Mishveer : a perfect relationship or a Mirage

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Sheen97

@sheen97

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Posted: 6 years ago

#21

I guess the main problem is we havent been given insight into Mishti

I guess it is high time that we get insight into Mishti and her take on her relationship with Veer

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anshvi

@anshvi

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Posted: 6 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: sheen97

Personally i am not the one who will find excuse to justify one couple
Its not about finding excuse
Its about being seeing the aspecta neutally
Even if after so many years of relationship ur partner still doesnt share her pain that means something is lacking
I will again stick to my point that Veer loves the perfect version of Mishti
Example is Radhika she herself said that Mishti nai hai asi magar unki family mein dhalni ki koshish rahi hai
How pari and arnav were shocked when Mishti came decked up like sanskaari bahu
Mishti is completely changing herself , she is opiniated but keeps opinion to herself when with Veer's family
I believe yes you have to change to certain extent to adjust but not completely
and most impt point Veer joked about mother scene . Being Mishti's fiancee he should have known that how sensitive she is about this topic

Actually i believe be with someone with whom you can behave as a child , with whom you can fight,
I belive Mishti had to leave her childhood and group up
So i think that she deserves someone with whom she can be unreasonable and behave like a child
Still that person will find cuteness within it
This is guess is missing here

Again it is you who think Veer doesn't understand her

If he didn't he wouldn't have got the ring for her...Mishti wants to be good in front of her mom in law..she wants to make them happy.

Veer knew her choice so he got her the ring.

If he didn't understand her then Mishti wouldn't have been getting married to him

Also Mishti shares her pain with him...she shared her fears with him...and what was her fear ? Fear that their happy relation will be ruined...fear that she will have to go through a heartbreak like her mom !

And what did Veer tell her ? He told her that he will never leave her !

If she didn't share her feelings with him then he would have never told him about the kiss

They share their fears and insecurities with each other...just shows how transparent their relation is

Also Veer made a joke and Mishti pointed out why she did what she did and Veer appologised for the same! ...isn't this how a relation supposed to work ? Trying to do the best for each other by each other..and if one makes mistakes then admitting and rectifying it..they value each other

They know each other...trust and understanding is the base of their relation

Who says one needs to be with someone who whom you can fight like a child...one needs to be with someone who understnds you, cares for you, treats you well, respects you , and tries to make the relation work

Right now they are shown as a happily commited couple

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lucky.m

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Posted: 6 years ago

#23

We are talking about trust, commitment, but missing out on one more important aspect of any relationship which is honest communication which at this point is missing between MishVeer.

So Misthi is scared if she reveals her true self, her perfect world would shatter That's one big assumption to live in. She doesn't have a need to stay perfect and continue in this relationship. Why can't she have word with Veer and come out clean? Why adhere to the wishes of her would be saas with a smile? But still, Veer did notice, didn't he and got her ring. He gains brownie points there.

Ever gave a thought, Veer might be under the assumption that Misthi is willingly adjusting to his mom's wishes because that's the picture Misthi is presenting to Veer and his Mom ..an illusion of perfection which she wants to be, which she is not. She is as human as us and flawed.

And Not everyone is capable of reading between lines and looking into eyes. This 'kahee ankhanee baatein ' 'aankon ki basha' stuff looks romantic and works mostly in Tv's and books but in real life, I doubt, though.

You cant read my eyes ...so we/you are not perfect. Things don't work that way.😆😆 You need to talk.

If this is the case and Veer or his Mom can't accept the 'Real misthi' they can part ways amicably. I don't even see the need for Ruhaan to crack is the veer's relation.

Or can we say Misthi is not aware of her own flaws and Ruhaan is here is bring her flawed side?

Either way Cv's need to work more on Misthi's character so that she doesn't come across as a confused soul.

Please feel free to disagree. You can stick to your Pov.I am happy with mine.

