sita haran really necessary ???

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Posted: 9 years ago
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was sita haran so necessary 4 ram raavan war , was there no other way 4 ram raavan war. well as I analysed d situation I find without sita haran also ram raavan war would had happened coz ram Lakshman were continuously killing various asurs who news was coming 2 ravan.
minusing d curses given 2 lord Vishnu & devi lakshmi
what say.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I remember once while pondering over the story it suddenly struck me that why was Sita haran necessary for Ram avatar ? Isn't it wrong ( on the side of gods) to use a lady as a means to finish ravan off ? Why make her go so many hardships ? Couldn't there be any other way to propel the story or make events happen ?
But then after some time I read valmiki's Ramayan. It never ever treated Ram as an avatar of Vishnu. Valmiki's Ram is a part of history and not mythology if I say so. He's somebody who rose to the stature of God by living an exemplary life. So if u see this way whole scenario changes. Sita haran is not a reaction or answer to how Ravan should be killed it is in fact an independent , sudden incident which evokes a reaction i.e the war and ravan's end.

Other versions which treat Ram as an avatar have their own reasonings. Some say that Ram though God incarnate had no knowledge of his divinity and the purpose to accomplish which he had taken birth. Then during vanvaas he made a promise he wouldn't kill a demon unless provoked. So gods were in a fix. After that crow incident they realised that pain to Sita is something which can infuriate him to no end. So they created such circumstances that ravan kidnap Sita.

I like valmiki Ramayan over other versions any day.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shliya


But then after some time I read valmiki's Ramayan. It never ever treated Ram as an avatar of Vishnu. Valmiki's Ram is a part of history and not mythology if I say so.


I do not agree with this.

While it is true that Valmiki treats Ram like a human, at the same time it never denies his divinity.

In fact, after Ravan's death, the Gods appear in front of Ram and praise his deeds. Lord Brahma tells Ram that he is Narayan himself, and Ram says that he did everything as per human life, to teach humanity how to behave in troubling times.

Valmiki never denies Ram's divinity. He just writes him like a human, that's all, but it's a popular misconception that in Valmiki, Ram is not divine. He is, he just hides it.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I don't think divine and God have to be synonymous. You are very right valmiki's Ramayan never denies his divinity but at the same time it emphasises his journey as s human. And that's the point. Ram in valmiki Ramayan is maryada "purushottam" not God incarnate. Because valmiki needs an ideal man who can exemplify how a human should live. I'm not denying that Ramji was God , I'm just saying that his qualities that he encompassed as a human led him to become God. All events in his life as per valmiki Ramayan were not orchestrated. Nothing was preplanned. Everything happened naturally independently and Ram & Sita simply responded ideally.
I'm don't mean to offend any view. We all look at Ramayan from our own perspective. No one knows the actual true story. Recently I have been reading many articles from journals online ; literature scholars and historians have proved that even the valmiki Ramayan we have today is full of interpolations ( there are many places where they a difference in language or structure) mostly these uttar kand verses and the verses where Ram is called Vishnu. Bcoz valmiki never really treated Ram as Vishnu.

Again I'll say, Ramayan is an epic which allows us to be flexible, take the story as we like. Each of us see it in a unique way. I like to see Ramji as somebody who was born human but became God bcoz of his exemplary life. It provides more scope for humanity in my view. We don't have to be born God to lead a life that is morally, ethically, socially correct but such a life surely leads to God.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Valmiki Ramayan shows Ram's journey as a human setting an example for others to follow. He accomplishes only those things which a human can attain with perseverance. He goes through all the emotions a human go through.
It shows how a human can walk right path even when provoked to great extend. Ram gives multiple options to avoid war.
His treatment to Angad and Tara after Balivadh. His treatment of Guha and Sabari. His perseverance in crossing the ocean for his loved one are exemplary.
Vishnu and Lakshmi has created this beautiful love story with their Maya where a man lifts a dhanush to win the woman's hand as per the condition set by her father, a man crosses the ocean to deliver on her faith and keep her honor above his and becomes Siyaram for his most trusted sevak Hanuman.
It is the story of a woman who trusts the man to fulfill her father's condition, even in extreme hostile conditions stand firm just with his name on her lips deriving strength from his love, walk the path of separation without complaining for his duty while doing the duty of a queen and a mother in raising their sons
It is the story of 2 individuals who go through trials and tribulations yet remain one in each other's heart. Nothing written before or nothing written after can match the beauty of Ramayan.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

was sita haran so necessary 4 ram raavan war , was there no other way 4 ram raavan war. well as I analysed d situation I find without sita haran also ram raavan war would had happened coz ram Lakshman were continuously killing various asurs who news was coming 2 ravan.
minusing d curses given 2 lord Vishnu & devi lakshmi
what say.



What I feel is that there can be reasons for Sita Haran , It really depends how you want yourself to relate to the ramayana

Like , If Sita wasnt captured , the people would never have been able to see the journey of Rama , who turns into A maryada purshottam , even in killing the asurs and Raavan , there is sense of Justice and Dharma involved , and then how these events later lead to complications when sita is exiled for the second time , but still both their love for each other never diminishes . Rama being a king first , gives more importance to praja than his wife ( although this part its upto the reader as to he gauges rama's character ).

Sita's haran also kind of showed the power of a pious woman , inspite being alone in ashok vatika with demons hovering around her , Her resolve was quite a standout for everyone to witness.


Secondly , a more research based approach to that Haran will be the curse that Lord Vishnu recieved of being having to be separated from his wife , or the option choosen by the dwaarpals of vishnu to have been killed by the lord himself .

So u see there are many reasons , depends what u follow
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