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Posted: 10 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Sonarikafan


what??????????? no no no apurva, you are the heart of this forum.
you cant leave us.



Sona, thank you so much! 🤗Well, I'll just paraphrase someone else and say that "I don't wanna come to this forum because of all the negativity". 😆😉

This post has really hurt me.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: clarity



<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">I love you too, Zainy, and I'm sorry if I ever said anything to hurt you. 🤗 I am just offended and hurt by this post, 'cause she is directly criticising other members and me. It doesn't feel good.

*Hugs from me too*
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No Apu you have never said anything to hurt me and that is why I love you so much , cause you never intend to hurt anyone 😃

And you BETTER not leave ok

I think her post has hurt a lot of members and quoting people is not right. It is pretty pathetic.
Cheer up !! ❤️
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Posted: 10 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: zainy215



No Apu you have never said anything to hurt me and that is why I love you so much , cause you never intend to hurt anyone 😃

And you BETTER not leave ok

I think her post has hurt a lot of members and quoting people is not right. It is pretty pathetic.
Cheer up !! ❤️



Thanks Zainy. I don't want to leave Zainy, but obviously, it's hard to remain unaffected when people call you out directly and accuse you of 'spreading negativity' and 'spoiling the show for others'. It's hurtful.

I won't mention the names of the people she has directly quoted, but I think we all know who they are. They are beloved members of this forum and I love them a lot. It's not nice to see their remarks being 'made an example of'. I am hurt on their behalf too. 😔

Also, if this forum wasn't 'positive', I assure you Sonarikafan wouldn't be here. How would we feel if he made a post that he doesn't feel welcome on the forum 'cause of what we say about Somu? We have always been an open and accepting forum and I can see that changing, unfortunately.

I will cheer up. 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: clarity



<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Thanks Zainy. I don't want to leave Zainy, but obviously, it's hard to remain unaffected when people call you out directly and accuse you of 'spreading negativity' and 'spoiling the show for others'. It's hurtful.

I won't mention the names of the people she has directly quoted, but I think we all know who they are. They are beloved members of this forum and I love them a lot. It's not nice to see their remarks being 'made an example of'. I am hurt on their behalf too. 😔

Also, if this forum wasn't 'positive', I assure you Sonarikafan wouldn't be here. How would we feel if he made a post that he doesn't feel welcome on the forum 'cause of what we say about Somu? We have always been an open and accepting forum and I can see that changing, unfortunately.

