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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheMockingBird

Does it matter mauli is perfect wife becoz i think nobody is perfect.Here Mauli can't be held responsible 4 kunal's feeling nowhere it's shown that kunal had problem with mauli's nature or her taking control of his life as you are saying(i don't agree with your point that mauli is someway trying to control kunal's life).Problem here is kunal's feelings .He can't control himself and his harmones after he saw nandini dancing in the rain .And it has nothing to do with mauli's nature.I never stopped ppl from shipping kunal and never questioned them becoz it's their life and choice and one can't question them about it.But one should not try to justify the kunal amd nandini by giving illogical reasons.U like them go head praise them and ship them who cares but don't question other if they don't like them.When i see some post supporting mauli it get closed in few hours reason is obvious becoz it's not played by famous name and ppl here are not able to differentiate bw real and reel.Coming to TM post ur debate whether mauli is perfect wife or not is baseless and useless as chalo man lo mauli is not perfect wife but she is good frnd with nandini and hv done so much for nandu still nandu is having feelings for kunal ab isme bhi mauli ka kasoor ha.Come on nandini still has concience but Kunal is jerk who don't need reason to cheat his wife .Ppl like kunal are present in real too but don't make them heroes.These kind of ppl can't love anybody .They are spineless ppl who are never satisfied by one woman in their life.

Your comment is overflowing with what I very politely requested not to post. I have nothing else to say.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: abhiya_12

I am a silent member of this forum never put my thoughts here but this post made me to comment. And I am fan of no actor in this show completely neutral to every actor maybe biased to Shakti a bit as I am following his work from tere liye but I seriously can't stand Kunal as a character that's another case.

Coming to the post that's really a good post and lovely analysis but I don't think they never said Mauli is a perfect wife and I don't think no one in this show or in real are perfect. Mauli does have her flaws and her biggest flaw is she can't keep limits to her relationships . She make Nandini enter into her marriage relationship like gifting the saree which her husband brought for her or making Kunal to give something to Nandini which he made for her like these small things.
And coming to Mauli working on Kunal's dream but I don't think Kunal was completely unaware of that he does have a idea about it and his dream is to serve people so I don't see any harm in this and Kunal isn't that dumb to not have a idea about it.

Coming to family planning Mauli clearly said Kunal was ready to become a father from beginning it's only she who pushed it and now want to surprise him with giving him the thing he was ready for and she is unaware of Kunal's over night change in his emotions and she is demoted from wife's position to purana farz of him.


And yes Mauli is also a flawed person and I not a perfect person and still don't deserve what Kunal is doing with her

Giving Nandini the saree gifted by Kunal was definitely a wrong call by Mauli, but not as big a deal as taking the reigns of her husband's dream or deciding to have a baby alone. I am a wife and a mother, so I can confidently say that even the smallest scare within a few seconds is good enough for changing your mind about having a baby, because it is a life-altering decision.
I have already said that I'm analyzing only Mauli's role as a wife and that I know Kunal isn't being a good spouse, so I don't have much else to say about that aspect.
Edited by iota - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: iota

Before Mauli supporters bash me for criticizing the perfect woman, I'd like to clarify a few things. I agree that Kunal isn't being a good husband at the moment, and definitely a worse spouse than Mauli. Also, I'm not trying to justify KuNan. I am trying to analyze Mauli and Kunal's marriage as a standalone thing, without the involvement of a third person. I am trying to understand their original equation before Nandini entered their lives. Specifically, I am trying to understand Mauli's perception of her role as a wife.


If you cannot understand this perspective, kindly refrain from reading the rest of this post or replying to it by highlighting that Kunal is cheating on Mauli, so nothing she is doing is wrong.


Firstly, about setting up Kunal's clinic. A person's ambition is a very personal thing. It is something that they want to achieve for themselves as an individual. It is a dream they've been seeing since forever and they want to work hard towards achieving it. Let us take the case of a husband's dream. If the wife wants to, she can do whatever is in her capacity to help her husband fulfil his dream and even at times make sacrifices. There might come a time when his dream becomes their dream. In that case, they can work like a team to achieve it. But gift-wrapping the dream with her own ideas or with what she thinks he'll like, without giving him a whiff, forget about taking his inputs, is like snatching away a huge chunk of the dream from him. Mauli is depriving Kunal of his right to walk on the path that will lead him to achieve his dream. She's paving a road with materials that she thinks he will like, but who knows if he will? And even if he does, will he like the fact that he didn't get to toil for or play a part in his dream? Will it not hurt his ego and self-respect, and make him think that his wife doesn't believe in him? I do not think Mauli should have gone as far as setting up the clinic for him. Maybe buying the land was enough. Whatever she's doing is with good intentions, but she's taking it a bit too far; she is taking control of her husband's biggest dream, when she should instead stand by his side as his strength and support, and let him pave the path towards his dream on his own. A husband and a wife are both individuals with their own personal space, which neither one should invade.


