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Posted: 9 years ago
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I read the WU and I didn't get it. I just saw the episode, and I still didn't get it.

Okay, it wasn't Pankaj's blood. How does that absolve him? It's like proving a negative. Especially in circumstances where the alleged victim insists he was the person who molested her, the presence of someone else widens the net at most , it doesn't make Pankaj innocent. It also links to something I mentioned a few days back, which I'll get to later.

Don't get me wrong. I know Pankaj didn't do anything. BUT we're talking in terms of that monster Logic here. Pankaj was accused. If the police acted on psy's word, and if psy insists it's he who did it, if another witness who was obviously hostile (to the 'proscecution'--I mean Yuvraj's pro-Pankaj bias was clear) admitted Pankaj entered psy's room, then Pankaj cannot be found innocent on the basis of someone else's blood being on glass that was broken AFTER the event, in a room where evidence was contaminated, and where the 'proof' was discovered by 2 people on the side of the defence. Now people, please don't tell me I shouldn't expect logic in a serial. I know I shouldn't, but I would like it anyway.

First, there seem to be 2 lots of broken SOMEthing. If something broke when Pankaj heard a noise, why did the police find nothing after making a big deal out of searching the room for evidence? What evidence DID they find? We've already gone over the joke of a sealed room being open for any Tom, Dick, Harry, and their whole families and all their friends to walk through, which immediately makes any further discoveries inadmissible in law. (But not in serials, apparently.) So WHAT broke when Krishna was doing his thing that night? Door pane? Window pane? Cvs not decided, the better to cover their asses? Forgive repetition, but if police had already searched the room, this is after the fact and cannot go to prove anyone's guilt or innocence.

Aside: Ramesh can't be a very good cleaner if he didn't notice anything. Maybe he was busy swimming in the non-existent swimming pool instead of cleaning the house...Okay, okay, I'll let it go.

RagsMen are frustrated cows who should get a life. Preferably together, away from our screens.

Gauri looks like she's relapsed into pre-sudden-recovery. She's definitely seems guilty of SOMETHING. I hope. Adi should be beaten up by all the Birla bros, much more violently than Radhe was. Someday. Inshallah.

Saumya, what a friend! Took 10 seconds flat to go back to accusing Su. I'm glad Krishna is going to appear today and that at least won't be stretched from here to eternity.

Looking forward to court scenes again. And looking forward to my normal past-time of catching out cvs. What the heck, I put in the time, if not as much as many of you.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Anita i knw it's impossible bt i'll TRY to instill some logic in all this...
1. The proof that it wasn't pankaj's blood would prove that there was some other person present in the room... Coz acc to yuvani they're trying to prove that someone else molested gauri nd due to darkness in the rum she couldn't see that person nd blamed pankaj for it.. The blood samples prove this coz they think the glass broke the day of incident..
2. Ur right there were two instances of glass breaking nd i guess krishna broke the window pane...
3. The day police searched the evidence was that the room was in the same condition as gauri said (i knw it's a bad joke...)
4.there were small statements frm yuvraj that gupta ji got the permission frm court for searching the room without any other official so we can assume that they did it after some 'special' permission got frm court..
5. Saumya they are trying to keep her character graph 'constant' coz everytime she gets a chance to distrust suhani she grabs it with both hands.. I was happy that yuvi was going to shut her up bt then mahaan suhani stopped him...

This is the most i could do...😆 bt no matter hw illogical it is i like the court-room drama.. Let's see whether the cvs are able to maintain the interest or not..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Jb vo divorce 5 days vli bat hui h tb se apni law ki pdhyi ase lgti h ary bhai itte provisions kyu pdhte h ssel k rules n regulations se course kfi easy ho sakti h 😆
logic😲
its locked up n thrwn in a dustbin somwhere whn it comes to finding logic in ssel land
jo dikha rhe h chup chap dekhlo😛

Truly said although
soumo😲 y her trust on suhani looks so uncertain
thxxx to our awesomeraj to tell her enough soumo
seriously whts suhanis fault in all this polic investigation

N those 2 jerks n dadi(i cn tolerate dadi not these two 🤢) n tht loser n my sweethrt turning asshole
bhgwan bchye
n who r birlas to forgiv her
its she on whose mercy should b birlas
manhaani ka case thok do suhani on tht milli😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: maniac_

Anita i knw it's impossible bt i'll TRY to instill some logic in all this...

