dialogue

very true the dialogue which ragini said 2 sanskaar
hum dilse bure nhi hai, par kabhi kabhi humari acchayi humara fayada utha leti hai, humara pyar hi Hume kuch galat karne pe majboor kar deta hai, jab hum kuch apne liye karte hai to shayad halato ke samane hum Bure dikhe par humari neeyat buri nhi hoti .
this was the same dialogue which once rishabh Bajaj( kasauti zindagi ki ) said to some person, when he seperated anurag prerna after marriage as he makes anurag believed that prerna slept with him after marrying anurag.
when i was in my early 20s the dialogue I used 2 like in serials I use 2 record it. I found my old records then I found this , so I did share. I m not comparing this serial with KZK , I just only share it like this ony.
but this dialogue implies on us also in real life.

good observation n memory (claps)
yeah its very true...but only from their POV...I mean we can (just assume) forgive them, don't hate them if we accept this point but the people who suffered because of them, how can they forgive them?
also I feel this thing is a justification which is not accepted by me...doing wrong to someone bad is acceptable...but doing wrong to someone who always cared for u for ur selfishness is dumb..

Originally posted by: kasakthegreat

very true the dialogue which ragini said 2 sanskaar
hum dilse bure nhi hai, par kabhi kabhi humari acchayi humara fayada utha leti hai, humara pyar hi Hume kuch galat karne pe majboor kar deta hai, jab hum kuch apne liye karte hai to shayad halato ke samane hum Bure dikhe par humari neeyat buri nhi hoti .
this was the same dialogue which once rishabh Bajaj( kasauti zindagi ki ) said to some person, when he seperated anurag prerna after marriage as he makes anurag believed that prerna slept with him after marrying anurag.
when i was in my early 20s the dialogue I used 2 like in serials I use 2 record it. I found my old records then I found this , so I did share. I m not comparing this serial with KZK , I just only share it like this ony.
but this dialogue implies on us also in real life.

I watched that show and one of my biggest problem with the whole bajaj prerna equation was that to make prerna bajaj happen (due to animosity between shweta and cezanne) they kind of just put mitti over a lot of UNACCEPTABLE things done by bajaj. Of course anu was wrong but bajaj created those situations, eve took advantage of Prems death, was the reason sneha didn't get her fathers name and when prerna found out she was like it's ok I guess cos you helped me after getting me into trouble. Like no. Bajaj was a bad person for that and he didn't get any punishment for that. And if Ragini manages to get what she wants, by screwing over swara and laksh that also makes her a bad person. At the end of the day your actions reflect the goodness of your heart. Not your own self proclamation. And Ragini and sanskaars actions till now don't show me goodness in their hearts but rather selfishness in their cores. They think they're good people who've been wronged but they're both just lost souls who didn't get what they wanted and are being petulant about it but using self-righteous excuses for doing wrong. That's it. I'd rather they owned their negativity cos it's just not justifiable no matter what they say, I may even give sanskaar the benefit of the doubt but Ragini is just wrong, people's hearts break every day. In this very show we've been shown 5- Laksh, swara, shekhar, Shomi and Janki- other people whose hearts were broken and guess what? They didn't employ underhanded tricks to get what they wanted or go crazy. So there's really no justifying her now. She's, right now, not a good person.

I loved the dialogue...so true.
Great observation dr...
Ps:interesting hobby u had(recording fav dialoguess from serials)...a unique one

today nobody is god , even laksh is not a saint , tell me tejaswani did laksh got punishment over his deed apart from swara nobody knows that it was laksh who leaked the video 2 dp defaming shekhar&shomi . yes bajaj did wrong but he gave prerna much secure & happy life , prerna was very happy with bajaj initially she was heartbroken but after being with bajaj she did see his gud qualities also . prerna did fall in luv with bajaj. Bajaj was not totally negative nor is sangini every person had it own flaws , no person is perfect neither u , neither me or anyone that doesn't means that person is bad , selfishness is a strong emotion of human which every person has. thinking about or own self is not bad. this serial & many other serial make leads highly undigestable by making them so selfless that even god felt shy coming in front of them

i don't know KZK
will not talk of it
but here...laksh replenished for his mistakes by bringing shekhar shomi together...and with that i was specially referring to swara...she never cause harm to ragini...

Originally posted by: kasakthegreat

today nobody is god , even laksh is not a saint , tell me tejaswani did laksh got punishment over his deed apart from swara nobody knows that it was laksh who leaked the video 2 dp defaming shekhar&shomi . yes bajaj did wrong but he gave prerna much secure & happy life , prerna was very happy with bajaj initially she was heartbroken but after being with bajaj she did see his gud qualities also . prerna did fall in luv with bajaj. Bajaj was not totally negative nor is sangini every person had it own flaws , no person is perfect neither u , neither me or anyone that doesn't means that person is bad , selfishness is a strong emotion of human which every person has. thinking about or own self is not bad. this serial & many other serial make leads highly undigestable by making them so selfless that even god felt shy coming in front of them

