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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: elim

ok i read another
"Now contrast that with Nandini. So much has happened but she still feels 0 guilt"
she feels no guilt or u don't want to see ? she was guilty when she realized her feelings for kunal and punished herself.
she was guilty knowing Mauli is hurt because of her and closed herself and cried in a corner . Kunal said same thing "maine jaan bujh ke nahi kiya" so did Nandini . bt yea kunal feels guilty not Nandini.
when she was talking to the docs she dint know Mauli was there .she was only true to her feelings


She cried in the corner and after sometime texted kunal? And the next day she tells mauli humne ye nahi kiya bas ho gaya? Hume pyar tumhari dahleez.par mila..kisi ko paana aasan nahi hai...was she really feeling guilty ? Yes she was not and its ok if she doesnt , its ok if she says kunal ne hume choose kiya wo humare paas aaya , that also makes some sense instead of the nonsense dialogues which she spoke..her actions are something different , what she is feeling is different what she is saying is different and what she actually does ? She is in her character . Yes. Consistently loving kunal . I totally get that ..she loves kunal . She wants kunal . But dont say woh bhi jhoot nahi tha ye bhi jhoot nahi hai ..chit bhi meri pat bhi..its my mistake but its not my mistake but you forgive me mauli..thats nandinis state of mind . Everything should be ok between mauli kunal, i want kunal, kunal humari poonji hai, woh bura sapna tha , paana khona aasan nahi hai!
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Angels11



Above in bold. I ve explained tat in my points. The initial character arc of Kunal & his equation with Mauli before Nandini's entry. And the skewed friendship bet Mauli-Nandini.



I have a different point again..from Mauli's perspective, who will she feel more hurt from? if equally from both then both are equally responsible.

both have a relation with her..one of love/marriage/husband and one of friendship.

Like she helped Nandini from the abusive past, she too helped Kunal in his clinic part..
they both stand at the same point for me. As a third person view (as a viewer), I have equal expectations from both Kunal and Nandini with respect to their own conscience and morality in this regard. No more no less.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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She cried in the corner and after sometime texted kunal? And the next day she tells mauli humne ye nahi kiya bas ho gaya? Hume pyar tumhari dahleez.par mila..kisi ko paana aasan nahi hai...was she really feeling guilty ? Yes she was not and its ok if she doesnt , its ok if she says kunal ne hume choose kiya wo humare paas aaya , that also makes some sense instead of the nonsense dialogues which she spoke..her actions are something different , what she is feeling is different what she is saying is different and what she actually does ? She is in her character . Yes. Consistently loving kunal . I totally get that ..she loves kunal . She wants kunal . But dont say woh bhi jhoot nahi tha ye bhi jhoot nahi hai ..chit bhi meri pat bhi..its my mistake but its not my mistake but you forgive me mauli..thats nandinis state of mind . Everything should be ok between mauli kunal, i want kunal, kunal humari poonji hai, woh bura sapna tha , paana khona aasan nahi hai!



Exactly. Nandu fans keep saying again & again She felt bad, she cried. Arrey baba wat else does she know other than cry & shake shake shake. Tho crying koun si badi baat hai. Woh tho waise bhi Nandini karti hai. Cry cry & cry 🥱
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Flame_of_Forest



I have a different point again..from Mauli's perspective, who will she feel more hurt from? if equally from both then both are equally responsible.

both have a relation with her..one of love/marriage/husband and one of friendship.

Like she helped Nandini from the abusive past, she too helped Kunal in his clinic part..
they both stand at the same point for me. As a third person view (as a viewer), I have equal expectations from both Kunal and Nandini with respect to their own conscience and morality in this regard. No more no less.



We are discussing bt why the audience hate Nandini more than Kunal. The topic is not who is more responsible for this mess. Kunal & Nandini are BOTH, EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE for the adultery. Kunal lusted after his wife's friend. Nandini slept with her BFF's friend. Its not bt whose crime is bigger. The discussion is y audience r hating Nandini more & find her more repulsive. I am trying 2 explain the hate part of it. I hold Kunal equally responsible for the affair but I hate Nandini. There is a difference between the 2. Hope I made sense!
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by Yezabel

Noticed this also. Seems like in India blaming women for everything is ordinary, its some kind of sick culture I guess. There are some fans who wants that Kunal returns to Mauli!!! I mean how is that possible they really think Mauli should accept him back. After reading horrible comments here like 'marital rape isnt rape' Im just thankful that Im not living in this backward country who hates women.



WHY ARE YOU DRAGGING INDIA IN YOUR POST. This a forum where people discuss about a show and the posts made are based on emotions evoked by the characters presented. So stop extrapolating thought process of couple of people to the whole nation. If we start doing that, then I don't think any country in this world is woman friendly.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: elim

I read only first para and the excuse is really lame .Nandini is not married to Mauli Kunal is..He is committed to Mauli. .Kunal is the one who initiated this affair. Kunal is the one who stopped Nandini and dint let her go.

Nandinis fault is obeying Kunal .getting emotionally manipulated hence betraying her bff,
The only reason N gets more hate is because of the mindset .

There are people who wants to see Mauli to end up with Kunal after all this😆


Same. Infact I read only one line here and the excuse is really lame.😆

@bold: It's only Kunal's responsibility coz he is LEGALLY bound to Mouli and Nandini is not?

She has no moral responsibility towards her 'best friend'? Is this how Nandini thinks too? Since she is so bereft of guilt or shame?

