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I think the topic maker is more confused than the rest.Rags stopping their divorce is null n void coz she was the main culprit in getting the divirced paper signed through trickery .Rags is only doing nice things so she can benefit by keeping her prize.but the minute she feels she is losing laksh her tru self will be back.

Originally posted by: chinyere

I think the topic maker is more confused than the rest.Rags stopping their divorce is null n void coz she was the main culprit in getting the divirced paper signed through trickery .Rags is only doing nice things so she can benefit by keeping her prize.but the minute she feels she is losing laksh her tru self will be back.

Rags is a criminal always have had n will be .she is selfish envious n jealous of swara

I've already told that m confused 😊
I remember u..btw

Originally posted by: Radhadreamlove

Friends I hv an issue. ..or say a confusion. ..
What is some ppl's problem. ...

When Ragini was negative ..u didn't like her, right? N for that I won't blame you...anyone would hate her if sees in that way...

N now when she is turning positive, you,again, are not liking her...I know she is not getting a proper redemption track but, however, she is realizing her mistakes, isn't she?

N they say, realizing ur mistakes n amending them is important than PUNISHMENT. ..
U don't agree?

Plz do reply. ..

N if possible..no bashing plz 😊..I want a polite discussion. ..n m making this post not for creating a racket but just to clear my confusion. ..

😊 😊

Originally posted by: foresight

Let me attempt to explain this as much as I can...while also giving a gist of what everyone is saying.

I won't go into your question of when Ragini was negative since you have answered it already.

So lets look at positive Ragini. The first question to ask is has she become positive yet? If you say that being positive is not doing anything bad, she had probably done that in the last episode to some extent, nothing before that. If you say that being positive is actually thinking about someone else as well, she hasnt done that yet. Since as everyone had said, her reason to pull back the divorce papers in this instance, were more to do about her worry about what they could do in terms of bad juju for her own relationship. So people want a positive Ragini? The answer from most will be yes. But that negative to neutral to positive has to be shown the right way for it to be believable. Right now, that is not happening.

Is realising and making amendments important than punishment, again most here agree with that statement, but Ragini hasnt realised it yet, amendment will come in later.

Now about the question of redemption not beginning yet but being fast. If you look at every thing that is realistically needed for a redemption to happen - guilt, realisation of mistakes, genuine need to make amends, actually making the amends even if it is hurtful and then finally forgiveness. you and many others have captured it. unfortunately not of those steps have been reached yet from ragini's end. so from her heart, she had not taken any steps.

Now about redemption being fast. the pace at which the other characters around her are shown to be forgiving her and changing their views without her doing a single thing, is pointing to all the signs of CVs showing her redeemed in one quick move. the withdrawing of divorce papers, the token support to catch maasi, they all of sudden care for her maa, the all of sudden phone calls with swara who she was taunting about first love just a few days back, the change in view of AP ...all point to it being shown as a quick fast track redemption in which in the end they might show one token sorry (if that).

compare that to the long drawn one for sanskar where they clearly showed his guilt, his acceptance of his mistakes, his bearing the brunt of everyone's words when he had already changed and was acting on the changed views, until people very slowly started trusting him and abusing him less...made it very clear and logical for audience to see not just that he had repented, but that only after seeking forgiveness and acting appropriated from the heart, was he actually forgive.

with ragini, the way the track and everyone's actions are going, she is likely to be forgiven pronto without asking for forgiveness and really even working towards it.

Originally posted by: foresight

Let me attempt to explain this as much as I can...while also giving a gist of what everyone is saying.

I won't go into your question of when Ragini was negative since you have answered it already.

So lets look at positive Ragini. The first question to ask is has she become positive yet? If you say that being positive is not doing anything bad, she had probably done that in the last episode to some extent, nothing before that. If you say that being positive is actually thinking about someone else as well, she hasnt done that yet. Since as everyone had said, her reason to pull back the divorce papers in this instance, were more to do about her worry about what they could do in terms of bad juju for her own relationship. So people want a positive Ragini? The answer from most will be yes. But that negative to neutral to positive has to be shown the right way for it to be believable. Right now, that is not happening.

Is realising and making amendments important than punishment, again most here agree with that statement, but Ragini hasnt realised it yet, amendment will come in later.

Now about the question of redemption not beginning yet but being fast. If you look at every thing that is realistically needed for a redemption to happen - guilt, realisation of mistakes, genuine need to make amends, actually making the amends even if it is hurtful and then finally forgiveness. you and many others have captured it. unfortunately not of those steps have been reached yet from ragini's end. so from her heart, she had not taken any steps.

Now about redemption being fast. the pace at which the other characters around her are shown to be forgiving her and changing their views without her doing a single thing, is pointing to all the signs of CVs showing her redeemed in one quick move. the withdrawing of divorce papers, the token support to catch maasi, they all of sudden care for her maa, the all of sudden phone calls with swara who she was taunting about first love just a few days back, the change in view of AP ...all point to it being shown as a quick fast track redemption in which in the end they might show one token sorry (if that).

compare that to the long drawn one for sanskar where they clearly showed his guilt, his acceptance of his mistakes, his bearing the brunt of everyone's words when he had already changed and was acting on the changed views, until people very slowly started trusting him and abusing him less...made it very clear and logical for audience to see not just that he had repented, but that only after seeking forgiveness and acting appropriated from the heart, was he actually forgive.

with ragini, the way the track and everyone's actions are going, she is likely to be forgiven pronto without asking for forgiveness and really even working towards it.

