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Posted: 10 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: IKEAwizard

I'm going to have to disagree with you, hon. I still think Suhani deserves better than Yuvraj. It's true that people like him do exist and many relationships are imperfect in real life, but within the context of this TV serial, I would prefer to see Suhani get with someone who can be on an equal footing with her.

It's one of the main issues I have with the Suhani/Yuvraj relationship. I've never felt like they were equals. Part of that has to do with Yuvraj's undiagnosed OCD and the other part probably has to do with Suhani's subservience uncharacteristically combined with gumption. They really do not fit well together. I do not think Yuvraj is capable of challenging Suhani the way she does him and I really like to see that in TV relationships - just personally.


Edit: also, Yuvraj can be a man-child sometimes which can be a total turn-off.



@bold- 🤣

Even I think Suhani deserves better. Although, there is not much we can do when she herself has thrown her self-respect under the bus.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Sandi, loved your reply. 👏👏 It's bang on!

For me, the reason I don't want YuvAni is self-respect. Yuvraj and Suhani, both have trampled on Suhani's self-respect. Suhani becomes a lovesick fool with Yuvraj, incapable of rational thought. She is not strong when she is with Yuvraj and turns into a mess. I feel that love should make a person stronger and I just don't see that with YuvAni. I would be able to accept YuvAni had Yuvraj done more to redeem himself, but he is a very weakly written character. Lacks conviction, as I said before. He is perfectly happy being in cruise control and not taking important decisions, which is a big turn off. He is still a boy, not a man.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Agree su deserves better but guy's in marriage if people's chnge lots for u.. here yuvi totally chnge only for su.. Although he didn't admit dis de big thing of yuvi.. but his care towards de su makes me happy..

N ya kl ke episodes me jab yuvi ne bola me issliye gussa hota hoon kyunki tum muje manati ho to acha lagta he.. Me issliye gussa hota hoon kyunki me tumhari care krta hoon.. Tum ho ki samajti hi nhi..

Hmmm he has big problem to admits n express his feelings n same case reflects to dadi also... Here he knows dadi is wrong but he can't show that becoj ge repect her..

Asa hota ne jab hum ghr pr hote parents aur rupees ki values nhi samajh pata but jab hum door jate he to unki valus samjne ati he..

Same case of yuvi... yuvi. N su have grt potential but cvs didn't utilize properly till now..


I want seperation but burning yuvi that mene itne der kyu krdi same he lovs her father but jb tk wo jinda the wo unke pss nhi jata tha but when he died he reliase how much I lovs him kaash me unko ye bol pata...he should realise kash me sab baten phle samaj jata..


Aur yuvi ko takleef me dekher dadi ko jyada takleef ho he reliase ye mene kya krdiya
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Apu, Sandi, Iks, I agree with all of you--I too don't like the Suhani who treats Yuvraj and his bloody dadi with far more respect and humility than either deserves. I was sick of Suhani, and even Yuvraj-Suhani (at that point they didn't give YuvAni vibes at all) up to and including the time he barked at her because she didn't swallow the dadi-did-it-for-us pile of BS.
I get what Sandi's saying. At present, Rohan is the better bet, because not only is he more lively, more fleshed out (though still not enough), he has restored to us the Suhani who was stolen by her subjugation by Yuvraj. At last we can like her again, more often than not.
I agree that Suhani lost her self-respect with Yuvraj. But is her loss of self and self-respect and personality Yuvraj's fault or hers? Given the same circumstances with a different guy, IF she loved him, she would make the same mistake. If she didn't love him, then why bother?
I love RoHani, I enjoy them throughly. I'm just not convinced that they are the answer to Suhani's basic flaw. I think Rohan HAS empowered her, even if she doesn't yet realize he has a thing for her. I just loved it when Menka grumbled that 2 guys were after Suhani (and for rest of her crap, a tight slap). Has Yuvraj been spurred into action because Rohan is eyeing his wife or because he can't bear to lose her? Why did he need that?
I have a sneaky liking for Yuvraj, but I don't want him to win at any cost. There's a LOT to forgive before Yuvraj is redeemed, if that happens. And as I said months ago, if YuvAni means a lifeless, stupid Su or an absolute imbalance, I'd throw Yuvraj away. But here I see the potential for the weights slowly balancing, especially after yesterday. Rohan is the catalyst, not the solution, IMO. If Yuvraj and Suhani can't work, then so be it.
I still don't expect much--Yuvraj is going to revert to obnoxious behaviour. But he has publicly humbled himself, if only under the influence. I still want him to undergo the agonies of hell. He still has to pay the price, and if he does, for me no question which couple I prefer.
I love that we can argue and still not go loco. You ladies rock.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Guys, aren't we all missing an important point here?

How was Suhani with Yuvraj before she fell for him/got married? There was fire then. Because, he meant nothing to her.

