Suhani & Soumya

I said the same thing on another post..Soumya is unforgivable and irredeemable as a friend.. She is worse than Dadi, Rags and Menka in so many ways.. Heights is she still not feeling an ounce of guilt about her acts.. All she is trying is now to somehow hide her truth from Suhani..I mean how low of her to still not realise her wrongs.. She is no grey it's all black now.. Hate her.. Rajshri was brilliant today.. Wish Neha would take some lessons.. She was again giving conatipated expressions in such a powerful scenes..

Originally posted by: Bul3

I said the same thing on another post..Soumya is unforgivable and irredeemable as a friend.. She is worse than Dadi, Rags and Menka in so many ways.. Heights is she still not feeling an ounce of guilt about her acts.. All she is trying is now to somehow hide her truth from Suhani..I mean how low of her to still not realise her wrongs.. She is no grey it's all black now.. Hate her.. Rajshri was brilliant today.. Wish Neha would take some lessons.. She was again giving conatipated expressions in such a powerful scenes..

Elita!

Originally posted by: dunceHat

Elita!

Agree with most of what you said except that "there's no love" part!

reagarding SU n YU- There may not be actual physical love, but there was a lot of care, concern for each other and tender and tentative moments. There's always that sense of comfort and the comsum-part is just a matter of time - waiting at the opportune moment to happen.

and it's clearly shown time and again that Yu and SU care for each other and it's not a one way traffic anymore here (almost since vrat and clearly during Diwali episodes)

Snakey understood this and deliberately indulges in wishful thinking and deludes herself into seeing what is clearly not there. She fools Dadi and Rags that Yu is STILL in love with her!

Snakey, was shown to be jealous of the camaraderie that Yu and SU shared. She clearly knows by now, that Yu moved on from his initial obsession for her (whether or not he loves/likes/cares/whatever for his wife is another matter)

Snakey knows that "there IS love"

I think snakey is foolish in a way and is pursuing Not-Yu but her own Jealousy...She clearly wants her friends' relationship with her husband to be spoilt and is insanely jealous at the rapport they seemed to share

"aisa mujhe lagaaa...😛" as Menka says

Originally posted by: Elita

dunceHat...when Soumya re-entered Suhani's life...Yuvraj was showing off his concern as love to make snaky jealous...she saw right through it and also gave it to him. Yuvraj also accepted that his marriage with Suhani was his "majboori" which Dadi too heard and all this mess started. So according to Soumya...Yuvraj was a good human and hence was showing concern and care to Suhani...but "love" he was with her only. And it is this she started to exploit along with Dadi...and there were few instances which supported her belief.

But they were also clues where Yuvraj showed Suhani meant something to him and he always acknowledged her as his wife with no qualms...but this fool refused to believe. And

This is what I tried to convey...

Yuvraj is now a changed person...but snaky doesn't believe it, as she still connects him to the same person she had first met. She cannot accept rejection nor face reality.

hmmm...partly yes...Yu did try to make snake J ...but by then itself he started to care (may be not love) for Su and accepted the fact that she's for keeps. He ditched the idea of sending her off after the loan sanction as originally planned by Diwali-time irrelevant to SOmu's BH-entry!

At the garba he overdid this possessive hub bit for soumya's consumption...but his care and concern for SU when soumya wasn't around, was still intact.

He has fallen in love with Suhani- of that I have no doubt.

The only thing that remains to be seen is how he overcomes his conditioning that "fair is lovely".

He may come to realize that expression for love be it physical or otherwise has nothing to do with complexion but with feelings! He is at present combating feelings in order to conquer his conditioning wrt to complexion! otherwise, it appears like he accepted for a fact that Su is his companion for better or worse (in short -wife) and shows the husband styled haq-jatana (even when others are not around)

dadi n snakey are both working on a past premise whereas Yu clearly moved on and away from feelings for Snakey and is now into suhani ( be it room-matey love, or whatever it is- Yu accepted

Originally posted by: dunceHat

hmmm...partly yes...Yu did try to make snake J ...but by then itself he started to care (may be not love) for Su and accepted the fact that she's for keeps. He ditched the idea of sending her off after the loan sanction as originally planned by Diwali-time irrelevant to SOmu's BH-entry!

At the garba he overdid this possessive hub bit for soumya's consumption...but his care and concern for SU when soumya wasn't around, was still intact.

He has fallen in love with Suhani- of that I have no doubt.

The only thing that remains to be seen is how he overcomes his conditioning that "fair is lovely".

He may come to realize that expression for love be it physical or otherwise has nothing to do with complexion but with feelings! He is at present combating feelings in order to conquer his conditioning wrt to complexion! otherwise, it appears like he accepted for a fact that Su is his companion for better or worse (in short -wife) and shows the husband styled haq-jatana (even when others are not around)

dadi n snakey are both working on a past premise whereas Yu clearly moved on and away from feelings for Snakey and is now into suhani ( be it room-matey love, or whatever it is- Yu accepted

Su for good-of that I have no doubt at all!

The doubts I have are wrt Su's feeling if at all!

Simulatenously interesting is how Su deals with his past feelings for ex-bff-Snakey

SU's the one who admired Yu prior to marriage; but never in her dreams thought of him as her possible life-partner initially!