Secondly, about stopping birth-control. I don't think I should even elaborate on this. Having children is a couple's joint decision; Mauli cannot take that decision for both of them in the name of giving Kunal a surprise. Just because he always wanted to be a dad in the past doesn't mean that he is ready in the present as well. People have a change of heart (again I'm not talking about Nandini), and having a child is a huge decision. This is another example of Mauli taking control of the next phase in her and Kunal's marriage without his knowledge.


Mauli is a very caring and nice person, but it seems like she considers herself the more mature one in the marriage and Kunal the more childlike one, probably because he's impulsive. I am not saying that this is wrong, because it seems to have worked out for them so far. But is this something that can work out in the long run? In addition to being childlike, Kunal is also very sensitive. While Mauli is the perfect caregiver, there is a very thin line between too much care and taking control. And to me, in the recent past, she has already crossed the line twice. Kunal is bound to be affected by it eventually. For all you know, similar things have hurt him and put cracks in their relationship in the past too.


We've obviously seen the flaws in Rajdeep, Kunal, and Nandini. Now, I'm starting to see flaws in Mauli too. I used to think - She can't be that perfect a wife. And now I know she isn't. Her best characteristic itself is her flaw - caring too much for her husband and not knowing where to draw the line, taking control of his dreams and their marriage in the process. I'm really impressed with how subtly the makers are bringing this across. I'm sure it'll become more prominent in the future, but seriously, kudos!


Once again, please comment on this post only if you can view things from Mauli's perspective and her marriage with Kunal as a standalone thing, without Nandini in the picture. Kindly abstain from posting comments surrounding the topic that Kunal is cheating on Mauli. We have more than enough posts on that topic.



Ithink I can understand what Mauli is doing. Don't we encourage it when ML helps FL achieve her dreams... Like support her financially if she wants to study...Won't we love it if our ML gifts his gf/wife her dream clinic or is it considered as intrusion into one's private space?? Dont know the POV of others but I feel its a well-intentioned and excellent gift that further showcases mauli's dedication to her husband...People gift clothes, shoes, holiday packages that give momentary happiness but Mauli is gifting kunal a base for his dream which would give him happiness throughout his life whether or not they stay together in future... I would really appreciate if my life partner does this for me... ❤️

Coming to the next point u raised, whether mauli should ask her husband before she removes her contraceptive, well kunal till now has never shown any abhorance to have a kid... Rather has always been potrayed as someone who would love to be a father... Even when mauli last time asked him about this, he said kids after clinic...Even when his mother pesters him for kids, no where he says that he doesn't want to have kids... so again I think its a very positive step from mauli's side...
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Posted: 7 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: sweet_tania


Mauli does have her flaws and her biggest flaw is she can't keep limits to her relationships . She make Nandini enter into her marriage relationship like gifting the saree which her husband brought for her or making Kunal to give something to Nandini which he made for her like these small things. 👍🏼
And coming to Mauli working on Kunal's dream but I don't think Kunal was completely unaware of that he does have a idea about it and his dream is to serve people so I don't see any harm in this and Kunal isn't that dumb to not have a idea about it.

Coming to family planning Mauli clearly said Kunal was ready to become a father from beginning it's only she who pushed it and now want to surprise him with giving him the thing he was ready for and she is unaware of Kunal's over night change in his emotions and she is demoted from wife's position to purana farz of him.👏👏

Mouli is also flawed but to consider her as purana farz is not justifiable. 😡

Pasting my response to abhiya as you pasted her comment. 😊


Giving Nandini the saree gifted by Kunal was definitely a wrong call by Mauli, but not as big a deal as taking the reigns of her husband's dream or deciding to have a baby alone. I am a wife and a mother, so I can confidently say that even the smallest scare within a few seconds is good enough for changing your mind about having a baby, because it is a life-altering decision.
I have already said that I'm analyzing only Mauli's role as a wife and that I know Kunal isn't being a good spouse, so I don't have much else to say about that aspect.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: iota

Your comment is overflowing with what I very politely requested not to post. I have nothing else to say.

i m ready to edit certain lines but i can't understand the base of your post actually.What has mauli being perfect wife has to do with EMA bw kunal and nandini.When they never showed kunal being irritated by mauli behaviour.So what you trying to say even i agree with you mauli is not good partner for kunal do you think it is right for kunal to fall for nandini just by seeing her dancing in rain.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheMockingBird

i m ready to edit certain lines but i can't understand the base of your post actually.What has mauli being perfect wife has to do with EMA bw kunal and nandini.When they never showed kunal being irritated by mauli behaviour.So what you trying to say even i agree with you mauli is not good partner for kunal do you think it is right for kunal to fall for nandini just by seeing her dancing in rain.

No comments. I've already said what I wanted to. 😊
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: iota

No comments. I've already said what I wanted to. 😊

As you wish so i think u don't hv answers for what i asked you polietly .Thanks 4 replying good day god bless you!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: iota


Giving Nandini the saree gifted by Kunal was definitely a wrong call by Mauli, but not as big a deal as taking the reigns of her husband's dream or deciding to have a baby alone. I am a wife and a mother, so I can confidently say that even the smallest scare within a few seconds is good enough for changing your mind about having a baby, because it is a life-altering decision.
I have already said that I'm analyzing only Mauli's role as a wife and that I know Kunal isn't being a good spouse, so I don't have much else to say about that aspect.