That is how she is with Rohan too, right now. Because, he means nothing to her.

If once, she truly loves someone she becomes the submissive one in the relationship.

It's a fault in her that she has to correct. Even Rohan can't do anything about it... and he looks the kind of guy who will be okay with Suhani, if and when she starts bearing his idiosyncrasies too... aren't we treading that path lightly here already?

@Anita: Yuvraj-Suhani: For me though, their personalities have been shown clearly and their need for each other is established.And I have seen their journey as a unit as much as individual.They need to work on their faults... if not, Rohani or yuvani is same.
Edited by drummedup - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: drummedup


Guys, aren't we all missing an important point here?

How was Suhani with Yuvraj before she fell for him/got married? There was fire then. Because, he meant nothing to her.

That is how she is with Rohan too, right now. Because, he means nothing to her.

If once, she truly loves someone she becomes the submissive one in the relationship.

It's a fault in her that she has to correct. Even Rohan can't do anything about it... and he looks the kind of guy who will be okay with Suhani, if and when she starts bearing his idiosyncrasies too... aren't we treading that path lightly here already?

@Anita: Yuvraj-Suhani: For me though, their personalities have been shown clearly and their need for each other is established.And I have seen their journey as a unit as much as individual.They need to work on their faults... if not, Rohani or yuvani is same.


@bold- I agree with this. The main difference between YuvAni and RoHani is that Rohan is more of a mature guy. So, I would prefer him. Actually, I would prefer any guy over Yuvraj.Don't care much about who it is. As for Suhani, she has turned into Gopi Bahu. Your analysis is on point, DU. Suhani becomes a doormat in love (be it platonic or romantic). This is a personality flaw in her. I would prefer her alone or with someone other than Yuvraj.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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@clarity:
If Yuvraj doesn't change then I'd rather Suhani builds a life for herself. The kind of mindset this girl has, she needs to go out in the world, face all those ups and downs and gain some perspective. I am not too thrilled on the idea of moving into another relationship, given her personality traits. That can wait.
It's exactly opposite for Yuvraj... he needs to stop being so arrogant and start displaying some positive emotions... in his actions, in the way he treats her...most importantly standing up for what he believes in. For Suhani or not, he needs to stop being a wuss ASAP. Yesterday's episode showed what he is deep inside... but that no longer is sufficient, he needs to bring it up to surface and hold on to it.

Basically, these two have to go in two opposite directions in the world and take a course in life.

Rohan: My only problem with this guy is I don't know him. Good or Bad, I'd like to know a person fully... and it takes time to know them well. And I sense some muddled undercurrents about him...an eerie sense in the back of head types? Also, I wish he becomes someone who gives her a perspective rather than worshiping her. Which is why, I liked what he was saying in the precap. He is getting her to think.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: anita_m



But samcek, neither su nor yu's love has burned particularly hot, so far. In fact, it's been noted for being too tepid, too unarticulated, too unknown. Chemistry, yes, but chemistry isn't love.

Of course Yuvraj is no prize, but I've usually seen him as basically a good person, even kind, covered in layers of ego. He hurts, but I feel he often lashes out as a defense, often his behaviour is a means of interaction (which was confirmed in yesterday's episode) because he cannot openly ask Suhani for her attention and affection, even though that's always on tap. I know it doesn't speak well for him, but I have a sneaky suspicion that he intends to hold her by his silly carping. And he does see her goodness--he's said it often enough. He's even told her to never change.

I think for all of us, Yuvraj's biggest flaw is his silence when Suhani or his mother or Sharad are treated like shit--and not just by BQ. Then again, I recently saw an episode du recommended, where he does stand up to BQ for her--whatever his motive--and I was surprised for 2 reasons: how he told off BQ and what he said. He said that BQ picks on Su for every little thing, but doesn't see or say all the good things she does. And isn't that true for Yuvraj too? I feel his standing up for Pratima/Su gets zero results long-term, maybe only increases BQ's hatred for them, so he's taken the path of least resistance. It's not right, but it's not quite so unforgiveable. Don't the other brothers behave the same way?

Though he has praised Su, tried in fits and starts to make her feel better when she's down, shared with her what he's told no one else, even (finally) beaten up someone who insulted her, he's inconsistent ('cause cvs don't want it that way) and often too indifferent. But he's grown a little, now I believe he will suffer seeing Rohan horning in, he will suffer if she leaves, but he's still to proud to acknowledge why, so he'll lash out at her, dig his own grave.

Rohan has personality, a career (but isn't he just sitting around doing nothing too? No pending cases? No clients?) and success (or so we're told). He lights up the place. I love his behaviour with/onbehalf of Suhani, but actually it's his too-soon love which is in greater danger of burning out or tipping over into obsessiveness. And isn't he conveniently blind too? Supposed to be so sharp he can read people, how can he miss the difference between BQ's false claims of sympathy for Su and how she treatsher, speaks to her, addresses her?

