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dunceHat

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Posted: 10 years ago

STATUTORY WARNING! YOU ARE ENTERING SOMBRE ZONE!! MIGHT GIVE YOU BORED VISION!! 😆😆 IF YOU ARE YU_FAN, IT MIGHT GIVE YOU GLARED VISION😆😆

Beginning of YU post-mortem (leave alone his character, and his recent tha tha, tha and all that)

Now that step by step revelations happened very very slowly for Suhani! what next?

Step by Step revelations for Yuvraj even more slowly LOL...So we have plenty of time to research and do bit by bit analysis.

PRE-MARRIAGE YU!

No matter whatever even SU's dad admits, (Pratima admits, Ragmen schemes, Snakey slithering etc etc)

It's my strong belief that it is impossible for a strong headed guy like YU to bend unless he chooses to do so. His ego did not permit him to acknowledge, but somewhere he knew that SU is not part of the conspiracy right from before the wedding. He read Soumya's letter, crumpled and threw it away. How does he expect her to be part of some conspiracy to get married off to him? Just How?

By then itself he saw that she was not any despo-sicko girl dying to get married to him. Sub-consciously hi sahi, he knew that SU cannot be blamed!

He married, not for love. True. But he did not marry out of any external pressure is also just as true.

I think he married as a reflex reaction to rejection and that too in such a demeaning way where his supposed lady-love sprinted and married off a driver ka beta without anyone getting an inkling of it including her best friend! He knew RagMen manipulated the situation just for getting back at him and for cheap entertainment too AND he also realizes that Soumya is never going to be his reality.

In business, if Birlas(as the serial claims is a known business-family in Allahabad), if not this bank where SU's dad manages, another bank would give loan- if they had a decent proposal and collateral (Birla House); which is what SU's dads' bank did too! YU was not born yesterday and is not fresh off college to not know this!

He wanted to feel better about himself. So, he did this sacrificial goat number on everyone around him. If he wanted, he could have speed-dialled the then deah-ol-Dadi and ask her to bulldoze-clear the loan and postpone wedding date OR just tell what happened to dadi (by then his mom already left it to him to decide) or

[CVs did a weak script on a prime point thinking only clueless people are gonna watch it!(How dare you underestimate your audience CVs?)]

So, I'm not buying this YU-victimized logic one bit. Yes, Even after SU's papa's confession! Period.

Dadi-drama, Pratima's confession etc. etc. don't even figure in YU's scene.

Marriage it was, for SU! But for everyone else at BH, it was either an experiment or timepass entertainment and for YU the marriage was a stop-gap ego-trip and a vent to his anger!

Until the reality hit him full force, the reality of being a married man, he wasn't even aware of the magnitude of his decision and the colossal stupidity he was capable of!

In reality, it was a deal made between 2 grown men and YU never kept his end! and fact is SU's dad undersold her off in this deal...Sorry for speaking about marriage in terms of striking a deal. But the fact of the matter was just that!

In all this, SU has been completely, brutalized- her every thought, action, emotion, faith & trust in each and everyone the past many months were nullied practically overnight! SO...in all this sympathy for YU? go to hell!

POST MARRIGE YU - THE SODARAGMEN ERA!!

Look at the phenominal list of things:

Soumya threw herself at him on New Years' and later clarified that she did it full-hosh!

Soumya minced no words when she declared that she loves him and that he too loves her! Thank god someone is there to decide for DEADWOOD YU as to who he supposed to love! Stupid guy instead of saying "darling snakey! if you din't tell me, how will I ever know this great truth? Let's kick SU out and then totally do our romance-thingy and poses!" He pretends he cares for SU but never once told snakey that what he felt for her was in the past!

N-opportunities came by. He again pretends! Then he again pretends!

Most things happened directly in his presence AND directly to him -snakey trying to hug, declare love, hold hands, always trying to pull him out on her work and away from SU;

Snakey never suggests anything to make SU happy nor does she says anything in SU's favour leve alone praise!

