My View on the Whole MU/Tashan Track between HaYa

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Hello everyone , I m so sorry for missing in action this week .. There were real life issues which kept me totally off from virtual world .. Though I could at least inform my friends on twitter , but sorry could not inform anyone here on IF ..

Anyways things hv settled down on the real life front , so I m just back today 😃 .. I m planning to do a joint take this weekend for all 5 episodes .. So will put it up tomorrow as even today I hv little time and cannot manage a full take ..

I just want to mention few points about this whole Misunderstanding track between HaYa ..

There are always two sides of a coin ..One side is clearly visible while the other side gets easily overshadowed because one side is too strong and directly on your face but the real solution actually lies in the other side ..

Let me mention both the sides ..


First side is Saumya's rude and ungrateful behaviour towards Harman which is now unacceptable .. She can trust everyone in the world from her mahaan sister Surbhi who once forced her to commit suicide to her devil father Maninder who tried to kill her multiple times to Saya who in childhood always tried to separate her from her mother Nimmi to Preeto who always tried to separate her from her husband .. She could even forgive them all easily .. But when it comes to Harman , his one wrong sentence and the world comes crashing down for her ...Neither she made any effort to find out the reason behind his rejection that night nor she is in a mood to give him a second chance , something that she has given to every other relation in her life but Harman is like an exception for her ..This is where Audience r unable to connect with her as they cannot understand why suddenly she is so stubborn and filled with hatred towards Harman as if he committed some heinous crime which cannot b forgiven or forgotten or sorted ..

This side which is shown to the viewers is too strong and on our face especially with Saumya's rude dialogues like he will hv to pay her for even drooling over her as if she is some object or she agreeing to Ballu's taunt regarding the makret girl comment which totally contradicts her fight for her identity because kinners r not market girls who will go and sell themselves ..right ?🤔 ... All this is making us hate Saumya to the core because these things r too blunt and shoved on our face directly especially the Bangkok selling part ..

And this is exactly what the CVs want .. They want us as well as Harman to finally give up on Saumya and hate her .. Unless we and Harman start disliking her , how can they bring her redemption track and create the impact ? ...If Saumya melts because of Harman's love or pampering , then there is no room for redemption as it will b proved that she still loves him and is just faking her hatred/anger for his happiness which will look like sacrifice and there is no room for redemption if its her sacrifice ..right ? 🤔 Redemption is possible only when she commits a mistake and so they r showing her character as blunt as possible when it comes to being rude and wanting freedom from him so that tomorrow when truth comes out , she realises her mistake and goes all the way out to redeem herself .. Personally I would prefer her to b badass right now than become a sacrificing woman because only then I can expect her redemption track ..

Now comes the second side of the coin which is somewhere overshadowed and brushed off under the carpet thanks to Saumya's rude and arrogent behaviour with Harman .. Other side is Saumya's identity truth which someday or the other Harman will hv to tell the society , because only then the likes of HarPreet and Saya can b defeated and who better than our hero Harman to defeat these villains .. right ? 😃...So once Saumya has her realisation , redemption and confession , I expect CVs to finally show the HaYa vs Society track after Harman reveals her identity to the society .. But this should come only after Saumya finds out the reason behind why Harman dint accept her identity that birthday night .. Or else if he reveals her identity now thus giving in to her demand even before she knows the truth , then it will look like Saumya's POV was always right about Harman running away from truth which is not really the case .. So its important Saumya first knows the truth before Harman reveals her identity ...

Reason why I m saying this is because of yesterday's starting scene which made me feel that somewhere people like HarPreet and Saya r trying to cash in on this only weakness of Harman .. Yesterday When Harman got drunk and passed out , it gave opportunity to the likes of HarPreet and Saya to further paint his image black in front of Saumya by lieing that how he dont hv guts to accept her identity in front of people in the party , and so got drunk which is not really the truth ...And Harman wakes up only after the entire brainwashing session is over 😆 .. Its just to drag this MU, they made Harman pass out first so that HarPreet and Saya can feed nonsense in Saumya's mind about why he got drunk today knowing well that Saumya has trust issues, and even Harman wont know that Saya actually demanded HarPreet to reveal her truth in party today because if he knew , he would hv happily done it and MU would hv been over there and then 😆 .. So yeah They just hv to drag this whole MU to extreme limits 😆 .. But somewhere it does continuously give a warning signal that Saumya's identity issue will keep coming between them with others trying to take advantage unless Harman himself reveals it to the society and shuts Preeto and Harak's mouth who were yesterday gloating about how Harman himself dont want to do this which was nothing but a big lie

Again this is exactly what CVs want 😆 ..They want Saumya to keep believing that Harman wants to run away from her truth reason why even the other day when Harman got drunk and told her that he is ready to reveal her truth whenever and wherever she wants but first listen why he dint do this earlier , Saumya dint listen to it at all but yesterday when he was drunk again and Saumya too was sitting there , he dint tell it 😆 because obviously CVs dont want Saumya to know the truth or else MU will b resolved and if its resolved then again there is no room for Saumya's redemption or love confession ..Even Saya does a palti and talks nonsense against Harman in front of Saumya when Saya knows well that he came to the kinner house with society people to reveal her truth after Saumya left for Bangkok , but how can Saya tell the truth , it will end the MU na which CVs dont want 😉😆


So yes these r 2 sides of the same coin and the coin here is HaYa misunderstanding 😆 ..One side is Saumya's not trusting Harman and other side is Harman not revealing her identity ... While Harman not revealing her identity has a valid reason because of which we r ignoring that part in this misunderstanding even though its actually the main hukum ka ikka in resolving the whole MU😉 😆 ,but Saumya not trusting Harman actually dont hv a valid reason because she is clearly getting influenced by Preeto/Saya here as we saw in that birthday night flashback and even yesterday episode and so most viewers r concentrating on this aspect right now and this is where her redemption becomes important in next track ...Post redemption , Harman finally telling her truth to the society will b a perfect closure to this whole track which actually started with a kinner's death and so will make sense if it ends with a kinner getting her identity with due respect in society finally but not before the kinner (Saumya) herself learns to value her identity and not demean it by calling herself a market girl , reason why redemption becomes important before the society track ..