I will cheer up. 😳
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You are so sweet Apu !! 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
#25
U have offended me. Instant of quoting evry1 u should have just said every1s name. This forum I am not talking about the AT(coz as I was told ATs are for appreciation and basically if got nothing to say dnt comment there and I respected the person who told me that coz she told me straight up what she felt. This forum has always welcomed open discussion and views this was not a fanbot forum. If we liked something we appreciated whole heartedly if we didn't we whole heartedly showed our disapproval of it. As I said in my last post on the forum I had not read the summary(next time I watch a show I will be sure to do as u said so I wnt get disappointed and feel that the show is showing something diff to what I think it should be shown) of the show I read it ab a month or 2 ago. if I had read it I would not have watched this show or even come onto the forum coz watching a woman being man crazy and degrading for entertainment purposes is not my cup of tea . I had watched this show on tv and watched it thinking LOGiCALLY with the sort of issues they brought up and with what was being shown what would be shown. I dnt believe in watching something brain dead and then discussing I do not knw hw a person can do that bt they do and that's ok coz that's hw others are wired so cool. Bt Logically for me if I watch something I expect something. This show isn't a movie which is 2 and a half hours and ends. This is a show that is shown for half an hour 6 days a week. If u coming onto a forum each and every day discussing it u get connected to it, to the characters and to the show as a whole. And whoever believes that the audience does not influence the writers of the shows u are dead wrong why did every1 even bother to tweet if that was the case. Do fans really think that the less souyma scenes is coz the cvs who showed that character for 17 min in a 21 min show every second day suddenly developed brains? Please its coz every1 tweeted for her to get lost, every1 tweeted for yuvraj when he had less screen time and wasn't being shown. More so if this show is meant for entertainment purposes then if there is a certain section of the fans who are not enjoying then their thoughts should also be considered. We all made posts for yuvraj showing our dissatisfaction at his character even though the yuvani scenes where much better back then . I did not read comments ab us being too negative back than. Now when fans are supposed to show their dissatisfaction with suhani's character bt coz fans are getting to see more yuvraj we all supposed to go brain dead. Coz we dnt want the cvs to go back to not showing him. I am sorry that I expected suhani to be more than a maid this is not the character that I watched for nearly 8 months and enjoyed. And when we call her maid and servant dnt take literally coz this forum the fans here are extremely intelligent we are not disrespected a woman who looks after her family or a woman who is homely there is absolutely nothing that is wrong in that. This show makes it seem wrong and woman who do that seem as if they are stupid. Suhani is acting unnatural and I am a hardcore suhani fan and I bash the things I love if they wrong. She was shown as strong, as powerful and some1 who knew from right and wrong I dnt knw who they are showing now. And another thing I am going to categorise fans who are dissatisfied with the show as suhani, yuvani(hope I dnt offend any1) bt not once did I see them go onto posts where fans who are enjoying the show and ask them how are they enjoying a yuvani where suhani is not present. And neither have they come onto posts which have been critically where we are sharing our views and told us to stop. Let positivity reign all hardcore suhani fans, and viewers with a brain are leaving so u wnt see negative comments anymore. Quite frankly u shouldn't have called us out like this its very wrong we have for the last couple of weeks been slowly disassociating ourselves from the forum and show and yesterday for me personal was the last time that I thought of myself as a fan of this show.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#26
@clarity

Firstly, thank you for taking your time out to respond to me, and honestly I appreciate that you are openly not afraid to voice your thoughts because I prefer it when people are straightforward with me.

The reason why I put "I don't mean to offend .." is exactly because of the way you have responded to my post. I used those quotes from a different topic because I was giving examples of the things that made me unhappy and I don't see anything wrong with giving evidence. My aim was not to DIRECTLY attack you or anyone, if I was I would have listed the names of the people who wrote those things but why would I do that to begin with?

I never said that my way is the RIGHT or WRONG way, they are your words. I never thought of it nor did I suggest it. I never said you are attacking us who have different points of views from you. I never said that anyone should 'sacrifice logic' while watching this drama. I know people watch dramas to gain realism.

I don't understand how my post is positive or negative, it is neither. The way you are allowed to put your thoughts on this forum, why can't others? The one who is being directly attacked is me but I am not going to respond back the way you have, because I never intended on starting an argument nor will I continue to let it go on. I understand why you have become so worked up, and I have read the way people have responded to you saying you are the "heart of this forum" so clearly you mean a lot to them, and saying anything to you will get everyone else upset.

There is nothing wrong with being a fan of something, it doesn't make them 'blind'.

When you say stuff like "How DARE you", "Thank you for making US feel like it's waste of time" "If you have a problem with posts, you just ignore them, not attack the preferences of members who make them." "Why should all of us necessarily agree with you?" how do you think that makes me feel? I could have simply gone and posted what I did on the topic I got my quotes from but then I thought, 'If I write there it will hurt their feelings and they would think I'm bashing them, it may also be disrespectful', so I decided to make a new topic.

I appreciate that you disagree with me but then why attack me? Again, I never said that you guys are spreading negativity, nor did I say I'm spreading positivity. You are saying one thing and then doing the exact opposite. I am not offended but I am hurt because that was my first ever post on this forum and your response makes me feel like I'm the outsider who shouldn't have a say. I have read many of your reviews of episodes and there were stuff you wrote that I agreed and disagreed with but I have never responded to you the way you have to me.

I don't mind what you wrote, you are not wrong in your place. It's the WAY you wrote it which is hurtful.