Snakey never suggests- let's all go together. A supposed friend has n-excuses to avoid SU and that too in SU's house, while she sucks up to her in-laws! All this would ring a bell in the utmost idiots heads,especially if that house guests hoists herself for months and refuses to leave even when her mom comes to get her

YU saw that when directly asked to leave too, Snakey did a pretend move to ashram and manipulated SU to get her straight back to BH. By this point, he clearly knows and saw that snakey is a SNAKE!! We as audience have seen in second hand but he as YU is the one who FIRST HAND saw and experienced all snkeys revolting overtures towards him and acts against SU! One daldal pretend-rescue can't undo all of this! NOT even for deadwood!

He directly saw that snakey never supports her best friend no matter what and in many cases pour oil in flames and chugalofies to dadi like the accident, holi colors, holi dahan etc.

Somu instead of spending even little time with SU other than barging into the room mannerlessly even without knocking only to interrupt when she thinks something might work out in SU's favour.btw, YU never tolerates this of SU even and he made SU's life hell wrt trivial things in his room before!

Snakey is always closeted with RAGMEN and DADI!! Nature of this troika may be relatively new to SU, but not to YU. They are part of his SICK family filled with such EVILNESS even before SU came into BH and YU and the Birla-men are all only too are aware of this!!

YU is pretending he cares for SU and avoids all confrontations with his dadi, his bhabhi, his ex-flame, his friend, his mom.

The same guy who never minces words when even when he spots the slightest "daag', and the man who can't tolerate slightest bruise to "HIS" ego, thinks it's perfectly alright and sees nothing wrong when in all this months when

SU is called 'aye ladki" by his dadi n times every day

SU is treated like shit by Rags; even Menka at times

SU is yelled at and abused by permanent camper Snakey

SU is called "jungle kaheen ki" on the way to picnic after she had the most horrid experience. Yu saw that instead of comforting SU, she is pulled and her so-called dost refuses to leave even a car seat for her. "So, YU are you also blind to not see any of this?"

are the CVs expecting audience to go blind?

SO, now you guys know-all too or are updated too! SO, Don't let the CV-persons go off easily. They better use every bit of LOGIC, INTELLIGENCE and FABULOUS SCRIPTING to unravel the future episodes!

👏👏👏THANK YOU😳 for finally reaching till here 👍🏼 GOAL!

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clarity

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Posted: 10 years ago

Dunce, Res means that I'm reserving this post to edit it later.

Pre-Marriage Yuvraj: I do not think his marriage to Suhani was because he wanted a balm for his ego, not at all. He did everything in his power to avoid the marriage and the CVs have been quite clear in letting us know that he bent to Pankaj's pressure. It was a decision made under duress, though a way out was available- tell Suhani the truth and get out of it. Yes, he had alternatives, but he choose to not go for them. Talking about legal recourse, we know it exists, but the CVs would rather pretend it doesn't and that's the route they took. TBH, education doesn't matter at all on TV shows. Yuvraj could be a Nobel Laureate, and still not know what to do. 😆 So, I think he did agree to the marriage due to pressure, and he didn't want Suhani at all. I don't think he did it as a rebound.

Post-marriage Yuvraj: Okay, Yuvraj, you didn't love Suhani, but once you found out that she was not involved in blackmailing you, you should have realised she's the biggest victim in all this. He let Dadi pick away at her self-esteem daily, was nasty to her and put the marriage in neutral, just because he wasn't ready to make a decision. His indecision could be understood if it lasted a short while, but once it started making Suhani suffer, it was 👎🏼. If he didn't want to be married to her, he should have just told her and put her out of her misery. She wasn't just subject to Yuvraj's indifference, but she had to deal with Dadi's invective as well. His inaction has hurt her the most- by exposing her to Dadi's offensive. One mistake he definitely made was not telling Soumya outright that he doesn't love her. For some reason, the CVs have not made him do it. 😕 His behaviour towards her at times encouraged her delusions and IMO, after she saved Suhani, he could just have been polite and formal with her, instead of becoming her BFF. 🥱

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Posted: 10 years ago

*MINE*

Bahut bada aur deep lag raha hai therefore bahut soch ke comment karna padega! Handkerchief daal rahi hoon. 😆

Edit add:

Originally posted by: dunceHat

PRE-MARRIAGE YU!
No Dunce, I don't buy this ego-trip/ rebound marriage at all. Firstly, their loan was stuck with Suhani's dad's bank! He never showed enough interest in his family business that he would understand business intricacies well. It's not Yuvraj, it's creatives lack of better excuse to get him married to Suhani rather than any vanity in Yuvraj's character! If he had to marry for his ego he would've married a better-looking girl than soumya, why would he go for suhani?

