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Posted: 10 years ago
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Very nice discussions are going on.
As far as I can see, Kaikeyi is not trying to remove Ram and replace him with Bharath on the throne but she is trying to punish that MAN who insulted her feminity and also of her 2 sisters. She was not interested in making her biological son the future king but she is adamant to teach a lesson for that person who forgot to stand by his words. She is not forcing her queenly rights on Ayodhya but is trying to avenge that person who called her maternal home as a threat to his family and dismissed her brother like an insect on his plate of sweets. She very well knows that whatever she is doing is wrong but the hurt induced by her husband of whom she had loved through out her life is so deep that even this revenge looks too small to her. She is trying to remove RAm from the race for the throne for a simple reason, Dashrath, her culprit loves him immensely and even a small scratch on Ram will hurt Dashrath and she has taken a slow and steady route to induce pain to her husband, the father her son who went against the belief of people on his Vansh as " a Raghuvanshi will always defer to his words" by turning his back to the words he had given to her father. Had Dashrath told her the truth about his promise to her when she questioned him, she would have accepted that ram is their elder son and he shall succeed. But the way king Dashrath behaved in a knee jerking way by dismissing her brother with a threat and then diminishing his wives (all the 3) as nothing and his sons would have been born anyhow (as if even without his wives to bear them in their womb) was too harsh. Added to this she still think on the betterment of her state and its people and that is the reason she ensured that Bharath is properly trained and attained the capabilities required for a King, so that in her bargain with her husband, Ayodhya shall not be affected by having an inefficient ruler. She could not compromise on the quality of a Raghuvanshi king, hence she made up her mind to paqrt with her son for 8 long years, so that he is in par with her son Ram, and could rule the state even in the absence of his brother. She not only ensured him to learn warfair arts but also ensured that he is not dependent on his elder brother for all his moves. kaikeyi didn't forget her duties as a mother and also as a queen. All her acts were of an wounded woman whose existence was questioned and hence is like wounded tigress who is waiting to avenge her prey and here the prey is none other than her husband. To teach him a lesson for life, she doesn't mind, if she has to hurt her sons and sisters in that process.
But the case of Chandrabaga is totally different. She was never a queen (in real sense) to begin with nor she had undergone the pain of a peasant who suffered due to drought for 12 years, Being a royal family member (wife of the prince), she had no shortage on food or clothing's and water. So doesn't know the meaning of famish or starving. She might not even have been affected by not having kids as her main aim was to become a queen. So Sita's birth had not affected her so much as it affected the peasant lady. While king Dashrath gives 100% credit to the puthrakameshti yaga for the birth of his sons, Chandrabhaga may not give that credit to Sita immensely. However, just because she thought of her daughter's marriage point that she doesn't love Sita or she doesn't treat her as her daughter. her worry is just that every human on the earth may not treat Sita as a child given by GOD or mother earth. If Rajashri Janak sent people to search for Sita's parents (claiming that a child wrapped in fine cloth can just arise from earth on its own) so that the child be handed over to them, we can't expect others to think her as Devi or something. So during the alliance matching, for sure people will pin point her birth details and say that since her origin is unknown, show reluctance to accept her as their family bahu. easy to say than done. That is what she expressed here, about her doubts and not her intolerance. And who knows, if not for maharishi Vishwamithra who made Ram participate in the Swayamvar and fixed Sita's alliance with Ram, even king Dashrath would have raised his apprehensions. Even in today's world it is difficult to get a match fro an adopted child into a respectable family, if the child was adopted from some NGO or adoption Centre and not among the family. So it was expected at that era.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Jaya: Nicely pointed out the mindset of kaikeyi and chandrabagha. But what I felt is why chandrabagha didn't consult with her husband or sunaina about sita's marriage? If not to any prince atleast a try for sita's match?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Very beautiful post Jaya. As usual you bring all the practical aspects of relations in your posts. I have also told the fact that Kaikeyi has to be given the credit of training Bharath so that people of Ayodhya doesn't suffer and the difference between Ram's decision to go to vanvass to honor his father's pledge and Bhishma's decision to make Satyavati's kids heirs of Hastinapur differs. Many say Ram did this, but nobody bothers to see the circumstances under which Ram did it.
When Ram decided to go for Vanvass, he knew what kind of an individual his brother is. His capabilities and his administration skills. He knew that in the disputes of royal family the people of Ayodhya wont suffer. Larger interest of the society wont be affected by the internal squabbles of a family.
Whereas Bhishma had no clue how the child of Satyavati will turn out to be. Whether they will be suited to rule, whether they have the capability to rule nothing was known. Being the crown prince of Hastinapur for the internal squabble in the family he sacrificed the interests of his praja. People of Hastinapur and the larger society suffered for a man's lust on a woman( Shantanu's lust on Satyavati) and another man's misplaced dharma who gave importance to being a son than a crown prince.
And see what is happening today. Leaders of our parliament has personal issues to settle scores with and legislation and welfare of the state is held ransom. Who is loosing when GST bill is held. It's the people of India. And for juvenile justice amendment bill to be passed it required the mother of Nirbhaya and the protests in the streets on the acquittal of the juvenile criminal to see the light of day.
We need to understand in those days personal battles were bought at personal levels without compromising the larger interest. It was between Dasrath and Kaikeyi. Family got affected, but not the society.
Whereas now the families in power gloat on the privileges and the common man on the street suffers.
And coming to Chandrabagha I have detailed that marriage aspect in Arshics post. You can read it there and I agree to you.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@ Jaya,