Now you are saying that you don't feel welcomed so you will not make posts any more. That is not fair for the people who like you and like reading your stuff, you shouldn't make them feel bad just because you are upset, angry, offended and dislike me. We don't even know each other. To me you are a random stranger, as I am to you. But these people actually like and respect you so you should set an example and not "bash" me.

I'm sorry for hurting your feelings and offending you. I'm sorry for upsetting your friends, and I'm sorry for using direct quotes from a separate topic. I didn't realise that what I was doing is classed as 'bashing', because it was not intended to be a bash topic. I do not expect nor want you to agree with me. I respect your opinion and I hope you respect mine too.

I am also sorry to everyone reading this who have been offended by anything and everything I have written. I hope you all can forgive me.

Jaleela
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Nice post I know all feel the same.. But everyone has different views and they are allowed to express them..
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Posted: 10 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: sandiab

U have offended me. Instant of quoting evry1 u should have just said every1s name. This forum I am not talking about the AT(coz as I was told ATs are for appreciation and basically if got nothing to say dnt comment there and I respected the person who told me that coz she told me straight up what she felt. This forum has always welcomed open discussion and views this was not a fanbot forum. If we liked something we appreciated whole heartedly if we didn't we whole heartedly showed our disapproval of it. As I said in my last post on the forum I had not read the summary(next time I watch a show I will be sure to do as u said so I wnt get disappointed and feel that the show is showing something diff to what I think it should be shown) of the show I read it ab a month or 2 ago. if I had read it I would not have watched this show or even come onto the forum coz watching a woman being man crazy and degrading for entertainment purposes is not my cup of tea . I had watched this show on tv and watched it thinking LOGiCALLY with the sort of issues they brought up and with what was being shown what would be shown. I dnt believe in watching something brain dead and then discussing I do not knw hw a person can do that bt they do and that's ok coz that's hw others are wired so cool. Bt Logically for me if I watch something I expect something. This show isn't a movie which is 2 and a half hours and ends. This is a show that is shown for half an hour 6 days a week. If u coming onto a forum each and every day discussing it u get connected to it, to the characters and to the show as a whole. And whoever believes that the audience does not influence the writers of the shows u are dead wrong why did every1 even bother to tweet if that was the case. Do fans really think that the less souyma scenes is coz the cvs who showed that character for 17 min in a 21 min show every second day suddenly developed brains? Please its coz every1 tweeted for her to get lost, every1 tweeted for yuvraj when he had less screen time and wasn't being shown. More so if this show is meant for entertainment purposes then if there is a certain section of the fans who are not enjoying then their thoughts should also be considered. We all made posts for yuvraj showing our dissatisfaction at his character even though the yuvani scenes where much better back then . I did not read comments ab us being too negative back than. Now when fans are supposed to show their dissatisfaction with suhani's character bt coz fans are getting to see more yuvraj we all supposed to go brain dead. Coz we dnt want the cvs to go back to not showing him. I am sorry that I expected suhani to be more than a maid this is not the character that I watched for nearly 8 months and enjoyed. And when we call her maid and servant dnt take literally coz this forum the fans here are extremely intelligent we are not disrespected a woman who looks after her family or a woman who is homely there is absolutely nothing that is wrong in that. This show makes it seem wrong and woman who do that seem as if they are stupid. Suhani is acting unnatural and I am a hardcore suhani fan and I bash the things I love if they wrong. She was shown as strong, as powerful and some1 who knew from right and wrong I dnt knw who they are showing now. And another thing I am going to categorise fans who are dissatisfied with the show as suhani, yuvani(hope I dnt offend any1) bt not once did I see them go onto posts where fans who are enjoying the show and ask them how are they enjoying a yuvani where suhani is not present. And neither have they come onto posts which have been critically where we are sharing our views and told us to stop. Let positivity reign all hardcore suhani fans, and viewers with a brain are leaving so u wnt see negative comments anymore. Quite frankly u shouldn't have called us out like this its very wrong we have for the last couple of weeks been slowly disassociating ourselves from the forum and show and yesterday for me personal was the last time that I thought of myself as a fan of this show.