I guess I'm hoping eventually Yuvraj does deserve Su.


With his slow character development, it will probably be by sometime next year 😆

This is the same Yuvraj who, rather than just TELL dadi he didn't want to marry Soumya, went along with it. Yes he corrected it at the end, but by that point the damage was done. No woman should EVER have to deal with that, it made a joke of the sanctity of marriage. And why? Because Yuvraj was too immature to tell his damn dadi that he didn't want to be with Soumya and he wanted to show Soumya the right path... Is that guru title going to his head?

I know they haven't actually had their "love" yet. But by the time they get around to it everyone will have lost interest because its been dragged out for sooo long.
Honestly, If Suhani was a normal woman, she would be fed up with his crap by now, and would have probably given an ultimatum. Leave this house and be with me, or keep being poisoned by your family members.

Dadi is an evil witch, that much is true. But if Yuvraj would just actually sit down with the whole family at once and say "guys, this is my wife, i'm not interested in getting a divorce, if you love me than can you let us sort this out" than she'd have no excuses left. I'm not saying she'd stop her nonsense, but hey, at least she'd have no excuses left for when she's caught.


As for Rohan not working, perhaps thats the curse of Birla House. They should write "Abandon all hope ye who enter here" above the front door!

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: samcek


With his slow character development, it will probably be by sometime next year 😆

Yuvraj was too immature to tell his damn dadi that he didn't want to be with Soumya and he wanted to show Soumya the right path...Is that guru title going to his head?

I know they haven't actually had their "love" yet. But by the time they get around to it everyone will have lost interest because its been dragged out for sooo long.
Honestly, If Suhani was a normal woman, she would be fed up with his crap by now, and would have probably given an ultimatum. Leave this house and be with me, or keep being poisoned by your family members.

Dadi is an evil witch, that much is true. But if Yuvraj would just actually sit down with the whole family at once and say "guys, this is my wife, i'm not interested in getting a divorce, if you love me than can you let us sort this out" than she'd have no excuses left. I'm not saying she'd stop her nonsense, but hey, at least she'd have no excuses left for when she's caught.


As for Rohan not working, perhaps thats the curse of Birla House. They should write "Abandon all hope ye who enter here" above the front door!


@Blue: 🤣🤣🤣😆

I SOOO agree with you about the bits in bold! I remember Clarity lamenting at the fact that they destroyed him the day he started playing plan-plan. There were one or two instances before where he showed potential... and had largely been a no-nonsense guy...but ever since that Soumya track started it had been a downward spiral for him. Redemption is long, arduous process for this guy. Most of us gave up on the show till Rohan came into picture. It is already quite late, IF they want to redeem Yuvraj, now is the time or never.

And business: Why isn't Yuvraj going to office? Or others?Even Rags holds a position,right? Only Anuj seems to be working... he gave the news of business booming again. I laughed yesterday when Yuvraj called her lazy... if she is lazy, what is he? She atleast slaves away in kitchen!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: drummedup


Guys, aren't we all missing an important point here?

How was Suhani with Yuvraj before she fell for him/got married? There was fire then. Because, he meant nothing to her.

That is how she is with Rohan too, right now. Because, he means nothing to her.

If once, she truly loves someone she becomes the submissive one in the relationship.


Totally agree. I'm fully aware of this. I loved the earlier episodes where Suhani was in her jeans, dancing around, making fun of Yuvraj, hanging out with her BFF, falling in love, etc.

I feel like Suhani has lost part of herself along the way, but we see a glimpse of who she used to be when she's with Rohan, which is probably why Rohani appeals to so many here.

The show has many problems, and the YuvAni relationship is just one of them. Both Yuvraj and Suhani have their faults. What bothers me though is that Yuvraj tends to get away with his flaws in the relationship and more often than not takes advantage of Suhani's submissiveness instead of supporting and encouraging her to be independent. So, in this relationship Suhani is the one who's expected to adjust whereas Yuvraj just does whatever he wants.

It just doesn't seem healthy for Suhani. Rohan on the other hand, is different from Yuvraj in one fundamental way: he likes Suhani just the way she is. He doesn't try to change her and if they were in a relationship, I'm sure he wouldn't do all that "rok-tok." He's just along for the ride. I love that about him. He's also a much more mature and self-actualized man than Yuvraj is, which I feel makes him a better fit for the fiercely independent Suhani.

You could argue that Yuvraj likes the Suhani the way she is too, but I feel like Suhani has had to do way too much on her part to get Yuvraj to that place.

Man, I don't know. I just feel like Yuvraj is that old insecure high school boyfriend who never really figured out what he wanted to do with his life and Rohan is the guy you meet at college or professional school or whatever who knows who he is, has ambition, and seems more like marriage material.


Edited by IKEAwizard - 10 years ago

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