Rewind and Review - Episode 13 - Page 4

EPISODE 13:

This episode highlights how men use their physical strength,coercion ,abusive language to get power over women.They cannot speak logic and win over with valid arguements and opt for shouting or beating.

Babli and Vicky have a connect which pure and beautiful.He is aware of what she is going through aftrr marriage.Vineet....crineworthy character like Mr.Bhalla.He is taking advantage of patriarchial thoughts of Mr.Bhalla and abusing Babli.Anokhi stood for her sister bravo girl!The look she gave to Ramaa after knowing about babli...asking how can a mother not protect her child? Babli is super wise not to have child with a jerk of her husband who is a nikamma. Some women accept their fate and start compromising self respect too to maintain peace in the family.Ramaa and Babli are two such examples in front of Anokhi who are suffering because they dont take stand for themselves.Till now education was her dream and now it has become Zid.

Similarly Shaurya's Zid overpowerd his relationship with Shagun

Shaurya being on a giving end for Badi maa,Bade papa wants to be on opposite side and be loved.Comparing Aastha and judging Shagun based on his past experience,he is showing emotions how he had been trained all these years.Shagun's words are on point.Where is love?Shaurya loved her intelligence,admired her teaching skills in farewell party but wants to cage her and keep her away from her dreams just to cover up for his insecurities.Badimaa spoiled him enough and Shaan Aastha were absentee of parents.Shaurya's heart is full of love but is gaurded.So his love is through mind but this is caging Shagun.Badimaa's personality rubbed on Shaurua.Both make things about themselves.During Goa track he said to Devi after she announces engagement not to make it about herself.Nikki puttar kanaged to Change Shaurya

He shall be knowing what true love is through Anokhi.Shaguns's words make him restless and his inner turmoil is fantastically potrayed by KV.Everytime i see Shaurya scenes iam reminded of how spineless of a man Shaan was.

Shaurya and Anokhi win over their Zid and find love in each other.

Raja bhaiyya is another nikamma in making.

Precap SIAC exams preparation and Anokhi trapped into marriage .

To be contrary(for fun), it's interesting to me that Anokhi sees her mom's acceptance of her fate/decision as not fighting for her daughter. But when it comes to Aastha having given up on her son due to her life decisions, Anokhi never judges her. It's a double standard she applies because she's blinded by her admiration for Aastha.

True.If we talk about episode 7, during the bridge scene Aastha tells Anokhi that she lost some thing precious in her life become self dependent.Anokhi says that she used to pray god for courage to achieve her dreams.Aastha gave her the direction to her dreams and that's the reason why she respects Aastha a lot.Courage,fighting for what is right is missing in Ramaa and Babli.

Aastha's flaws as mother to Shaurya were not visible to Nikki.

We actually dont know why Aastha didnot fight for Shaurya?One of the most important tracks left untouched

Originally posted by: kiranpri

That is a very good point you raised. Anokhi cannot see any wrong in Astha mam. She has placed the latter on a pedestal and is blind to her any faults.

I feel all mothers in SAAKK have failed in their role as mother... Be it Rama, BM or Asthaa.

Very true. Because she had a nice mom, Anokhi has a high opinion on mothers. When Aastha was in hospital(when she learned that Shaurya was Aastha's son) she told Shaurya that a mom can be "wrong", but can't be 'bad'. She doesn't acknowledge that just like a father can be toxic for their child, so can a mom, like Devi. Anokhi definitely has some blind spots.

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Originally posted by: kiranpri

The episode today was incredible in the sense that:

• It showed how parents fail their daughters when the latter faces domestic violence.
• a girl is also partly to be blamed when they do nothing against domestic violence, this is pointed out by Anokhi to Babli.
• I've already expressed this, but I disagree that women are to be blamed for the violence perpetuated by their abuser. Could Rama speak up against Ramesh and get kicked out of her home? Yes, but then she would have no home, no where to go, and she would have to leave her children behind. Could Babli leave Vineet? Again yes, but she would not be welcomed back in the Bhalla home and she has no education or job to fall back on. These may seem like choices but they're choices made by survivors not victims.
  
