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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweetzzz


I did see S1, but please excuse my bad memory if I missed something.

I didnt belittle the strength required, but I am asking what happened to the strength before she met mauli. Why couldn't she go against him in those 7 years instead of tolerating the torture!


She did go against him and he would beat her or rape her. Even when she met Mauli, Kunal and Mauli knew that Rajdeep tortures Nandini. But they couldn't help her because she was with Rajdeep, it was not easy to get her out of his house.

If I remember correctly, Rajdeep sold Nandini to his business partner for a night and it was Nandini who protested against it, he beat her and when she told him about her baby, he killed her child and left her on the road.
It was after all this that Nandini called Mauli and Kunal went to help her.

She got out of it because this time she had someone who could get her out of it, before it she was being tortured every time she went against him.


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Posted: 6 years ago
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I'm sorry I'm only talking about nandu..not the general population. And it was about the amazing inner strength that people are saying nandu had. I don't believe nandu had amazing inner strength ..that's why she couldn't control her lust and desires and so called love for her friends husband...Ok. Maybe she had strength to tolerate rajdeeps abuse according to you...but she certainly had no strength to walk away from betraying her friend...I'm sorry .nandu disgusts me ...let's leave it here, ..like you once told me that I can't make you like mishty...you also can't make me see nandu differently . Actually I can't tolerate seeing any scenes of her in silsila ..sorry nandinis character really sickens me and I can't sympathize with her for anything . But she's a fictional character..in real life I have the utmost sympathy for women in abusive relationships and hope that everyone of them gets a savior to get them out of that abuse before it's too late ...because Women in physically abusive relationships are very likely to get murdered ... 😭


That's up to you
I have always said that writer failed when it comes to writing the whole rape and domestic violence track. I remember people wanted Rajdeep to burn Nandini. Seeing atrocities of Rajdeep people were shipping him with Mauli.

So it is complete failure of this writer, who made people so insensitive towards a character which was victim of rape and domestic violence.
I hated her too and I mocked her death as well, so I can totally understand this dislike for her
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty


She did go against him and he would beat her or rape her. Even when she met Mauli, Kunal and Mauli knew that Rajdeep tortures Nandini. But they couldn't help her because she was with Rajdeep, it was not easy to get her out of his house.

If I remember correctly, Rajdeep sold Nandini to his business partner for a night and it was Nandini who protested against it, he beat her and when she told him about her baby, he killed her child and left her on the road.
It was after all this that Nandini called Mauli and Kunal went to help her.

She got out of it because this time she had someone who could get her out of it, before it she was being tortured every time she went against him.



That's my point exactly! Why should she even had to go through all of it at the first place!! Just like she protested against the business partner or whoever she was sold to by rajdeep, why couldn't she protest against rajdeep when he tried to rape her?? Doesn't it show the strength of a woman? Why would a strong woman need someone else to help her get out of a situation like this? we have the law/police/SHE teams and many more to help
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweetzzz


That's my point exactly! Why should she even had to go through all of it at the first place!! Just like she protested the business partner or whoever she was sold to by rajdeep, why couldn't she protest rajdeep when he tried to rape her?? Doesn't it show the strength of a woman? Why would a strong woman need someone else to help her get out of a situation like this? we have the law/police/SHE teams and many more to help


So women who are raped do not protest? Rape means he forced himself on her and she was protesting, if she didn't protest, why would we call it rape? It would have been consensual sex, right?

Isn't it easy to understand that whenever she went against him, he beat her and tortured her? Threaten to kill her? Either die or endure this torture.

I think you are interconnecting words here. The word Kunal used was "Sehensheel" and the word I used was "Inner strength" both do not mean that Nandini had the strength to fight people around her, she had inner strength to endure the torture and survive.

Police and law when it comes to going against rich powerful man like Rajdeep?

Nandini had none in her life, and I think at point she was with him because that's all she had, she had none.