POST MARRIGE YU - THE SODARAGMEN ERA!!
Look at the phenominal list of things:
Soumya threw herself at him on New Years' and later clarified that she did it full-hosh!
Soumya minced no words when she declared that she loves him and that he too loves her! Thank god someone is there to decide for DEADWOOD YU as to who he supposed to love! Stupid guy instead of saying "darling snakey! if you din't tell me, how will I ever know this great truth? Let's kick SU out and then totally do our romance-thingy and poses!" He pretends he cares for SU but never once told snakey that what he felt for her was in the past!
N-opportunities came by. He again pretends! Then he again pretends!
Most things happened directly in his presence AND directly to him -snakey trying to hug, declare love, hold hands, always trying to pull him out on her work and away from SU;

This actually is the point from where his ego trip started! He practically enjoyed the attention of two girls for a brief period. He gloated at how much Suhani loved and revered him. She massaged his ego regularly and Soumya's confession indeed put a crown on his head. It proved right in his head that what he always thought all along was right - he was the better man for Soumya.

I also never understood why he openly never told her that- I no longer love you! Many opportunities like you said... but here also(other than creatives appetite for drama, thus making Yu scapegoat) he probably could not say it because the hurt from her betrayal was still RAW. He still felt bad at her rejection and he still hated that she cheated him for Krishna! He confused his feelings of hurt and betrayal of 1st love as still being in love. This is a very real thing that happens to lot of people! He was never put through such treatment, so his ego could not let it go, so he assured himself that he still felt something for her where as it was because of something she did to him.

YU saw that when directly asked to leave too, Snakey did a pretend move to ashram and manipulated SU to get her straight back to BH. By this point, he clearly knows and saw that snakey is a SNAKE!! We as audience have seen in second hand but he as YU is the one who FIRST HAND saw and experienced all snkeys revolting overtures towards him and acts against SU! One daldal pretend-rescue can't undo all of this! NOT even for deadwood!
He directly saw that snakey never supports her best friend no matter what and in many cases pour oil in flames and chugalofies to dadi like the accident, holi colors, holi dahan etc.
Somu instead of spending even little time with SU other than barging into the room mannerlessly even without knocking only to interrupt when she thinks something might work out in SU's favour.btw, YU never tolerates this of SU even and he made SU's life hell wrt trivial things in his room before!
Snakey is always closeted with RAGMEN and DADI!! Nature of this troika may be relatively new to SU, but not to YU. They are part of his SICK family filled with such EVILNESS even before SU came into BH and YU and the Birla-men are all only too are aware of this!!
Remember the kind of people yuvraj lives with. So, these kind of cheap tactics to him are a part of personality of Soumya. Which is why he fell out of love with her. He no longer likes her by this point. It might be difficult for Su and us to see it like that but to LIVE among such people and constantly experience such things you'll automatically lower your bar for bad. I'm not endorsing his behaviour here but I can understand where it comes from. But he was sensible enough to accept it about her and trying to move on from her.
YU is pretending he cares for SU and avoids all confrontations with his dadi, his bhabhi, his ex-flame, his friend, his mom.
First impressions are hard to let go of in Yu's case! He cares for Soumya because he felt she had been through terrible times in personal life. But his way of showing it was giving away all wrong signals. I did not like that either. I think still inherently, even though he no longer wants her, he wants to keep it intact in her head that he was the best and she lost her chance with him by her foolishness. A dangling of carrot!
The same guy who never minces words when even when he spots the slightest "daag', and the man who can't tolerate slightest bruise to "HIS" ego, thinks it's perfectly alright and sees nothing wrong when in all this months when
SU is called 'aye ladki" by his dadi n times every day
SU is treated like shit by Rags; even Menka at times
SU is yelled at and abused by permanent camper Snakey
Well point here is, we never saw Soumya getting ill-treated by evil gang. So, if dadi screams at Soumya what would he do? He'll shut up there also. As we saw in dadi's b'day party. He cared two-hoots about dadi's treatment of soumya! calling her baharwali and all that. Atleast for Suhani he felt bad though he did nothing. It is a fault in him that he doesn't do anything Irrespective of the person! Or he would've stood for Pratima long ago! Who is more important to him than the girls! Here another important fact is Yuvraj NEVER loved Suhani. So, his POV of suhani and Soumya will always be different till he falls for Su (even though he no longer does feel for soumya)
SU is called "jungle kaheen ki" on the way to picnic after she had the most horrid experience.
Isse jaane de! That was b/w friends! He could do nothing! Su was so in love with So then. Kya bolta?😆[but his lack of reaction at her traumatic experience was the worst thing Yu ever did! no excuses, there! Is it because he considers Su not good-looking iss liye the ched-chad she said was routine teasing?]
Yu saw that instead of comforting SU, she is pulled and her so-called dost refuses to leave even a car seat for her. "So, YU are you also blind to not see any of this?"
or
are the CVs expecting audience to go blind?
SO, now you guys know-all too or are updated too! SO, Don't let the CV-persons go off easily. They better use every bit of LOGIC, INTELLIGENCE and FABULOUS SCRIPTING to unravel the future episodes!
This has my 100% vote too! 👏
👏👏👏THANK YOU😳 for finally reaching till here 👍🏼 GOAL!
Nice post Dunce! though we as usual disagree on Yu in certain places! 😆