1. The proof that it wasn't pankaj's blood would prove that there was some other person present in the room... Coz acc to yuvani they're trying to prove that someone else molested gauri nd due to darkness in the rum she couldn't see that person nd blamed pankaj for it.. The blood samples prove this coz they think the glass broke the day of incident..
2. Ur right there were two instances of glass breaking nd i guess krishna broke the window pane...
3. The day police searched the evidence was that the room was in the same condition as gauri said (i knw it's a bad joke...)
4.there were small statements frm yuvraj that gupta ji got the permission frm court for searching the room without any other official so we can assume that they did it after some 'special' permission got frm court..
5. Saumya they are trying to keep her character graph 'constant' coz everytime she gets a chance to distrust suhani she grabs it with both hands.. I was happy that yuvi was going to shut her up bt then mahaan suhani stopped him...

This is the most i could do...😆 bt no matter hw illogical it is i like the court-room drama.. Let's see whether the cvs are able to maintain the interest or not..

I really could not get to the point if Gauri has blurted everything to the police n they too found that the room was as she said then can I assume that Gauri Pankaj n adhe entered the room at different time coz Pankaj n Radhe heard something break but Gauri did not.She did not mention of a thing breaking in the room.How is that possible ,if she was present when Pankaj entered the room she too could have heard things breaking or falling..this is really dumb as she is standing iron clad on the point that she was into the room to change when so called molester had entered n pointed Pankaj..This is literally a non sync😆

If Gupta ji had got the some permission why on earth dos these too ransack the room for proof.It has to be done by lawyer himself with the police.May be they can avail the help of forensic dept. too for checking finger prints.Which law really allows two common civilians to ransack the room where crime has occured.I was really lmao when I saw both searching for evidence.When the lawyer could come to take blood samples of all why not for searching the room.I dont think police had searched room coz if they had done it they would have certainly seen broken article as broken something was used twice

Somya disgusting old too good to be friend..She dosent have faith in her friend ..Its just herself convincing her gut that Suhani is her friend but when she is put to a test she leaves the string n accuses her..poor

But to say a thing when police searched for proof the room was unimaginably untidy.I thought they had spilled the articles purposefully to convince any person that scene has happened😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: AgnesFan

I really could not get to the point if Gauri has blurted everything to the police n they too found that the room was as she said then can I assume that Gauri Pankaj n adhe entered the room at different time coz Pankaj n Radhe heard something break but Gauri did not.She did not mention of a thing breaking in the room.How is that possible ,if she was present when Pankaj entered the room she too could have heard things breaking or falling..this is really dumb as she is standing iron clad on the point that she was into the room to change when so called molester had entered n pointed Pankaj..This is literally a non sync😆

If Gupta ji had got the some permission why on earth dos these too ransack the room for proof.It has to be done by lawyer himself with the police.May be they can avail the help of forensic dept. too for checking finger prints.Which law really allows two common civilians to ransack the room where crime has occured.I was really lmao when I saw both searching for evidence.When the lawyer could come to take blood samples of all why not for searching the room.I dont think police had searched room coz if they had done it they would have certainly seen broken article as broken something was used twice

Somya disgusting old too good to be friend..She dosent have faith in her friend ..Its just herself convincing her gut that Suhani is her friend but when she is put to a test she leaves the string n accuses her..poor

But to say a thing when police searched for proof the room was unimaginably untidy.I thought they had spilled the articles purposefully to convince any person that scene has happened😆


Sri as i said i can jst TRY...😆 Of course all this is insane.. First nd foremost thing is where's the medical test.. I guess it's mandatory for such cases isn't it??? 😕 Nd yuvani searching the room all by themselves was a mockery of law..Also yuvraj was still wearing gloves bt suhani didn't even care to wear them nd was freely flinging things here nd there.. practically this could've destroyed evidence bt no not here...🤢
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Posted: 9 years ago
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When you talk of psy it reminds me of Gangnam style.

Neither read nor watched.

And very glad to have read all of your takes. Thanks, guys.

Ani, this is plain lazy writing. They should at least pick some novels n copy them than do this torture on us. We know they'll wrap it up it some lame way... so we are not even curious how this will unfold because there is no logic, connection or flow. When you take 'whodunit' plots it is obvious you can't be lazy, saas-bahu about it... it needs some pace and interweaving of plots... It's least engaging here. Disappointed.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: anita_m


Gauri looks like she's relapsed into pre-sudden-recovery. She's definitely seems guilty of SOMETHING. I hope. Adi should be beaten up by all the Birla bros, much more violently than Radhe was. Someday. Inshallah.


Saumya, what a friend! Took 10 seconds flat to go back to accusing Su. I'm glad Krishna is going to appear today and that at least won't be stretched from here to eternity.

Looking forward to court scenes again. And looking forward to my normal past-time of catching out cvs. What the heck, I put in the time, if not as much as many of you.