This is a very sad life to be honest and a very disturbing one
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Posted: 6 years ago
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I never liked nandu n as i said i hated her shiddat se but pointing fingers on her marital abuse period is shameful
I know she cheated on mauli but that's a different thing but none can deny that she was abused by rajdeep a lot n marital rape is still categorised as rape n being a woman atleast i can't debate on that
N as fruit toasty said even i can relate to the dislike towards her but dude we all r educated people n i guess we have the capability of differentiating between hating a character n loosing our morals...n i m not moral policing just stating a fact
How much we hate nandini byt we don't have any right to mock her marital abuse trauma coz we all r women
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty


So women who are raped do not protest? Rape means he forced himself on her and she was protesting, if she didn't protest, why would we call it rape? It would have been consensual sex, right?

Isn't it easy to understand that whenever she went against him, he beat her and tortured her? Threaten to kill her? Either die or endure this torture.

I think you are interconnecting words here. The word Kunal used was "Sehensheel" and the word I used was "Inner strength" both do not mean that Nandini had the strength to fight people around her, she had inner strength to endure the torture and survive.


My way of understanding people with inner strength is the one's who tolerate the pain and their emotions. Not the one's who tolerate torture.

Meaning of inner strength - Integrity of character; resoluteness of will; mental resistance to doubt or discouragement( this is from Google, btw)
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: SONAL30

I never liked nandu n as i said i hated her shiddat se but pointing fingers on her marital abuse period is shameful

I know she cheated on mauli but that's a different thing but none can deny that she was abused by rajdeep a lot n marital rape is still categorised as rape n being a woman atleast i can't debate on that
N as fruit toasty said even i can relate to the dislike towards her but dude we all r educated people n i guess we have the capability of differentiating between hating a character n loosing our morals...n i m not moral policing just stating a fact
How much we hate nandini byt we don't have any right to mock her marital abuse trauma coz we all r women


I don't know it's so difficult to even think about that phase and that kind of torture in someone's life. Then I have to explain why someone needs strength to come out of it? I can't even put myself in that place because it's horrifying.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: SONAL30

I never liked nandu n as i said i hated her shiddat se but pointing fingers on her marital abuse period is shameful

I know she cheated on mauli but that's a different thing but none can deny that she was abused by rajdeep a lot n marital rape is still categorised as rape n being a woman atleast i can't debate on that
N as fruit toasty said even i can relate to the dislike towards her but dude we all r educated people n i guess we have the capability of differentiating between hating a character n loosing our morals...n i m not moral policing just stating a fact
How much we hate nandini byt we don't have any right to mock her marital abuse trauma coz we all r women


She has definitely gone through a terrible phase during her marriage with rajdeep, but that doesn't make her strong. All I wanted to convey is that strong woman should fight back instead of going through such torture.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweetzzz


My way of understanding people with inner strength is the one's who tolerate the pain and their emotions. Not the one's who tolerate torture.

Meaning of inner strength - Integrity of character; resoluteness of will; mental resistance to doubt or discouragement( this is from Google, btw)


That's your understanding and inner strength is psychological concept. Everyone can have a different meaning of it.
By inner strength I always meant her survival instincts and the strength to come out of rape and domestic violence alive.

It was Nandini who fought back but was beaten and raped.
Was she physically stronger than Rajdeep? Or even in social standing?
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: SONAL30

I never liked nandu n as i said i hated her shiddat se but pointing fingers on her marital abuse period is shameful

I know she cheated on mauli but that's a different thing but none can deny that she was abused by rajdeep a lot n marital rape is still categorised as rape n being a woman atleast i can't debate on that
N as fruit toasty said even i can relate to the dislike towards her but dude we all r educated people n i guess we have the capability of differentiating between hating a character n loosing our morals...n i m not moral policing just stating a fact
How much we hate nandini byt we don't have any right to mock her marital abuse trauma coz we all r women


Exactly. People who mock victims of violent abuse and rape sicken me to the core.

Abuse weakens a woman mentally. Nandini was not greatly educated, she was brought up in a conservative household where she was taught that a husband is meant to be worshipped at all costs.

She most probably did not a great knowledge of law. And even if she did, its very difficult to overcome your fear and actually take a step against abusers. Even many educated women hesitate to do it.

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