This is so lame, really. The next thing you guys will say is, since Mauli is NOT legally obliged to help a friend, she should not have helped Nandini and brought it onto herself...😆
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Interesting analysis!!

The way I see it, Nandini gets the most reactions from the viewers because her character (esp off late) has had the most weird reactions out of all the characters.

Kunal gets less reaction because he doesn't say much. Ever since the affair got revealed, there was the confrontation with Mauli (where viewer's focus was on Mauli and not Kunal), then he got lashing from his mom, got beaten up by Rajdeep, got ousted from his home, and then got into the accident. There is nothing much to discuss about Kunal in all this. He hasn't had too many dialogues much less controversial ones. His reactions to the situations too have been more of a 'go with the flow' mode. None of this makes Kunal any better but really, there is only so much anyone can comment about him on a day-to-day basis.

On the other hand, Nandini gets all sorts of weird dialogues... like her preaching about her true love to Rajdeep when he beat up Kunal, or her saying to Mauli in the temple that she doesn't know how all this happened but she didn't intend to hurt her, or her not informing Kunal's family about his accident. In almost every epi, there is something or the other she says or does that has more scope for comments or discussions.

So really the difference in reactions to the two characters is more to do with how the CVs are presenting them.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Angels11

We are discussing bt why the audience hate Nandini more than Kunal. The topic is not who is more responsible for this mess. Kunal & Nandini are BOTH, EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE for the adultery. Kunal lusted after his wife's friend. Nandini slept with her BFF's friend. Its not bt whose crime is bigger. The discussion is y audience r hating Nandini more & find her more repulsive. I am trying 2 explain the hate part of it. I hold Kunal equally responsible for the affair but I hate Nandini. There is a difference between the 2. Hope I made sense!



of course, you made. We are on the same page there.
I got confused with the main post due to last paragraphs about guilt and your previous reply to my post..my bad :)

okay, so coming back to the reasons/gender part

while I agree with your post of establishing the story and Mauli-Kunal happy life and not building Nandini character.
on the guilt part, there were some instances, hope there will be more..Kunal has taken a straight path towards that while Nandini may take a parabolic one..at least hope so.

Also, what would have happened if it had been exactly reversed, meaning her showing guilt first..I doubt if the hate would have been lessened..may be the reaction could have been ab guilt dikhake kya fayda..but since this is speculation based on extrapolation, so I have to add 'not so sure' word with it.

but some more points I feel are

1) because it is being perceived as - Mauli/Kunal is a couple and Nandini is new entry in their life (although vice-versa is also true meaning they make entry in her life). So she is the third person who is disturbing their love life.

2) While you and me are on the same page considering both equally responsible in this, some may not think it that way.
Nandini being the friend helped by Mauli, some may consider more responsibility laid on her shoulders in terms of conscience and morality.

3) Not sure what would have been the reaction if roles would have been changed and third person had been of male gender. But, based on some reactions, may be he would have been considered just as jerk and that is all. so possibly could be due to combination of third person view + women gender

4) I mentioned in another post, Makers could not handle the more layered human emotions in the build up of the grey/black/brown whichever colored characters they are + the rushed sequences. The clarity of thoughts, reasons behind steps and intentions behind actions are missing in the showcase. moreover logical flaws were introduced instead of focusing on human flaws.

Apart from these reasons, there could be additional major or minor ones as well like viewers expectations from actress/actors to always play a morally good character, fan-wars etc.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: drummedup


Same. Infact I read only one line here and the excuse is really lame.😆

@bold: It's only Kunal's responsibility coz he is LEGALLY bound to Mouli and Nandini is not?

She has no moral responsibility towards her 'best friend'? Is this how Nandini thinks too? Since she is so bereft of guilt or shame?

This is so lame, really. The next thing you guys will say is, since Mauli is NOT legally obliged to help a friend, she should not have helped Nandini and brought it onto herself...😆



I am really tired of this line It was Kunal who initiated the affair. Yes but Nandini could ve said No? She is not a baby right?
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: SStephy

Interesting analysis!!

The way I see it, Nandini gets the most reactions from the viewers because her character (esp off late) has had the most weird reactions out of all the characters.

Kunal gets less reaction because he doesn't say much. Ever since the affair got revealed, there was the confrontation with Mauli (where viewer's focus was on Mauli and not Kunal), then he got lashing from his mom, got beaten up by Rajdeep, got ousted from his home, and then got into the accident. There is nothing much to discuss about Kunal in all this. He hasn't had too many dialogues much less controversial ones. His reactions to the situations too have been more of a 'go with the flow' mode. None of this makes Kunal any better but really, there is only so much anyone can comment about him on a day-to-day basis.

On the other hand, Nandini gets all sorts of weird dialogues... like her preaching about her true love to Rajdeep when he beat up Kunal, or her saying to Mauli in the temple that she doesn't know how all this happened but she didn't intend to hurt her, or her not informing Kunal's family about his accident. In almost every epi, there is something or the other she says or does that has more scope for comments or discussions.

So really the difference in reactions to the two characters is more to do with how the CVs are presenting them.



You ve put it in a nutshell without rambling like me 😆 yes the reason why audience hate her is due to her dialogues & actions. Nandini gets max screen presence of the 3. Many ppl ve said tis again & again. If CVs had shown her as evil or bad she w'd not b getting so much hate. If the acting is good audience do appreciate even negative characters. Here its the constant crying, abla naari, sati savitri, innocent act which irritates the shit out of every1. Show her as just a greedy, selfish, scheming person & audience ll accept it if the acting is good!

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