because she will quit.


i like what you have said here...it is so true. in his industry if you play negative in one show even for a small time, that is the only roles you are likely to get and breaking out of that mould can be very tough. anita hasnandani went through that day because of playing negative shagun earlier herself. she had to go comedy shows, go through an entire phase to move to positive shagun else that was were she was going to stuck for good. it is the same with others who wanted to make transition...they have had to move on do small side parts, some middle of the path characters before they could return to roles that were positive. they in effect ended with forced gap

it would be a career suicide for someones who wants to play lead, to be stuck in that zone. hindi serials have only black and white characters...traits amplified.
Edited by foresight - 9 years ago

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