• How men of a certain 'soch' flock together, Ramesh Bhallah, raja Bhallah and Vineet. Son in laws are treated as royal since they have now taken the responsibility of the daughter, a mahaan kaam by the way the Bhallah man are fawning around Vineet.
• Mothers are the backbone of the family. If a mother does not protect/support her child then the daughters are treated like they have no value. I really got very angry when Rama Bhalah said the day she married she left all these fight etc in the fire. Whatever the situation, when your daughter tells you she is being beaten, you have to do something about it. She has it in her mind this is normal, women's fate are as such. It is not like she is living on a desert island where she does not see what is going around her. She has no excuses and need to take responsibility of her inaction. SAAKK shows us how weak mothers (Rama), domineering women (BM, cannot say mother as she does not act like one, it is always about her) and irresponsible mothers (Asthaa, for having left her son in the care of Sabherwal knowing full well how they are) affect the lives of their children (Babli, Anokhi and Shaurya).
• I agree with some of this and disagree with some of this. I may just have a skewed viewpoint based on witnessing domestic violence in my extended family and seeing how the women had to get remarried to provide for their children after they left their abusive spouses. I've also seen the stigma of a "divorced" woman versus the abusive man getting remarried soon after. I have a hard time putting the blame on the victim. As for Aastha, I totally agree that she was an irresponsible mother who should have checked on her son's well being sometime in the 25 years. Devi is a toxic mother who wasn't raising a child, but a possession she could control.
  
• Vineet is the lowest of scum who is asking his wife to join the 'dancers' and earn her living there. How can parents accept such remarks against their children.
• the faux parallel between Shaurya and Anokhi was interesting. Here we have a girl doing exactly everything Shaurya is all against. The way the makers switched from one Shaurya to Anokhi scene was really good.
• Dua/Baddua had an effect on Shaurya as he must be thinking, what if? What would I do if I really do fall in love some day? At the moment he has control over his emotions, but he also knows how emotional and attached he can be, hence what will happen if his heart is involved?
• I was thinking the same thing. The intercut while Shaurya/Shagun spoke with Anokhi was well done! And to see Shaurya so disturbed by Shagun's words was also handled well. He was rattled by the idea that he could love and it could be one sided and that it would be against his family's values. I really enjoyed that Shaurya's mask fell and he felt more human.
  
• I was really angry when rama Bhalah was forcing a laddoo in Anokhi's mouth all happy her daughter would be married off to Canada. She knows full well Anokhi wants to study, but it looks like, like Mr Bhallah she also wants to get rid of her daughter, then she can take care of her laadla beta, raja...
• I was sooooooo mad at that ladoo scene too. The fact that Rama is all smiles as if the Khannas/Monty are in any way worthy of her daughter. She saw how her daughter was treated, yet she's also willing to have someone else deal with the headache of her assertive daughter.
  

We have the character sketch of Vineet and he does justice to it all throughout the serial.

We also have the ground work all set up now for Shaurya aur Anokhi.

We have a shagun who is supposed to have been in love but her expression does not portray it one little bit.

I laughed when Shagun said, I gave you my heart and you gave it back to me broken in pieces. I don't know if it's Bhavna's acting choice or if Shagun is supposed to be so serene(and classy?). I didn't feel her pain at all! There was definitely no passion in that love story. She told Shaurya he loved with his head, I don't know what she loves with, but it's not her heart.

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Originally posted by: anuprem

I always felt Shaurya never really loved Shagun. Their love was very superficial. Shagun maybe loved him but did not understand him much.

I had the same feeling. I think this might be an acting choice gone wrong. Bhavna chose to play Shagun as "classy" and "serene" and very "poised". She didn't blow up on Shaurya. She didn't go crazy. She just accepted and left. Very surface level emotions.

The audacity of Vineet to physically abuse Babli when her parents are there. He is so confident that he will not be questioned by anyone. Good that Anokhi threatened to file a police complaint. Anokhi's mother could not meet Anokhi's eyes when she was questioned by her. Both Babli and Rama are helpless.

Shagun's badua was the highlight of the episode. What she wished/cursed happened. How I wish either Shaurya or Shagun had got a flashback of this badua when Shaurya married Anokhi.

Sameeee. I wish they had reshot that scene so we could see the badua be remembered by both of them. It would have been nice to see Shagun call Shaurya out.

Yes Raja was happy when he saw that Anokhi was appearing for SIAC entrance exam. Makers unnecessarily spoiled his character and used him for whitewashing Mr Bhalla.

Yes! They had to redeem someone and they chose the dad over the brother. I think he had a higher chance of redemption. He seemed to go along with his dad's plans more than actually being innately evil.

