Laws of nature- Theory by Janak, Application by Ram - Page 2

Another beautiful analysis Shruti. I have nothing more to add but I just want to say that please keep writing more. The way you analyse and you interpret is so thought provoking and insightful.

Thank you Abhinaya. You all encourage me to write dear. I am searching some answers. Making some connections. Most important being between Ram and Krishna. Ram is called Maryada Purushottam and Krishna is called Poornavatar. Why. What exactly is the difference between them. Because I believe in understanding the difference, we will understand dharma or the real message of these avatars. Because they came to teach us something. And presently that message is lost somewhere in the midst of rituals and poojas.

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Thank you Abhinaya. You all encourage me to write dear. I am searching some answers. Making some connections. Most important being between Ram and Krishna. Ram is called Maryada Purushottam and Krishna is called Poornavatar. Why. What exactly is the difference between them. Because I believe in understanding the difference, we will understand dharma or the real message of these avatars. Because they came to teach us something. And presently that message is lost somewhere in the midst of rituals and poojas.

@Ramya I also know jambu fruit story. But like you I also believe Draupadi's varmala was already for Arjun only.😃

@shruthi: Sorry to interrupt.
@bold: I feel the difference between Ram and Krishna is due to yuga (time). We know about the description of people and their behaviour in both treta and dwapara yuga. I feel Ram character was actually a warrior with kindness because the people who he governed had slight nature of sathya yuga too. But for Krishna, the people were not as good as those in satya or treta yuga.

I heard that in each yuga, people have the qualities with mixture of previous, present and future yuga. As per this, in treta yuga, people were initially too good as that in sathya yuga, the complete face of treta and at the end like dwapara. So we know the last phase of dwapara which had kaliyug characters. Krishna avatar mostly involved politics, administration over principles whereas in Ram avatar it was more of principles.Henceforth Ram called as maryada purushottam and krishna as poornavatar. (I can be corrected if its wrong)

@blue: 😊

Beautiful analysis

@Ramya I agree on the time factor. But more than that, at the start of this post I told one thing. Laws don't change, basics don't change. So in whichever Yuga it is, the fundamentals of way of living doesn't change, that is to go with nature as Janak says. But in each Yug the application can vary as you rightly said based on that Yuga.

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Ramya I agree on the time factor. But more than that, at the start of this post I told one thing. Laws don't change, basics don't change. So in whichever Yuga it is, the fundamentals of way of living doesn't change, that is to go with nature as Janak says. But in each Yug the application can vary as you rightly said based on that Yuga.

But for application we have to know the fundamentals right. See yesterday look at the way Ram adapts to the change. How he applies his knowledge confronted with a new challenge. He was able to do it, because he was clear on the basic principles of the bow and arrow. He understands the relation between them. Symbolically between Prakriti and Purush you can say. Krishna is also about this Prakriti and Purush only. They both have managed this balance. So fundamentally it is balancing Prakriti and Purush. Balance was done by both of them in different way. I kind of understood Krishna's way. But to better understand Krishna, I guess I have to know Ram's way because he is Maryada purushottam.

@bold: thought-provoking.
Yes, sphere is the same in each frame, but from my angle (frame of reference) its ellipse. So from the kaliyug angle Ram called as maryada purush and krishna as poornavatar but may be they remained the same. Not sure, I require to know more in this aspect.

One more thing Ramya, you rightly pointed out the time factor. One thing you need to know that in Satya yug most people knew fundamentals, in treta yug their number reduced as people become more binding in worldly pleasures, dwapar yug even less knew fundamentals and kaliyug I guess we can count numbers. That's why we have to do tark-vithark. Because fundamental is missing and no one knows it. And through valid tark-vithark answer emerges.

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

One more thing Ramya, you rightly pointed out the time factor. One thing you need to know that in Satya yug most people knew fundamentals, in treta yug their number reduced as people become more binding in worldly pleasures, dwapar yug even less knew fundamentals and kaliyug I guess we can count numbers. That's why we have to do tark-vithark. Because fundamental is missing and no one knows it. And through valid tark-vithark answer emerges.

It is like my mom used to cut vegetables and then cook, she used to make pickles at home. Me get cut vegetables from market, pickles also from super market. Then make the meal. if you ask me the fundamental of cooking a meal. I will be like 😕. If something not available I will be like 😕. My mom will not.

Same is the case with life also in Kaliyug. We miss fundamentals as we have no time to understand it.

very true shruthi.
@bold: yes, practical difficulties.
I know young kids using calculator (that too in scientific mode) in mobile for basic addition and subtraction. We are losing our basic morals and infact our basic understanding capacity. Clearly its a long way to go to find the root cause of all.
Hope to know about the branches in perfection if not the entire tree by our discussions.😊

@Ramya we are giving everything to machines. I used to remember atleast 20-25 telephone numbers during my college days. Now hardly 2 numbers( thankfully) because everything else in mobile. Our thinking ability, analytical ability more importantly empathy it is slowly getting lost. Reason we miss the fundamentals. I really hope something in TV comes that deals with Satya Yug after this. Because that is the true Vedic period and where the true fundamentals are.

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Ramya we are giving everything to machines. I used to remember atleast 20-25 telephone numbers during my college days. Now hardly 2 numbers( thankfully) because everything else in mobile. Our thinking ability, analytical ability more importantly empathy it is slowly getting lost. Reason we miss the fundamentals. I really hope something in TV comes that deals with Satya Yug after this. Because that is the true Vedic period and where the true fundamentals are.

I guess Dasavathar is coming in Life Ok. I want to look at it from Matysa avatar. Till Parashuram it is in satya yug right. Or Parashuram Tetra Yug.

You can see there are more engineers and doctors passing out every year, but the actual new invention lacks. What we do is re-searching what we had and lost in both science and spirituality.

@bold: Oh dasavathar is coming. If the time suits I will watch.
Parashuram lived in tetra yug and he continued in dwapara also. Bhisma's guru know.