Lucky

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Sheen97

@sheen97

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Posted: 6 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: made-in-charms

I'm sure Mishti spoke for herself when Veer was talking about her concern for his mother being a " drama " and Veer apologized. Mishti opened up about her insecurities to Veer which does indicate they share a lot with each other.
Veer wasn't even mad at Mishti when he got to know she probably kissed someone.
I believe he does see her flaws , they are both mature enough to handle it with care.

Personally I think she was scared of how happy she was , her insecurities comes from her past experience.
On the other hand when she confronted Ruhaan about the kiss , she had no doubts or fears about her relationship with veer getting ruined just because of a kiss.
She was confident about Veer believing her. That indicates the trust is there.

I mean in real , communication is essential. Veer did understand that she was not happy with his mother's choice ( regarding the engagement ring ).

As of now I did not find them being in love with the perfect version of each other , I believe they are in love & they're compatible. But just like you my opinion might change. It has just been a week.

I dkn reading your post feels like you are right but still i dkn i still feel that something is lacking in that relationship and no dont misunderstand it as spark

I guess all this will get cleared when we see insight into mishti

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Sheen97

@sheen97

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Posted: 6 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: lucky.m
We are talking about trust, commitment, but missing out on one more important aspect of any relationship which is honest communication which at this point is missing between MishVeer.

So Misthi is scared if she reveals her true self, her perfect world would shatter That's one big assumption to live in. She doesn't have a need to stay perfect and continue in this relationship. Why can't she have word with Veer and come out clean? Why adhere to the wishes of her would be saas with a smile? But still, Veer did notice, didn't he and got her ring. He gains brownie points there.

Ever gave a thought, Veer might be under the assumption that Misthi is willingly adjusting to his mom's wishes because that's the picture Misthi is presenting to Veer and his Mom ..an illusion of perfection which she wants to be, which she is not. She is as human as us and flawed.

And Not everyone is capable of reading between lines and looking into eyes. This 'kahee ankhanee baatein ' 'aankon ki basha' stuff looks romantic and works mostly in Tv's and books but in real life, I doubt, though.

You cant read my eyes ...so we/you are not perfect. Things don't work that way. 😆😆 You need to talk.

If this is the case and Veer or his Mom can't accept the 'Real misthi' they can part ways amicably. I don't even see the need for Ruhaan to crack is the veer's relation.

Or can we say Misthi is not aware of her own flaws and Ruhaan is here is bring her flawed side?

Either way Cv's need to work more on Misthi's character so that she doesn't come across as a confused soul.

Please feel free to disagree. You can stick to your Pov.I am happy with mine.

Lucky

No i agree with you this what i wrote that something is lacking and i think i got my ans

@ bold this is what i feel

I agree Mishti's character is actually underdeveloped now is a high time we get insight into her reactions

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anshvi

@anshvi

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Posted: 6 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: sheen97

Married couple dont fight on petty issues not bcz they ignore each iother fault but bcz they have accepted each other with those flaws
That is what i am trying to say
In actual relationship no one need a perfect partner but i feel here is Mishveer has not seen each others flawed side
May be if they were shown fighting like normal couple then it was acceptable , then i would have not have had problem.bcz then that means both know and has accepted other flawed side but here that is missing

Well didn't Veer joke about the drama and Mishti got upset ? And Veer appologised.. This was a very small instance.

Again we are assuming that they haven't seen each other's flawed side...when the show opened we saw them already in a relation...a steady couple...a couple in love who are about to get married...so they were already established as an couple so we who knows if they fight with each other or not...Again makers need to give us more MishVeer scenes to get a better understanding of their relation

Also if they are not compatible, don't know each other well then makers need to show it

For e.g.: They could have shown that Mishti didn't like the ring and Veer didn't get her the ring of her choice...the fact that he got her the ring shows that she knows her well

If Mishti was not in love them makers should clarify it rather than showing her being so sure of their relation, kissing him , saying how she will say a 100 times yes to him for marriage , her crying infront of him statjgn how scared she is that someone might separate them etc...makers need to show what Mishti thinks.