Edited by drummedup - 10 years ago

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sandiab

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Posted: 10 years ago

dunceHat I freaking love u what a post, take a bow fabulous. I never thought of yuvraj marrying suhnai as a boast to his ego. Although I might hav in the beginning bt I had no1 to talk to back then so my thoughts where limited. Bt u are so right and I think even after marriage he has loved the way she has stroked his ego. I will come back later and add something bt I think u have nailed this fool to the ground with this post. Bt I would like to know your thoughts as to his chartacter since the party and what u think mindless is up to. Bt really brilliant post throughly entertaining I dnt knw hw u could even doubt that we wnt finish it.

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dunceHat

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: sandiab
dunceHat I freaking love u what a post, take a bow fabulous. I never thought of yuvraj marrying suhnai as a boast to his ego. Although I might hav in the beginning bt I had no1 to talk to back then so my thoughts where limited. Bt u are so right and I think even after marriage he has loved the way she has stroked his ego. I will come back later and add something bt I think u have nailed this fool to the ground with this post. Bt I would like to know your thoughts as to his chartacter since the party and what u think mindless is up to. Bt really brilliant post throughly entertaining I dnt knw hw u could even doubt that we wnt finish it.

I practically sprained my fingers today IF-ing and more IF-ing. Whenever I say I'm going to leave, I seem to chip-ko more...so not gonna say it.

Toying with YU and rambling about Yu earlier in the day in other posts; at that point I guess I was feeling lazy to give full blown go at it.

n finally did it!

THANK YOU 😊!

😆 just took that bow too

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dunceHat

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: drummedup
*MINE*

Bahut bada aur deep lag raha hai therefore bahut soch ke comment karna padega! Handkerchief daal rahi hoon. 😆

as in *TOWEL* giving up? np told ya..it's gonna be tadder than tad long! 😛

if n when u feel upto it DU, mez 🥱 sleepy too!

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415868

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: dunceHat

as in *TOWEL* giving up? np told ya..it's gonna be tadder than tad long! 😛

if n when u feel upto it DU, mez 🥱 sleepy too!