As I said before I haven't been watching SSEL for that long so I don't know anything about his screen time.

I never said you are wrong, and I have apologised already for offending everyone. If I listed the people then that would have been a direct attack. I was never attacking, never intended to, never wanted to. I knew people would be offended so I apologised in advance. I didn't expect I would get this kind of response from you and clarity. If I did I would never have started a topic stating my opinion whether people agree or disagree with me.

But at the same time I do not feel like I am in the wrong. Just like you guys are saying what you feel, why can't I?

You see a weak Suhani, so many of you see a weak Suhani. I don't.

I see a broken hearted Suhani who is so confused with her life right now. I can understand why she didn't leave the house. I wouldn't. Why should she? She was never in the wrong, she is the daughter-in-law, that house is hers as much as it is everyone else's. She is hurt and upset but she loves her family. Say you were hurt, upset, betrayed, broken, would you leave the place with out trying to figure stuff out or would you face it head on? Suhani's character is supposed to be strong, and she is in my mind because she is facing the truth.

When Yuvraj spoke to Suhani, telling her everything, telling her he doesn't want to be with Soumya and not wanting to split up from her. If someone I truly loved said those things to me, I wouldn't want to leave him. I would stay, fight for my right and try to make my relationship work. Every relationship has hurdles.

You guys think that Yuvraj doesn't value Suhani, he doesn't treat her right. I don't see that, and the biggest evidence was the fact he believed SUHANI over his dadi. He wants his dadi to understand and appreciate Suhani, what did everyone expect? Him to fight with his dadi? He loves and respects her a lot, he wouldn't do that.

The plan to marry Soumya to make dadi realise why Soumya isn't good seems really silly to me too. I don't see the point of that, but at the same time I understand because dadi would think that he is being manipulated by Pratima so he isn't thinking straight.

Having them split up track is not the best way either, that happens in so many other dramas. We all know that there WILL eventually end up being a split up track, but is now really the best time?

This was my opinion of the current track. It is neither right nor wrong, it is simply my perspective.

Again, I'm sorry for hurting and offending you.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: jaleela

@clarity

Firstly, thank you for taking your time out to respond to me, and honestly I appreciate that you are openly not afraid to voice your thoughts because I prefer it when people are straightforward with me.

The reason why I put "I don't mean to offend .." is exactly because of the way you have responded to my post. I used those quotes from a different topic because I was giving examples of the things that made me unhappy and I don't see anything wrong with giving evidence. My aim was not to DIRECTLY attack you or anyone, if I was I would have listed the names of the people who wrote those things but why would I do that to begin with?

I never said that my way is the RIGHT or WRONG way, they are your words. I never thought of it nor did I suggest it. I never said you are attacking us who have different points of views from you. I never said that anyone should 'sacrifice logic' while watching this drama. I know people watch dramas to gain realism.

I don't understand how my post is positive or negative, it is neither. The way you are allowed to put your thoughts on this forum, why can't others? The one who is being directly attacked is me but I am not going to respond back the way you have, because I never intended on starting an argument nor will I continue to let it go on. I understand why you have become so worked up, and I have read the way people have responded to you saying you are the "heart of this forum" so clearly you mean a lot to them, and saying anything to you will get everyone else upset.

There is nothing wrong with being a fan of something, it doesn't make them 'blind'.

When you say stuff like "How DARE you", "Thank you for making US feel like it's waste of time" "If you have a problem with posts, you just ignore them, not attack the preferences of members who make them." "Why should all of us necessarily agree with you?" how do you think that makes me feel? I could have simply gone and posted what I did on the topic I got my quotes from but then I thought, 'If I write there it will hurt their feelings and they would think I'm bashing them, it may also be disrespectful', so I decided to make a new topic.

I appreciate that you disagree with me but then why attack me? Again, I never said that you guys are spreading negativity, nor did I say I'm spreading positivity. You are saying one thing and then doing the exact opposite. I am not offended but I am hurt because that was my first ever post on this forum and your response makes me feel like I'm the outsider who shouldn't have a say. I have read many of your reviews of episodes and there were stuff you wrote that I agreed and disagreed with but I have never responded to you the way you have to me.