As of now they are shown as a happily committed couple who understnd and trust each other and are compatible...Also there are couples who are so compatible that they fight but very rarely...fighting with each other isn't a parameter to judge if they know each other or not in my opinion

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Arohi

@made-in-charms

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Posted: 6 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: sheen97

I dkn reading your post feels like you are right but still i dkn i still feel that something is lacking in that relationship and no dont misunderstand it as spark
I guess all this will get cleared when we see insight into mishti

That to I've been saying for the past few days , its high time we get to see more of Mishti , not just random outburts , the real deal.

Also in order to decide whether mishveer are compatible or not , we need to know how they met ,what made them fall in love with each other. Because mishti herself says she's in love with veer , she has said yes to the marriage repeatedly ! She looks happy , so more mishveer and mishti scenes are required to conclude anything.

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an_am

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Posted: 6 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: made-in-charms

That to I've been saying for the past few days , its high time we get to see more of Mishti , not just random outburts , the real deal.
Also in order to decide whether mishveer are compatible or not , we need to know how they met ,what made them fall in love with each other. Because mishti herself says she's in love with veer , she has said yes to the marriage repeatedly ! She looks happy , so more mishveer and mishti scenes are required to conclude anything.

i agree they need to show more about mishti's character.. they must show her monologues.. keeping everything vague isnt gonna help the storyline.. it seems they are waiting for the reaction of the viewers regarding mishaan and mishveer's relationship, after that they will decide how to shape up mishti's character 😆

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anshvi

@anshvi

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Posted: 6 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: dmegha

I don't care if MisHaan happens or not, Ruhaan can go and fall in love with Pari or someone else.
But I still am of the opinion that Veer is not the right guy for Mishti and Mishti isn't the one for Veer.

It's not about finding excuses, we can see and notice what is actually the reality of MishVeer relationship.

Mishti can leave Veer and people can say Veer is not understanding but only whrn makers show it and state the same thing...right now people are judging characters based on their own perceptions.

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anshvi

@anshvi

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Posted: 6 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: dmegha

Did Veer ask Mishti to choose the ring of her mom's choice ? Nope ! It was Mishti's decision and not Veer's...Also he did get her the ring that she loved...Veer's mom didn't force Mishti it was othet way round! Mishti pressurised his mom to make a choice for her

But Mishti did feel that she needs to do so. Mishti did feel that she needs to please his mother. You need to understand the scene properly. All Mishti was trying to do was to please Veer's mother.

Umm I understood the scene...if Mishti wanted to please his mom then I am not sure why would Veer have a problem ! That scene showed that Mishti wants her relation to work and for that she wanted please her mom in law and in doing so chose a ring of her choice...Veer noticed this and got the ring of her choice...It showed that he knows her well..that was the point of the scene

Also Veer is not an antaryami that he has to understand every unspoken word Mishti...communication is a huge part of a relationship and MishVeer communicate with each other well Mishti expressed her fears and Veer consoled her When you are in love, you don't have to be antaryami or anything. You can pick up and guess the stress by your beloved's behavior. But then again Mishti is pretending to be okay and perfect in front of him. Again physical proximity explains that they have been in a relationship for a long time...Also it is people who are assuming that Mishti isn't in love...let the writers let Mishti tell the same. Being physically comfortable is very different from being in love. Love doesn't always develop gradually, it can happen in an instant. Right now from what has been shown Mishti is so comfortable with Veer that she not only expresses her deep rooted fears with him but also is comfortable enough to kiss him and profess her love

I repeat, being comfortable with each other and having physical proximity is very much different than being in love. Love isn't about being comfortable and you don't need to be physically involved to express love.

Umm and I repeat that you are simply assuming that she isn't in love...she is not only physically comfortable with him but comfortable enough to share her feelings and fears with him...at least wait for Mishti to clarify if she loves him or not ..let writers show it first...so far they are comfortable with each other both physically as well as emotionally

Mishti kissed a stranger and informed Veer who was not at all jealous..in fact knew her so well that he told her that she must have missed someone on the cheek...just shows how much trust he has on her and is sure of their relation I have said it before, Veer's trust on Mishti and his understanding regarding the kiss situation cannot be called love. Trust is a part of a relationship, just a part. This shows that they are happy with each other...They understand and trust each other

Understanding is not love.