I edited my post with reply! When you are up for it, grab your sword! 😆

btw, handkerchief daalna matlab place reserve karna. They do it in public transport/buses in India,😆

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arch_angel

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Posted: 10 years ago

Well he is somewhere in between, swinging like a pendulum... kabhi is taraf kabhi us taraf... 😃

No wonder all of us are confused. CVs khud hi itne confused hain toh hum kis khet ki mooli hain :)

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anita_m

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Posted: 10 years ago

Hey, dH, great post, many great points,.
Re Yuvi being blackmailed by Pankaj, I have always said that was something he could've resisted. There are other banks, he could've complained about undue pressure, and (this is also in response to du) it's not like aaj shaadi nahi ki then the birlas would immediately be on the road, because there are avenues for redressal and options. But I haven't read anything (relying on WUs for those episodes) that justifies your opinion that he chose to get married to Suhani because he subconsciously thought her blameless. And rebound I'd have swallowed if it were his kind of girl. Suhani was palpably not, he thought her unworthy in every possible sense. IMO, it was a necessary plot device is all.
Post-marriage, no argument about how he often stayed mute when the gang went for Suhani, or his moronic acceptance of snaky's sudden reformation, coupled with the way he treated Su while being snaky's saviour. But again agreeing with du, he could've felt vindicated at snaky's overtures even when he was resisting them. In fact I think I'd mentioned that in some post. It can be sweet revenge when the ex-object of your affection, especially one who rejected you, does a turnaround and wants you and you no longer care. So again I agree with du--that's where his ego came into play.
I have a real problem with Yuvraj ignoring all the signs of snaky's snakiness after they made up, starting with that sick valentine day's gift. I hated the way he acceded to her every oily wish and neglected, relegated, or downright insulted Su, because he definitely knew su's worth 10x10 of snaky. Again, that was his ego, his selfishness (snaky made him feel important by constantly stroking his ego) , and maybe a resurgence of his old attitude that pretty beats good. But in the same vein, Suhani was partly responsible. SHE too ignored the signs, most especially how snaky lit up at everything yuvraj and treated her like shit. Same about snaky cosying up to BQ and gang and su left to face their taunts and scheming--how did su never wonder at how her "best friend", her "sister'" could do that? And when she ignored every suggestion that snaky be banished, including scuttling yuvraj's achievement of getting her to leave (and, once he knew snaky was safe, telling su to leave her be, which our dumbelina not only ignored, but told snaky quite differently) . So, in befriending snaky, not only did he think he had got through the threat she presented and was relieved and therefore overdid it, but he also thought su would approve.
I cannot and do not defend Yuvraj's bad behavior or even his inaction, indifference or plain stupidity. He's been pathetic much of the time. I would hope there's some background to at least show us the why, but that's not happening from what we've seen of cvs' mindset. So now, just hope things move along with less rubbish saazishen and more positive interactions between su and yu.
"SO, now you guys know-all too or are updated too! SO, Don't let the CV-
persons go off easily. They better use every bit of LOGIC, INTELLIGENCE and
FABULOUS SCRIPTING to unravel the future episodes!"
Can only hope, dH!

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dunceHat

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: anita_m
Hey, dH, great post, many great points,.
Re Yuvi being blackmailed by Pankaj, I have always said that was something he could've resisted. There are other banks, he could've complained about undue pressure, and (this is also in response to du) it's not like aaj shaadi nahi ki then the birlas would immediately be on the road, because there are avenues for redressal and options. But I haven't read anything (relying on WUs for those episodes) that justifies your opinion that he chose to get married to Suhani because he subconsciously thought her blameless. And rebound I'd have swallowed if it were his kind of girl. Suhani was palpably not, he thought her unworthy in every possible sense. IMO, it was a necessary plot device is all.
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Can only hope, dH!

NOT even implied...NO!

I'll post the back drop of the mangni-wedding scenario for you Anitams and scoot!

See in that context, if it makes sense as to what I meant!

EDIT ADD: Here's the link https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/suhani-si-ek-ladki/4341582/su-yu-wedding-recap-paging-anitams

Edited by dunceHat - 10 years ago