Gauri actually looks like she's in worse condition than she was when they found her in Suhagi. That jittery behavior is rly a put off...Adi seriously should be beaten up by all 4 bros and Pankaj should throw stones at him. 🥱

@Soumya- totally. I'd have cut her off long ago if I was in Suhani's shoes. Can't take that lack of faith in a friend...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: anita_m

I read the WU and I didn't get it. I just saw the episode, and I still didn't get it.

Okay, it wasn't Pankaj's blood. How does that absolve him? It's like proving a negative.

Don't get me wrong. I know Pankaj didn't do anything. BUT we're talking in terms of that monster Logic here. Pankaj was accused. If the police acted on psy's word, and if psy insists it's he who did it, if another witness who was obviously hostile (to the 'proscecution'--I mean Yuvraj's pro-Pankaj bias was clear) admitted Pankaj entered psy's room, then Pankaj cannot be found innocent on the basis of someone else's blood being on glass that was broken AFTER the event, in a room where evidence was contaminated, and where the 'proof' was discovered by 2 people on the side of the defence.

First, there seem to be 2 lots of broken SOMEthing. If something broke when Pankaj heard a noise, why did the police find nothing after making a big deal out of searching the room for evidence? What evidence DID they find? We've already gone over the joke of a sealed room being open for any Tom, Dick, Harry, and their whole families and all their friends to walk through, which immediately makes any further discoveries inadmissible in law.

RagsMen are frustrated cows who should get a life. Preferably together, away from our screens.

Gauri looks like she's relapsed into pre-sudden-recovery. She's definitely seems guilty of SOMETHING. I hope. Adi should be beaten up by all the Birla bros, much more violently than Radhe was. Someday. Inshallah.

Saumya, what a friend! Took 10 seconds flat to go back to accusing Su. I'm glad Krishna is going to appear today and that at least won't be stretched from here to eternity.

Looking forward to court scenes again. And looking forward to my normal past-time of catching out cvs. What the heck, I put in the time, if not as much as many of you.


So much logic Ani... if the Cvs/ writers are lurking about in the forum, unke liye tooo much ho jayega!!
As DU said, this is absolutely lazy writing... don't these people watch anything Criminal Minds/CSI/NCIS?? Anything?

That was my question and fear to begin with..Psychobaby has positively identified Pankaj as the culprit, hence he was arrested without any physical evidence ( room mein toh there was nothing) even as Radhe was let off scot free even after confessing about being in the room to scare Gauri. The blood just proves that other people were there , it DOESN'T prove that Pankaj didn't do it. Infact the only way Pankaj will be absolved is if Psycho baby and Lootera Creep confess!!!! Or Gupta ji manages to prove that because of Gauris mental state and that night ka confusion, Pankaj will have to be let off due to lack of evidence. That will be VERY VERY bad coz the Birla ass ****s will never believe that Pankaj is innocent, the 2 culprits will get away with ruining an innocent man, the shadow of suspicion will haunt Pankaj, Suhani and the Srivastavs will be castigated at every opportunity...and even Yuvraj may turn against Suhani after Gauris crocodile tears... and WORST of all GaAdi will become permanent BH residents... DaRagMen kam the ki aur devils ko le aa rahe ho..

The proof for or against has to be absolute and irrefutable.

And the evidence... that was a joke. Crime scene hai ya Hanging gardens?? Every tom dick and Harry is walking in and out. It's not just law, its common sense...no one has the right to enter a crime scene esp not the interested parties. Any evidence collected this way is automatically inadmissible in court coz it's contaminated. Legal system Gupta ji ka hai kya that he will get special permission for Yuvani? And Yuvraj was wearing 1 kitchen glove, Suhani none...and they were rampaging through the room like two bulldozers... no procedure, nothing... kya hai yeh yaar. CVs...all it takes is a few extras. Unko investigation karte hue dikha dete... of course that would have taken away precious time from Showing DaRagMen and their pearls of wisdom and general inanities that the audience is so fond of..

GaAdi should be thoroughly thrashed and put in prison... I know Gauris mental state yada yada...Lootera creep might have influenced her, but look at the woman's acting skills... this is not some misguided soul..this is psychobaby only...

And Sowmya... If these are best friends then give me enemies anyday... She has the GALL!! Should we remind her of all the crap that she has pulled on Suhani?? Given that, suhani ko toh us par police kya mafia ko chod dena chahiye, uska kharcha pani nikalne ke liye...