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Originally posted by: black.snowflake

Oh! I am always super excited for this episode...because... foreshadowing!

I love foreshadowing!!!❤️

YES!!! Especially now that we know what's coming.

Okay...Babli and Vicky...what a beautiful moment captured! The story almost hurts. He loves her, from a distance, respecting her boundaries. Meets her on random chances. Does not follow her like a devdas. Babli and Vicky deserved to finish their story. I am salty.🥺

The potential of that love story. We could have gotten so much after Holi!!

Vineet is a typical abuser. Thinks he owns his wife, blames her for enticing men, hates when she enjoys or is happy and blames her for his anger and abuse. Typical abuser's pattern. Atleast they did their research well. Sad part was when Bhalla senior took his side. Beating women up is so normalised in the society. It breaks my heart. What have we come to.

Mr. Bhalla is an abuser himself, so it would be hypocritical for him to even take offense. Also men supporting men upkeeps the status quo where men stay in power.

Anokhi standing up for her di. She is fierce when it comes to someone she loves. Goa proved it. But on the other hand , she does not understand why her mother and sister are silent. One of the faults that anokhi has, she is unable to get perspective of women who are silent. She is unable to understand why. The way she cradles her sister with softness. I love it when her soft side comes out.

I love that Anokhi might not understand but she always runs to help and always stands by those that need it. Her righteousness(even misplaced) is a quality I love.

The Raja anokhi bond of 5 mins...where he says he will help her with money. I really though raja would be a nice big brother. So wrong on that account

The potential that Raja had.......wasted!

Now. Shaurya and Shagun!

Was it love? Or was it just comfort and understanding? She is right if he loved her, he loved her from his brain. She did not move him, did not make him him uncomfortable. How selfishly he asks her to throw away her career and the. Somehow makes it about himself. Oh he is such a pigheaded man!! Shagun is right, love is not when the other person does what you say and what you want. That's not how it works. But shaurya has time to learn that.

How on point was her prediction, that one day he would fall for someone completely opposite and inline what his family wants. (I like how they cut the scene to Kapurthala to show a fierce anokhi stand up to men)

And the funny thing is when he actually fell in love with such a girl, he was like an arrow to target, nothing else mattered. There was never a fight in his mind. He wanted to be with her and he made it happen. This makes me think that for the first time he found acceptance and honestly in someone and he refused to let it go.

I loved the whole Shaurya/Shagun conversation. It showed us who Shaurya is........and his evolution had to to have a foundation. And to intercut that who Anokhi is was great. You're so right about Shaurya having tunnel vision when he fell in love. You see the difference in the love stories, where he didn't fight at all for Shagun, but he fought to the maximum for Anokhi.

One thing I did not understand why did he revisit shagun's words at home?

I think it was to show how unsettled he was by Shagun's words. It also showed that he was human. When Shagun said the words, he had too much ego to show any emotion. But alone, his mask fell, and we got to see the man behind it all. That was my interpretation.

Originally posted by: deepsea_27

To be contrary(for fun), it's interesting to me that Anokhi sees her mom's acceptance of her fate/decision as not fighting for her daughter. But when it comes to Aastha having given up on her son due to her life decisions, Anokhi never judges her. It's a double standard she applies because she's blinded by her admiration for Aastha.

True.If we talk about episode 7, during the bridge scene Aastha tells Anokhi that she lost some thing precious in her life become self dependent.Anokhi says that she used to pray god for courage to achieve her dreams.Aastha gave her the direction to her dreams and that's the reason why she respects Aastha a lot.Courage,fighting for what is right is missing in Ramaa and Babli.

Aastha's flaws as mother to Shaurya were not visible to Nikki.

We actually dont know why Aastha didnot fight for Shaurya?One of the most important tracks left untouched

@underline: Aastha's real story was not revealed. I feel like the PH had built up a good reason. Hopefully they can delve into that in season 2. I also don't think that Aastha/Shaurya track go justice.

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Originally posted by: deepsea_27

EPISODE 13:

This episode highlights how men use their physical strength,coercion ,abusive language to get power over women.They cannot speak logic and win over with valid arguements and opt for shouting or beating.

Ramaa and Babli are two such examples in front of Anokhi who are suffering because they dont take stand for themselves.Till now education was her dream and now it has become Zid.