Great post from you, very well pointed the perspectives of kekeyi and Chandra

@ Ramya

We all humans are flawed and imperfect, some more than others

and simple direct communication is the most difficult thing!!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ramyalaxmi

@Jaya: Nicely pointed out the mindset of kaikeyi and chandrabagha. But what I felt is why chandrabagha didn't consult with her husband or sunaina about sita's marriage? If not to any prince atleast a try for sita's match?

Ramya, I don't think Chandrabhaga had not consulted with her husband about the marriages of their daughters (I mean she would have talked about all the 4) and he would not have reciprocated in much needed way. The way Kushadwaj chided her for sending mail to Kalinga, it was evident that she had talked about this with him before communicating.
Now that they stay away from Mithila and ruling a state of their own, it is natural for her to think of her daughters alone and also she was not that strong to question her Brother in law about his daughter's wedding plans. Though she received a negative affirmation from Kalinga, she may receive alliance from someone else even without her trying as the others think that joining hands with a king as a relative strengthen their moral, army & image ion front of others.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Arshics: Yes, not talking what we feel is the initiator of misunderstanding.
@Jaya: Agreed, u r right. But when Janak and sunaina have taken care of her daughters as their own, she could have reciprocated the same. But this mentality is what differentiates between humans.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Ramya chandrabagha is the harsh reality of the world. We have to accept it. Everyone cannot be Janak and Sunaina. Everyone cannot be Sumitra. Everyone cannot be Ram and Sita. Some people rise above the rules of the society, but some people are binded by rules of society. Their standing in society is everything for them. And to achieve this, they neglect many a positive feeling.
If you look as a Raja and as her brother in law Janak addressed her concern as that of a mother. And he promised her it is his duty to ensure her concern is addressed.
And that I would say differentiates people like Janak. They always look inward to correct things, than blame the situations or people for what is happening to them.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@ Ramya, may be that could be the fact which made her to think about her daughters. See, she wanted to take her kids with her when they got their own state but kids didn't want to part with their sisters and King Janak ensured to keep them with him, which in reality deprived her of her motherly instincts or rights. And the sisters were already talking about getting married to a single family so that they don't need to part and what was the guaranty that there will be 4 sons in a family and they are willing to accept 4 sister as their daughter in laws? normally that doesn't happen. So knowing her brother in law, who is much attached to the kids and will bend to all their wishes, she was little worried about her daughters getting married at the right age. Over and above, even if they get such family, it is natural that Sita will be the elder DIL and her daughters will be next to her and they can never dream to become queens. For her becoming a queen is the most wanted post and she might not have wanted to snatch that from her daughters.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Shruthi: Agreed. That is why she is not the mother of Sita. Why sunaina's both daughters suffered?
Somewhat its adharma done for Janak and Sunaina who always followed the path of dharma.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: deejagi

@ Ramya, may be that could be the fact which made her to think about her daughters. See, she wanted to take her kids with her when they got their own state but kids didn't want to part with their sisters and King Janak ensured to keep them with him, which in reality deprived her of her motherly instincts or rights. And the sisters were already talking about getting married to a single family so that they don't need to part and what was the guaranty that there will be 4 sons in a family and they are willing to accept 4 sister as their daughter in laws? normally that doesn't happen. So knowing her brother in law, who is much attached to the kids and will bend to all their wishes, she was little worried about her daughters getting married at the right age. Over and above, even if they get such family, it is natural that Sita will be the elder DIL and her daughters will be next to her and they can never dream to become queens. For her becoming a queen is the most wanted post and she might not have wanted to snatch that from her daughters.

Yes, u brought the valid point. Now I completely agree.

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