SKR:Of loops and symbolisms: 25/03- P.142-TRUTH

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Srutha

@SriMaatangi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#1101

I've read this too 😊

Our Krishna has a lovely way of showing people the truth. Instead of being harsh to them, He teaches them their lessons by using examples. What Krishna does, no one else can do. He is ❤️

To be like the gopis in the end should be our aim. Praying to Krishna makes it easy, somehow.

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avalonhigh1234

@avalonhigh1234

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Posted: 9 years ago

#1102

What a beautiful episode.The word 'hinduism' means people who lived near the river Sindhu.It is not a religion but is considered as a way of life. We have the duality aspect, the non-dualism aspect and even the atheist has his place and say in it. The conversation between Jabali and Ram highlights this, doesn't it?Jabali represents all the times when we ,unable to accept god's will and enmeshed in our own turmoils, question everything -why are we going through this pain in our life? why is he punishing us?Ram is the answer to them all?I am the one responsible for this choice. My path is the path of truth for me.It could be tough,full of unforeseen challenges,failure,unhappiness,but I will walk it with dignity and resolution.I look upon this as both my duty and responsibility.I will not have any resentments for the people and the situations that led me to make this choice.

No wonder Jabali says that even if we humans follow one iota of Ram's values,Our society would flourish beyond our imagination.You are right Janhavi it brought the ghost of future to the fore-the last scene between Ram and Ravan.The mutual respect for each other and the realization of Ravan.

The contrast between Ravan and Ram was highlighted again today.Ravan was taking over a kingdom which was not his right only to feed his ego whereasRam was giving up his right to rule his own kingdom for truth.

Savita

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#1103

@Savitha thank you dear. Yes I have got some idea on Vaishnavi Maya. That feeling of love without expectations and anything you get from your loved one is happily taken.

@DD you have wonderfully analyzed the episode. Yes we saw different truths today or rather the intrepretation of truth for various people. But one key thing we need to know that irrespective of various perspectives Ram and Jabali respected each other( I will make individual post on Jabali's line selfishness will win) .

And on the other hand truth of Indra and truth of Ravan were different and Ravan believes his truth is right and attacks the other person, take the ownership of his kingdom.

When you respect other views a you flourish, when you think your path is only the right one you start self destruction

Once again CVs brilliantly portrayed the difference between Ram and Ravan. Centuries later Ram resides in the heart of people, and Ravan people would prefer to get rid of him.

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suppss77

@suppss77

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Posted: 9 years ago

#1104

Beautiful post Janhavi...truth...but at the end you made me confused...with so many truths and questions...phew...but I loved it...😃😆

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Ankita.11

@Ankita.11

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Posted: 9 years ago

#1105

Your analysis is 'wow!" 👍🏼and your questions have seriously left me confused...

You are so correct...Each person has their own definition of truth.Whenever we see life from someone else's perspective we believe in that..but the question is what is the real truth and who is to decide that??

And regarding your view that,praja doubted Sita because Ram asked her for agnipariksha is in a way true.We all must have see such examples in our life also.Only a small spark is needed to create fire and that fire can destroy a whole forest.

But,then if everything is maya...what was the real motive behind agnipariksha?Was it to teach a lesson to the common man that a small doubt is a dangerous thing??And again by sending her away wasn't he in a way confirming their doubts...

P.S:Sorry,I hardly contribute to your analysis but always irritate you with my questions.!😛

Edited by Ankita.11 - 9 years ago

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daydreamers

@daydreamers

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Posted: 9 years ago

#1106

Supriya, Ankita

Pls clarify what's the confusion? 😆

Pin point what is confusing.. Cz even I was muddled up while writing so ur exact questions may help me to understand my own post and clarify your doubts...

Bring it on 😎

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#1107

Ankita certain aspects only time will answer. That's the biggest truth. Coming to Agnipareeksha I guess it is always better to wait and discuss about it later. Because now if we discuss we might not reach the essence.

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Srutha

@SriMaatangi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#1108

Let me add my two cents to the agnipariksha:

In my point of view, the agnipariksha was done not because Ram did not believe in Sita Ma's chastity; he did it to prove to the world that she was chaste and pure, and hence fit to be Ayodhya's queen. Tongues wag all the time. To prevent people from thinking Sita was not chaste, Lord Ram did this. Yet, people didn't believe their Queen's chastity. As Raja Dharma comes first, Ram sent her away to live in the forest.

In some versions, it is said that hearing Ram's cruel words, Sita Ma defiantly walked into fire, which she asked Lakshman to build. And there, Agni Deva brings the real Sita out. This is Tulsidas' version. I think what Valmikiji wrote was that it was Sita Ma's chastity that showed her chastity. There was no 'chaya' Sita.

So basically, if anyone asks me, the agnipairkisha was done for Sita, and not against Sita.

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daydreamers

@daydreamers

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Posted: 9 years ago

#1109

Srutha, I know about agnipariksha that we have been told through Ramayana...

My questions are based on that single dialogue...

"Yatha raja tatha praja"

If u have read my previous posts i have this outline- analysis on the basis of direction, dialogues and connectivity. Then title description and at the end a question..

If am extremely moved by any dialogue or scene I add that as a point to ponder...

Cmn to my question for yday as I said it is solely on the basis of dialogue.. By questioning I mean to only see what will be in skr.. The questions aren't an analysis but a speculative take... Which cvs have to take care of... Once again it might be ignored by them plainly.. No issues...

But I found the dialogue deep...

Just like I had found "netra kholo mandodari"

So it is a mere projection of the dialogue... It may be or it may not be...

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Srutha

@SriMaatangi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#1110

I know.

"Nethra kolo Mandodari" is a very powerful, symbolic line. It signifies literally Mandodari's entire life.

"Yatha raja tatha praja", also defines Ram's life.

I get what you're saying. I gave my ideas on the agnipariksha because you all were discussing it. I'm pretty sure we will have long discussions about that later.

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