Similarly Shaurya's Zid overpowerd his relationship with Shagun

I loved the use of 'zid' by both of them. Anokhi's zid is to acquire education and freedom and Shaurya's zid is to cage his significant other. It's funny what changes are coming into Shaurya's life with the appearrance of Anokhi.

He shall be knowing what true love is through Anokhi.Shaguns's words make him restless and his inner turmoil is fantastically potrayed by KV.Everytime i see Shaurya scenes iam reminded of how spineless of a man Shaan was.

Yes!! KV did a fantastic job showing Shaurya's emotion and restlessness. Shaurya was really affected by Shagun's words.

Shaurya and Anokhi win over their Zid and find love in each other.

I think Anokhi's zid won, as hers was a dream of education and freedom, while his was regressive in soch. I'm glad to see he could put aside his zid when the time was right and when the person was right.

Originally posted by: AK_2010

That was extactly what Anokhi taught him right... "Pyaar mei saath nibhaya jata hai..." She reminded him that he fell in love with Anokhi Bhalla! The woman she is, her dreams, her confidence and her persona...

If she gives that away to be with him, she won't be that woman anymore!

Either Shaurya never loved Shagun or Shagun didn't really take her dreams seriously to agree to such conditions kept forward by him. Maybe both!

The biggest problem in such families is the normalizing of such practices.

It keeps going on and on in a cycle and and people accept it as a part of their life. This is what MOST regressive traditions are based on. Rama Bhalla submitted to her fate because she seen other do the same, now she expects her daughters to follow on those same footsteps. Thankfully, Anokhi Bhalla knows where to draw the line when it comes to such 'traditions'.

Ramesh Bhalla and Raja are the trashiest people I have seen, admitting that there are ppl worse than them... All in the name of male entitlement and toxic masculinity. Rama Bhalla has left no chance to let them believe it either.

-Shagun's badua!! Anokhi might not have any gun the Sabherwals wanted for their bahu, but she has all that Shaurya needed to be his imperfect biwi

I think the only eligibility criteria to be Shaurya Sabherwal's wife is to love him truly, deeply, madly. Beneath that layer of misogyny and arrogance lays a child who craves true love. And fortunately, Anokhi is very loving 😊

Soon Shaurya will realize that ambitious women can love as honestly and loyally as a housewife does.

Shaurya's definition of love evolved once he met Anokhi. Maybe he didn't appreciate that one can fall head over heels in love. He had done the compatible upper crest style love. Maybe he needed the passionate middle class version!😉

I've always admired Anokhi's steadfast thinking. It can get irritating when she reads the situation wrong. But when she's right, she will question and take anyone to task to correct what she views as wrong. She doesn't do 'norms' or 'traditions' or going with the flow!

I like Shaurya's criteria. Simple and to the point. Love him and he'll love you tenfold. Anokhi and Shaurya are great at being loyal, even to those undeserving of that loyalty. Anokhi gets picked on for the "deeply" part but I think her love for Shaurya ends up being just as resolute as his. But she has a tendency to flee the scene, so we question her love a lot more.

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Originally posted by: kiranpri

As you said it, we have our opinions based on our experience, I have not experienced first hand the situation of domestic violence, but then I come from a small island of 1 million population and there are so many facilities given to women who face this problem of domestic violence. It also depends on the character of the woman, some despite all the trials and tribulations will still fight because they are like that, but others do not have this capacity to face off.

You're from Mauritius right? I'm so glad that such facilities exist there. India just has a highly patriarchal society but also just too big of a population to really take care. But I also see it in the US, so maybe it's just certain societies don't care. You know how they say 'If you can see it, you can be it'. I think maybe many women have not seen successful independent women from their own strata of society, so they can't conceive that there might be options for them.

Even her tears/ uncertainties wrt Shaurya was all about herself and how she will be affected.

I believe the actress does not know how to emote, she was classy in looks but love, no, no way. But then we are biased as we have Anokhi and Shaurya chemestry to compare it with.

She was crying so serenely that she was expressionless.

Maybe her gut, definitely not her heart.

It's true that I'm comparing ShaSha chemistry to ShaKhi and you can't compete with Shaurya and Anokhi's chemistry. It's explosive!

Shaurya may not have been in love at all but he showed much more feelings by not showing any feeling, if you know what I mean.

Shaurya at least dropped the mask and got angry.