But you know what Sowmya, Gauri and Birlas present and future treatment of Suhani is coz of Suhani only... Forgive if you want girl, but never forget...always be careful of such people And for heaven's sake STAND UP FOR YOURSELF like you stand up for everyone else...
I mean that's how her nature is right? She stands up for every bloody tom, dick and Harry but never for herself. Family and their khushi is more important than self respect. Well guess what sweetheart, you don't respect yourself and hence neither will they . Free mein punching bag jo mila hai, they will treat you like shit only... and you, the eternal masochist, will be all. Mera parivar, mera parivar... wake up and smell the coffee...Suhani Devi!!

Ok rant over...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: arch_angel


So much logic Ani... if the Cvs/ writers are lurking about in the forum, unke liye tooo much ho jayega!!
As DU said, this is absolutely lazy writing... don't these people watch anything Criminal Minds/CSI/NCIS?? Anything?

That was my question and fear to begin with..Psychobaby has positively identified Pankaj as the culprit, hence he was arrested without any physical evidence ( room mein toh there was nothing) even as Radhe was let off scot free even after confessing about being in the room to scare Gauri. The blood just proves that other people were there , it DOESN'T prove that Pankaj didn't do it. Infact the only way Pankaj will be absolved is if Psycho baby and Lootera Creep confess!!!! Or Gupta ji manages to prove that because of Gauris mental state and that night ka confusion, Pankaj will have to be let off due to lack of evidence. That will be VERY VERY bad coz the Birla ass ****s will never believe that Pankaj is innocent, the 2 culprits will get away with ruining an innocent man, the shadow of suspicion will haunt Pankaj, Suhani and the Srivastavs will be castigated at every opportunity...and even Yuvraj may turn against Suhani after Gauris crocodile tears... and WORST of all GaAdi will become permanent BH residents... DaRagMen kam the ki aur devils ko le aa rahe ho..

The proof for or against has to be absolute and irrefutable.

And the evidence... that was a joke. Crime scene hai ya Hanging gardens?? Every tom dick and Harry is walking in and out. It's not just law, its common sense...no one has the right to enter a crime scene esp not the interested parties. Any evidence collected this way is automatically inadmissible in court coz it's contaminated. Legal system Gupta ji ka hai kya that he will get special permission for Yuvani? And Yuvraj was wearing 1 kitchen glove, Suhani none...and they were rampaging through the room like two bulldozers... no procedure, nothing... kya hai yeh yaar. CVs...all it takes is a few extras. Unko investigation karte hue dikha dete... of course that would have taken away precious time from Showing DaRagMen and their pearls of wisdom and general inanities that the audience is so fond of..
GaAdi should be thoroughly thrashed and put in prison... I know Gauris mental state yada yada...Lootera creep might have influenced her, but look at the woman's acting skills... this is not some misguided soul..this is psychobaby only...

And Sowmya... If these are best friends then give me enemies anyday... She has the GALL!! Should we remind her of all the crap that she has pulled on Suhani?? Given that, suhani ko toh us par police kya mafia ko chod dena chahiye, uska kharcha pani nikalne ke liye...

But you know what Sowmya, Gauri and Birlas present and future treatment of Suhani is coz of Suhani only... Forgive if you want girl, but never forget...always be careful of such people And for heaven's sake STAND UP FOR YOURSELF like you stand up for everyone else...
I mean that's how her nature is right? She stands up for every bloody tom, dick and Harry but never for herself. Family and their khushi is more important than self respect. Well guess what sweetheart, you don't respect yourself and hence neither will they . Free mein punching bag jo mila hai, they will treat you like shit only... and you, the eternal masochist, will be all. Mera parivar, mera parivar... wake up and smell the coffee...Suhani Devi!!

Ok rant over...



@ red, exactly, don't they watch anything? Right now I'm watching Good Wife and the amount of meticulous research that goes in is commendable. Okay, chalo, these guys are pressured, they don't have much time, they don't have resources. A 5-minute google search will tell them when they're so wrong it's funny.

You got it @ bold, arch, that's what I was moaning about.

@ blue, that was one of my early concerns, that if Pankaj gets off on a technicality, he will still be considered guilty. And for all Yuvraj's being a sweetheart for now, I am expecting him to go mad anytime. I will have to tear out my hair if those 2 go unpunshed, and we know the track record.

What the heck, arch, though I started marking out your gems, finally it's all gems, so I'll leave it alone. Thank you for ranting.

Naina, I salute your attempt, and I get what you're trying to say, but it's pathetic writing. As du says, lazy. Lavina, don't remind me of the divorce, yaar, it drove me mad.

I know, girls, I know, but I'm aadat se majboor.And might as well say it. Who knows, they may be lurking and learn we aren't idiots.

But so far, I've enjoyed the court scenes too. Even when it's for the wrong reason, like the judge being thought of as Queen Elizabeth or someone.
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