Her love for Yu is a reciprocation of what she thought as Yu's love for her(as snakey manipulated)! So, once she finds out that all the overtures from Yu before the marriage were towards Snakey and she was trapped as a victim of circumstances, what her response will be remains to be seen!

How Yuvraj convinces her that he does love her NOW and that she's whether or not she likes is his wife! IMO, How and whether - after what journey she accepts him as a husband for real -is the real deal in this story ( I HOPE :)

Beautiful post Eli I am gona start with Souyma watching the scene it was literally like Suhani was with a wall/sounding board where she was just venting against this wall and it didn't make any difference. The cvs have totally gone off with Souyma's character I truly feel sorry for her 1 fan coz she is just a shallow hole there is absolutely nothing there. And with this scene the fact that they didn't allow Yadav to bring any sort of emotion and remember any of her love for Suhani to her character they have finally annihilated her character totally. There didn't allow a redeemable quality to come through in this scene. All u saw was snaky stuttering and saying Suhani, Suhani, Suhani that's all she did and she had 1 expression total boredom. I watched the episode the 1^st and was just blown away by Rajshri that I didn't really notice snaky at all that's why I was quite happy whilst others were extremely disappointed with what they saw bt than I watched it a 2^nd time and I totally get why the scene was a disappointed. Rajshri was so good but she might as well have been acting alone.

The cvs over thought snaky's whole process to falling in love with yuvraj but the main thing they forgot back than was Suhani's somu and again today they forgot that major ingredient to her character her love for Suhani and that makes her unredeemable. Even if she remembers her love later on it wnt matter coz they destroyed this character and no1 is truly interested in watching her being redeemed. Because this was a moment which should have defined her a little bit of her love for Suhani should have come out but all u saw was a person wanting to save face and not wanting her true face to be seen. The Suhani and Bhavna scene was a very telling scene of her putting up a front.

Now coming to her ,dadi and ragmen 4 woman deliberately setting out to destroy 2 marriages for me the biggest sin was snaky disrespecting her own marriage, her 2^nd sin was disrespecting another person's marriage. And I wnt include the fact that was her best friends marriage because it does not matter whose marriage it was she disrespected a marriage and for that I am sorry irredeemable. I have no problems with snaky moving on in life even if she was still married that's her prerogative but she should have done so respectfully. Dadi again I am gona say she was rectifying a wrong that Suhani's dad committed and she used the best weapon she could find which was Souyma. I know lots of u will disagree but I dnt have a problem with dadi that much coz she even though she dislikes Suhani for her color her main reason for doing this is coz she loves Yuvraj and feels like she is doing it to give him what he lost out. But for me ragmen and souyma are bad coz 1 souyma whatever she did she did it coz of status, money and power, Rags she tried to ruin 2 marriages coz of her ego and vainness. And Menka even though loveable is not a strong person she is doing everything so she becomes likeable and acceptable and she is a very intelligent person she knows what's right and wrong but prefers to be an airhead to be a follower. Out of all 4 ladies the only person's action who is acceptable in my book is dadi because a tiny of her stone heart did it for her grandchild.

Now Suhani what a performance by Rajshri simply fantastic that WHY' was so powerful, her expression, her anger, her pain, her feeling of stupidity was so beautifully convened. They say if u can't do u appreciate and for me acting, singing and dancing I am a total fan of and when I see such a breathtaking performance I am flawed. And Rajshri was simply fantastic what a mature performance not over the top, u didn't see 10 minutes focus on a person eyes and ott expression she was just subtle perfection. I loved when she grabbed snaky and then she was pushing her away it was so awesome and she called her ladki and she used it in such a demeaning way and how I wish that she would remember how she said that to snaky when dadi calls her that coz that word is an insult. I think what I loved the most was the restraint in Rajshri performance coz if u think about it Suhani would be mentally prepared to take on Snaky coz she knew this was a possibility so u didn't see big emotions from her she just wanted answers and so it was beautifully portrayed. I loved the attitude in Suhani very proud of her she is woman I truly hope that we continue to see her like this. For me there was such a disconnect from snaky that it didn't matter that she is staying there or not. But the control that Suhani has over herself is a bit scary coz its very diff from Yuvraj whose emotions come out when he is angry, through anger he expresses himself but he isn't in control and so meanness comes out. But Suhani is very much in control and she knows exactly what she is saying what she is doing and so her meanness when it comes out I do feel bad for Yuvraj she is gona shred his heart and stomp on it.

And I agree with duncehut that snaky even be4 dadi could plant stuff in her head wanted Yuvraj she recognized when he was faking his feelings for Suhani and when he wasn't and the minute she felt him being genuine she wanted his attention back on her and she started getting personal with him and confiding in him.

No person can plant a thought in any1s head a person only acts on it if it was always there.

But really I am extremely happy coz I have been extremely mean about neha/souyma and I have always said this she needs to go and be killed off she has no place in the story line and I think finally every1 is thinking like me loving Apu she truly rocked twitter with her somu hate lol. but really guys can I just say it I told u lot she was useless I dnt knw why her acting surprised any1 today lol.

Let's take an opinion poll as to who'z the worst Sandia

Elita, Bul, dunceHat, Sandi, what wonderful posts. Among the 4 of you, you have covered every point, I think.
Applause.