I don't mind what you wrote, you are not wrong in your place. It's the WAY you wrote it which is hurtful.

Now you are saying that you don't feel welcomed so you will not make posts any more. That is not fair for the people who like you and like reading your stuff, you shouldn't make them feel bad just because you are upset, angry, offended and dislike me. We don't even know each other. To me you are a random stranger, as I am to you. But these people actually like and respect you so you should set an example and not "bash" me.

I'm sorry for hurting your feelings and offending you. I'm sorry for upsetting your friends, and I'm sorry for using direct quotes from a separate topic. I didn't realise that what I was doing is classed as 'bashing', because it was not intended to be a bash topic. I do not expect nor want you to agree with me. I respect your opinion and I hope you respect mine too.

I am also sorry to everyone reading this who have been offended by anything and everything I have written. I hope you all can forgive me.

Jaleela


Well, I also prefer it when people are straightforward with me and honestly, it would have been better if you just said you disagreed with us on that post.

I know what I said was hurtful and I'm sorry about that. I just felt that your words needed to be reversed to make you understand how it feels to be on the receiving end. I don't think you did this on purpose, but just due to a lack of awareness of what the IF Code of Conduct is.

You have to know that what you posted wasn't right. You say the post was neutral, but if you are telling us that our posts were negative, then maybe you should consider why we are offended by your post.

@bold- Your whole post implies your way is the right way of watching, 'cause you're saying our way of watching is 'negative'. You directly quoted members' statements and then criticised them, and that is not allowed on IF. You accused us of 'spreading negativity' and 'spoiling the show for others'. You said we 'nitpick' and that we don't 'need to fill the forum with this negativity'. Are you seriously saying you don't understand why one would be offended by this post? 😕 Are you saying we should not feel attacked by this?
This is bashing, according to the IF COC. You can't bash other members. We have only ever criticised the show, but I never criticised the members sitting behind their computer screens-- till today. You criticised the people behind the computer screens- REAL people- for a fictional show. That hurts. I've never done it till today.

If SO many people are offended by your post, it's probably 'cause it is offensive. None of my 'negative' posts ever got such reactions, 'cause I never brought members' and their preferences into it. I never criticised the people behind the screens and you have done that, and so have I. I accept it and I'm sorry. You have basically called out everyone who doesn't like the show and made them look like idiots by making a spectacle of their preferences in front of everyone.

How did my replies make you feel? My intention was to make you aware of how it feels when the gun is pointed towards you.

Also, the reason you never responded to my reviews the way I responded today is because NEVER have those reviews ever called OTHER members out. You should take responsibility for what you wrote and acknowledge that it was offensive. There's no harm in doing that, as I've acknowledged my replies were VERY STRONGLY worded and I've apologised for that. I just wanted you to realise how it felt to be called out like that.

Again, my replies were hyperbolic and intended to make you understand how reading your post made us feel.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I don't believe that I have been personally attacked here. I'm sorry if my post ever hurt anyone's sentiments but I'm not taking my words back. I posted what I felt because I have my brains right so I have a perspective to see things and nobody is going to tell me what I need to post or need not to post. The whole purpose of the forum is to put forward our views and when I respect others POV then I expect the same in return.
You are directly quoting few of us with the statutory warning no offence meant, how convenient is that. Atleast I never bashed anybody or made any personal attacks.
People who are liking the track are free to post their views and so do I. I for one started watching the show with some expectations and when I saw things turning dirty and women being portrayed in a wrong way, I decided to voice out my opinion. And I don't find anything wrong with that. When noone tells me stop posting when I'm appreciating a particular track, then noone is going to tell me to stop posting when I'm not liking something that's shown in the show. That's the whole point of having this forum. There had never been any intention of spreading negativity as if my saying anything would change others' perspective. I hope I'm clear. With this I'm outta here.

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