It's one thing to think about yourself and totally different thing to screw over other people and take what is there's. It is selfish if I have 3 acres of land and don't want to share it with my friend who just needs one. Then I'm thinking of my own security. But it's wrong if I sneakily get my friend's 3 acres of land signed as mine. That's snatching. Just because I then decide to let my friend live on one acre of that 3 acres of land doesn't negate the fact that I am a bad person. That's exactly what bajaj did and the only reason that people accepted that fact so easily was because prerna treated it like the most casual little mistake. Any rational woman wouldn't have taken it so lightly, you don't just forgive the person responsible for the wreckage of your life and start a life with them. The only reason they didn't show prerna fussing was because of shweta and cezannes issues. But it was never even really discussed in the show, just casually mentioned. No matter how great a life bajaj gave prerna he could never take away the confusion and humiliation that her children faced on a regular basis or the struggles prerna faced regarding that. There's no taking that away. Conflicts that wouldn't have been present in her life if Bajaj hadn't screwed it up. It's one thing to be imperfect and unknowingly harm someone and a totally different thing to be actively conspiring to ruin someone's life because you want something of there's. Ragini is doing the EXACT same thing. She's not being selfish, if she was she'd openly tell swara, you can't have laksh, I want him, knowing swara and laksh love each other. But conspiring against her and harming her for your own benefit, that's being a bad person, not simply a selfish person. There's no grey area between the two situations. I'm completely fine being Machiavellian as long as there's no pretense of being a good person. To a good person, the end doesn't justify the means. thats like saying that the countless lives lost in Afghanistan or Iraq were all justified because they managed to kill an aweful dictator and a lunatic. Gandhi was a good person because he cared the means and Mao Tze Tung is demonized because he didn't care about the means. I'm not comparing a serial version of good and bad- just the real life version. I would judge any person playing unnecessary vindictive mind games like Ragini as a bad person in real life. It's not because I'm selfless or haven't done things to get what I want but my moral compass generally stops me from trying to takeover things that don't belong to me but to someone else. and to me having a basic moral compass doesn't make me god, just human. And if we're going to compare mistakes of laksh and Ragini, it's a mistake vs a crime- one made a video of Shomi admitting she was with Shekhar infront of many people and the other forced two people into an intimate situation and created a dirty mms of them in a very compromising situation. Laksh was trying to save himself and Ragini, a girl he didn't know at all and Ragini was harming the two people who were trying HARD to save her. But I think frankly, laksh had been punished, he could've rode on the wave of success after DP broke things with Ragini but he didn't, he realized his mistake and essentially fixed it by leaving his family and helping get Shekhar Shomi together. Raginis actions don't reflect any remorse or intention to correct herself at all. So no, she doesn't get any brownie points even in comparison to Laksh.

According to me Ragini is not negative till now...i dnt know abt future bs cvs can go any extent to glorify swara...so they can even turn Ragini a murderer for that.
As of now Ragini is not a bad person...she is just a confused dump girl.
According to me she is a broad minded person ..thats y she could accept her step sister swara as her sister whole heartedly..n let her dad marry his old lover whole heartedly..
Call me narrow minded or negative or anything...i dnt care ..but let me admit if I was in Raginis place I wd have never let it happen...instead I wd have hated my dad,his lover n my step sister..I am damn possessive abt my dad n mom.
Now a days she is acting selfish but that's what makes her human...n every thing is fair in love n war😉

Originally posted by: -Neelambari-

According to me Ragini is not negative till now...i dnt know abt future bs cvs can go any extent to glorify swara...so they can even turn Ragini a murderer for that.
As of now Ragini is not a bad person...she is just a confused dump girl.
According to me she is a broad minded person ..thats y she could accept her step sister swara as her sister whole heartedly..n let her dad marry his old lover whole heartedly..
Call me narrow minded or negative or anything...i dnt care ..but let me admit if I was in Raginis place I wd have never let it happen...instead I wd have hated my dad,his lover n my step sister..I am damn possessive abt my dad n mom.
Now a days she is acting selfish but that's what makes her human...n every thing is fair in love n war😉

My dear I guess it's a matter of perspective, my parents have been divorced for 15 years and my dads been married 3 times since and I raise my stepson from my husbands previous relationship so to me it's not really a big deal. But I can and do admire that for her it was a big thing. But that doesn't excuse her actions now. I've actually always stood by that Ragini was a goldmine of stories ignored blatantly by the cvs but the current storyline she's been given is a blatantly negative one. Let's call a spade a spade, making a compromising mms of your sister and getting the supposed love of your life into jail is not ok. And alls fair in love and war is a really baseless excuse for cowardice of gutless people who can't fight for their love on the front lines. For me thus she's negative right now, she's not being selfish and petulant, she's being downright negative. Even if I let go of the mms thing, drugging swara and trapping her in a shady hotel to malign her reputation is also unacceptable and wrong. Not a display of humanity. I want her to come out of this and amend her ways, that will be humanity. Let's not make excuses for her, let's demand better.

Originally posted by: -Neelambari-

According to me Ragini is not negative till now...i dnt know abt future bs cvs can go any extent to glorify swara...so they can even turn Ragini a murderer for that.
As of now Ragini is not a bad person...she is just a confused dump girl.
According to me she is a broad minded person ..thats y she could accept her step sister swara as her sister whole heartedly..n let her dad marry his old lover whole heartedly..
Call me narrow minded or negative or anything...i dnt care ..but let me admit if I was in Raginis place I wd have never let it happen...instead I wd have hated my dad,his lover n my step sister..I am damn possessive abt my dad n mom.
Now a days she is acting selfish but that's what makes her human...n every thing is fair in love n war😉

completely agree
even I could not have done what ragini did for her father
its way too hard
it was easy for swara as both are her parents but ragini gave shomi the place of her mother and bonding the same with her
hatts off
but yet ragini is not bad from inside...I agree...but she is going bad way which she herself admits...
dadi agrees ragini is doing wrong..if she is still not negative yet, then dadi dpm sanskar his mother all are good
and trust CVS...even for glorifying swara they won't make rags a murderer...if they wanted to, they would have made her push dida...

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