Basic fault is if cvz...even cvz dunno how to redeem ragini properly coz they themselves,are confused..after destroying her character completely they themselves,Dr don't know how to redeem her...and since it's there show they know in due course people will accept positive cm raginj siding all doubts...we,all like stupids,are,discussing it here...coz it's pretty natural...and they r taking easy way out cf oz,they aren't answerable to anybody...which show has ever ft followed what audience wants...as per my view ragini can't be played by any other actress than teju...and to keep her..they have to turn her positive forcibly when they we're actually quite happy with there negative ragini..so they don't have really time tobplan out proper redemption...so keeping all logic aside...I just want positive ragini..ragya,track to begin..and forgodsake make swara,human...and let her learn some smartness from sanskar and her past experience...I am hating mahaan swara,as much negative ragini...plz CVS,balance them out...I want yo relate to them...I loved swaragi and want them back and I don't expect any logic by Ph..just want them back so I can enjoy watching it back...and plz,stop destroying sanskar now...don't make him Mr. AHAM OF SAATHIYA WHO JUST HAS ONE LinE MAA...U R RIGHT...OR BLAH BLAH...AM REALLY LIKING SANSKAR AND GREY LAKSHYA FOR A CHANGE...THEY ARE FRESH AND DIFFERENT FROM REGULAR MALE DUMMY LEADS...PLZ EVEN OVERNIGHT CHANGE IS GOOD FOR MY VIEWING.. SWARAGINI BACK TOGETHER...BECAUSE IF WE EVER GO BY EVEN A LITTLE LOGIC...RAGINI NEEDS,TO BE IN MENTAL ASSYLUM...LIKES OF HER CHARACTERS CAN NEVER REDEEM OR GAIN TRUST OF PEOPLE...ME FOR ONE WOULDN'T WANT LIKES,OF HER TO EVER BE NEAR ME FOR MY OWN SANITY AND SAFETY...AND LIKES OF SWARA ARE ALSO TOO UNREAL AND DELLUSIONAL AND DONT EXIST IN REAL WORLD AND SHE TOO NEEDS,A LITTLE HELP REGARDING HER OWN DEVELOPMENT...I WOULDN'T LIKE LIKES OF CHARACTER SWARA TO INTERFERE OR EVERY TIME DECIDE FOR ME...OR BECOME A MORAL POLICE OFFICER...A KM D THEN NOT LEARNT FROM MY PAST EXPERIENCES...SO PLZ CVZ...DON'T OVERDO SWASAN AND SPOIL THEM AS U HAVE DONE RAGINI AND DON'T UNDERPLAY RAGYA AS U R EXPERIMENTING WITH SWASAN...THEY ARE VERY INTERESTING CAST AND LEADS..AND USE THEM TO THERE POTENTIAL...

Exactly ragini is only changing she isn't redeemed yet. When she will change everyone will know it.

Honestly i like to see ragini positive...but with these current trck i don't have any expectation...plain, dumb ,mute,numb .i mean cvs has done so much with these past week bringing kavita maasi track literally not able to enjoy anything bec every frame has them...

Originally posted by: Senoritaamor

Exactly ragini is only changing she isn't redeemed yet. When she will change everyone will know it.

from all our experiences if Indian tv...talking logic us utter nonsense...so I just want relaxing entertainment and swaragini together..be it overnight...

Originally posted by: foresight

Let me attempt to explain this as much as I can...while also giving a gist of what everyone is saying.

I won't go into your question of when Ragini was negative since you have answered it already.

So lets look at positive Ragini. The first question to ask is has she become positive yet? If you say that being positive is not doing anything bad, she had probably done that in the last episode to some extent, nothing before that. If you say that being positive is actually thinking about someone else as well, she hasnt done that yet. Since as everyone had said, her reason to pull back the divorce papers in this instance, were more to do about her worry about what they could do in terms of bad juju for her own relationship. So people want a positive Ragini? The answer from most will be yes. But that negative to neutral to positive has to be shown the right way for it to be believable. Right now, that is not happening.

Is realising and making amendments important than punishment, again most here agree with that statement, but Ragini hasnt realised it yet, amendment will come in later.

Now about the question of redemption not beginning yet but being fast. If you look at every thing that is realistically needed for a redemption to happen - guilt, realisation of mistakes, genuine need to make amends, actually making the amends even if it is hurtful and then finally forgiveness. you and many others have captured it. unfortunately not of those steps have been reached yet from ragini's end. so from her heart, she had not taken any steps.

Now about redemption being fast. the pace at which the other characters around her are shown to be forgiving her and changing their views without her doing a single thing, is pointing to all the signs of CVs showing her redeemed in one quick move. the withdrawing of divorce papers, the token support to catch maasi, they all of sudden care for her maa, the all of sudden phone calls with swara who she was taunting about first love just a few days back, the change in view of AP ...all point to it being shown as a quick fast track redemption in which in the end they might show one token sorry (if that).

compare that to the long drawn one for sanskar where they clearly showed his guilt, his acceptance of his mistakes, his bearing the brunt of everyone's words when he had already changed and was acting on the changed views, until people very slowly started trusting him and abusing him less...made it very clear and logical for audience to see not just that he had repented, but that only after seeking forgiveness and acting appropriated from the heart, was he actually forgive.

with ragini, the way the track and everyone's actions are going, she is likely to be forgiven pronto without asking for forgiveness and really even working towards it.

You r not getting my point yaar...
You see...I m not saying that Ragini is positive. ..no she isn't positive yet...

M asking that why r ppl not accepting a positive Ragini.?

I already said in a post that
Redemption is not an overnight procedure. .it takes time. .so will it take with Ragini. ..
😊