It might not be love but a huge part of a relationship !

As of now they are shown as a happy commited couple who are going to get married soon Are they really happy or they just think that they are happy. That is to be seen. May be juzzbaat can mean more than commitment to some but not to me...if this was the case then even Nandini Kunal were right...even Kunal could have said that Mauli is perfect but not perfect for him.

I believe that Kunal and Nandini were right. I have mentioned in numerous posts that Kunal and Nandini were right in falling in love. They were only wrong about keeping Mauli in dark. They should have told Mauli about their feelings, Kunal should have confessed to Mauli about his feelings for Nandini first instead of starting an EMA. You have to understand that a relationship requires both love and commitment. A relationship can't operate on commitment alone. Why are we subjecting Mishti in a loveless relationship? Wouldn't it be an injustice to Veer if Mishti marries him despite being in love with Ruhaan?

When a couple get married or are commited to each other then falling for someone else is ethically wrong in my opinion...cos there is something called sanctity of marriage and sanctity of a relation that should be maintained..if falling in and out of love became so common then no one one is going to believe in the institution of marriage or in commitment...Kunal fell in love with Nandini whrn he was married to an amazing woman like Mauli..that was wrong!

This is what I said..love and commitment both go hand in hand...love cannot stand the test if times without commitment and commitment is done to the one you love !

Also who said Mishti should 't leave Veer for Ruhan ! Point here is are they a happily committed couple or not ! Which at this point they are...now if she falls for someone else then surely for me she and Ruhan will be at fault...Veer will he heartbroken and the two people who were closer to him with be the reason of his pain

Also if today Mishti leaves him for Ruhan then who knows maybe tomorrow Ruhan might realise that he loves someone else and leaves Mishti for that othet person ? Precisely why commitment is the key to any successful relation along with love

I feel commitment and love both go hand in hand...love is much more than sparks and attraction coz they fade over time A relation can work if there is love, understanding and trust...It can't be based on fatal attraction and sparks cos that is not love but infactation And you think that what Mishti and Ruhaan will feel for each other is plain attraction? It can be but then it cannot be as well. That again has to be seen in future. What if Mishti and Ruhaan find true love in each other? Will you still subject Veer in a loveless and meaningless marriage with Mishti, knowing that Mishti will never be able to love him as he deserves? If Ruhan was not Veer's friend it would be wrong but he is his friend which makes MishAan even more wrong for me coz he will be breaking his friend's trust

What kind of logic is that? If it is wrong then it will be wrong in any case. What will be crueler? A heartbreak or life-long pain? A heart-break from which Veer can move on OR the life-long pain of being tied to someone who doesn't even love him?

Umm lol obviously wrong is wrong ! But if you are wronged by your near and dear one instead of a stranger then it is going to hurt even more ! It is a SIMPLE LOGIC ! 😆

Again ! This is your assumption! As Mishti is yet to clarify this and so do the writers...Also MishVeer aren't an arranged alliance...people need to understand that they were in a relationship, fell in love, had a steady relation, made each other promises , and then decided to spend their lives with one another! They are doing a love marriage ! So as of now they are a happily committed couple..now Ruhan will enter and the equations will change

Now writers will surely give reasons to justify MishAan but like I said I can't root for them coz they are not the kind of couple I would want to ship Just because you don't like it then it doesn't mean that in cannot happen. You are free to ship who you want but that doesn't mean that it is going to sail, that it will actually happen. Same is the case with MisHaan; they might not happen.

Who said it won't happen...in fact I am sure MishAan will happen just like Kunal-Nandini happened

Thst is what I said writers will surely justify MishAan

I clearly said that they might happen but I am not rooting for them for the obviously reasons

Obviously everyone is entitled to ship whosoever they want