But when did she decided to have baby alone, she clearly said Kunal was always ready and she don't have any idea about Kunal's emotions. And Kunal never said he wasn't ready by her words it's almost clear he was always ready for this phase. It would be wrong if both weren't ready and mauli went ahead deciding alone remove Kunal's emotions for Nandini from the picture and see wouldn't Kunal loved this surprise from his wife if he hadn't had a change of heart.

And coming to fulfilling Kunal's dream again Kunal have a idea of Mauli involving in his dream if he had/have problem with that he should have said or even tell it now but Kunal never showed any kind of getting annoyed/suffocated by her care/love anything to call it as a flaw or she dominating Kunal.

For me her biggest flaw is her trying to make Nandini/Kunal comfortable with each other in the same way she is with them which annoys me like hell because one should know you can't make your husband behave in a same comfort he is with you or make your best friend talk with your husband as a close friend.
Edited by abhiya_12 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: DracarysTrio

First of all I don't think Mauli is perfect human being, everyone has flaws

what exactly is Kunal's dream, Setting up a clinic or treating people for free, Mauli is just gifting him a clinic but at the end of the day it's Kunal who will fulfill his dream of treating patients for free, that's the dream right. Kunal and Mauli arranged people for Nandini's cooking classes, they arranged a place for her but she will fulfill her dream of being independent by cooking, government is building schools but dreams of students are fulfilled by studying and scoring marks, I hope I was clear.

Kunal and Mauli always had an understanding that they will have kids after they are settled, Kunal was very much eager to have kids in first few episodes, now Mauli doesn't know that he's in love with Nandini so he is not interested in having kids with her

I will just agree to disagree with you because I don't think Mauli should design her husband's dream or decide to have a baby alone. I am a wife and a mother, so I can confidently say that even the smallest scare within a few seconds is good enough for changing your mind about having a baby, because it is a life-altering decision. As for helping Nandini out, everything happened with her knowledge and cooperation, unlike Mauli designing Kunal's dream clinic for him without him contributing or knowing about it. And the example about the government doing something is not at all relevant in this context. The government is doing exactly what is expected out of it...for example, Kunal is expected to be faithful to his wife. But Mauli isn't expected to fulfil Kunal's dream. It's a different thing to gift your spouse a book they love, but laying the base of something that's linked to their individuality and purpose of existence..something they have dreamt to build from scratch for their own self, is taking it a bit too far, in my opinion.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhiya_12


But when did she decided to have baby alone, she clearly said Kunal was always ready and she don't have any idea about Kunal's emotions. And Kunal never said he wasn't ready by her words it's almost clear he was always ready for this phase. It would be wrong if both weren't ready and mauli went ahead deciding alone remove Kunal's emotions for Nandini from the picture and see wouldn't Kunal loved this surprise from his wife if he hadn't had a change of heart.

And coming to fulfilling Kunal's dream again Kunal have a idea of Mauli involving in his dream if he had/have problem with that he should have said or even tell it now but Kunal never showed any kind of getting annoyed/suffocated by her care/love anything to call it as a flaw or she dominating Kunal.

For me her biggest flaw is her trying to make Nandini/Kunal comfortable with each other in the same way she is with them which annoys me like hell because one should know you can't make your husband behave in a same comfort he is with you or make your best friend talk with your husband as a close friend.

I'm just going to reiterate. Whether Nandini was in their lives or not, Mauli wasn't right in deciding to have a baby, because that's not what I as a wife would do, and in my opinion, not something any wife should do. Just because Kunal was ready yesterday doesn't mean he's ready today too. And if she is so good at reading Kunal's emotions about being ready for a baby, why is she ignorant of his aloof behavior in the recent past? If she thinks that giving him the surprise of family planning is going to cheer him up, it is a very bad call on her part. Having a baby doesn't fix things...in fact a couple should only have a baby when they are both in a very stable phase and 100% sure. And no spouse has the right to make this decision alone. My husband and I went from yes to no to yes again and again when we decided to have a baby...and we didn't start trying till we were very sure.


I don't think I ever saw signs of Kunal expecting Mauli to fulfil his dream. In fact, I don't think they've ever discussed it in detail. This is what I don't understand...a couple so much in love is more busy discussing Nandini than their future plans. Mauli is just assuming that Kunal will be happy with the clinic, but will he? As for Kunal not being annoyed or suffocated by her care or her crossing the line by caring too much, some things in a marriage build over time. This might just be one of those. I'm not saying that I'm absolutely sure of their equation or what issues they have, but I'm just trying to analyze their relationship. Because their marriage is almost unrealistically blissful, which is something I cannot digest. Nandini coming into their lives might just be a catalyst to bring forward the issues in their marriage which may have surfaced a lot later.
Edited by iota - 7 years ago

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