And with redemption I dont mean she has to give any agni pareeksha or anything 😆 ..Also redemption dont mean sacrificing or glorifying side characters ... Since CVs hv a twisted mind , so need to make it clear 😆 .. With redemption I mean she need to verbally express her love for Harman and show that same madness and passion in love which Harman is showing right now by doing various romantic things for him to manaofy him as I m assumnig after today he takes a vow , he will give up on her as a husband , so she will hv to make all efforts to win him back as a wife ... The way he went all the way to Bangkok fighting against all odds , I want to see that same passion in Saumya where she can fight everyone from Preeto to Saya just for her Harman ji .. And thats redemption in my book ...


Where exactly the CVs went wrong with this whole Tashan and MU track was forcibly involving the likes of Preeto or Surbhi in it and making it more of a public tamasha.. Something that should hv been strictly between HaYa has now become a topic of gossip for the entire Singh family and thats where I feel CVs lost the steam of the tashan Track .. Instead of bringing out the raw passion of anger and hidden sexual tension between HaYa in this track , they wasted it on Preeto's plotting and Surbhi's CIDgiri ... Instead of showing Saumya in alone wondering why she feels hurt after hurting Harman when she herself wants to get rid of this marriage , CVs r busy giving monologues to Surbhi about how Harman cannot do this or that thus glorifying her character more ..Yes this track is suppose to make us hate Saumya but CVs forgot that Saumya is a human with emotions and not a robot , so in alone she got to at least cry which was never shown to us .. So yes lack of passion and emotional connect went completely missing in this MU/Tashan track that was needed or else the idea behind the MU track was quite good , but execution and screenplay fell flat


Phew I tried my best to balance my view on this whole misunderstanding track from both Harman and Saumya's POV and also where CVs went wrong ... Tried my best to see it from a neutral POV without making my own assumptions based on my bias , but strictly what I saw in the episodes

This is not any episode take but more of my view on the whole MU track and the ongoing debate of Harman vs Saumya ... Will do my 5 episodes joint takes on weekend 😳

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Posted: 8 years ago
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amazing analysis jytoi❤️
i was ok with this MU till last week but this week its totally crap

hope thy dont spoil next track like this one 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: zubeada

amazing analysis jytoi❤️

i was ok with this MU till last week but this week its totally crap

hope thy dont spoil next track like this one 😆



thats the problem .. they always spoil it .. redemption ke naam pe they will show sacrifice 😆 .. thats why I made it clear what redemption actually means if thats the next track hopefully 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyoti06



thats the problem .. they always spoil it .. redemption ke naam pe they will show sacrifice 😆 .. thats why I made it clear what redemption actually means if thats the next track hopefully 😆


i dont want any sacrfice its time soumya accpt harman & trust him fully
bcz hes the only one thinking rightly about her
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Posted: 8 years ago
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That's my biggest fear...& it's very much possible looking at their track record & wat she's done in the past lol her character always goes on sacrifice mode...🤔 Even last time in trio she went on sacrifice mode & I just hate that abt her but that time things were completely different now things r different coz now if she again goes back to sacrifice mode it won't make shy sense obviously Coz he won't run after her anymore he has done that infinite times 😆 & I will be strictly against if she's planning for another sacrifice...😳 Let her go but Harman shouldn't follow it beg to her anymore...If they wanna show redemption which I really doubt they will as they lack brains


The best way is saumya getting to know the truth but not by surbhi... Don't want her unnecessary interference can't even bear her face 😵 So the kinnars who witnessed the murder incident should reveal it to saumya I feel that's the only way it will make sense...Then they can show realisation & regret & finally saumya's redemption 😳
She should prove her love to him this time by manaoing him doing cute gestures for him 😛Actually she should everything he did for her till today hahaa I know that's too much to ask for but even small gestures will do but he shouldn't give in so easily let her cry , & long for him like he's longing for her...😈 even the auience will enjoy it... Only then I will connect & sympathize wid her again


But I don't expect anything from this dumb team of Shakti...I won't be surprised if they show another sacrifice by saumya lol 🤣
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Posted: 8 years ago
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N you r back with a bang... awesome post..

Can I just add something to the meaning of saumya's redemption track...I want her to gain some self-respect so that she stop listening taunts of everyone, she should learn that how many times those peoples misused her for their benefit whom she thought her well-wishers like surbhi nani saya etc, she should gain that much needed confidence so that she can tell everyone that even if she is kinner then also she deserves everything including a loving n carring hubby harman too, n it's high time that she question mannu also that why can't he accept her n many childrens born with defect but their parents should have no problem in accepting them.

N nooo.. don't tag my fav show CID with that useless surbhi..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Welcome back Jyothi.Missed your posts a lot.i lost all my hopes on soumya's confession and redemption track. i dont trust useless ,duffer writers and director anymore.it looks like ,next week is going to be again harman and surbhi track,as usual soumya begging harpreet and in sacrificing mode which i am gonna give a miss.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Pureful post Jyoti👏 👏 👏 👏 👏Welcome back my love ;I miss badly your retakes😉Yes coin have two faces like you said and I can admit your point of view somewhere bcz you're doing it like CVS are showing and viewers are understanding the show but my dear there is a big truth that we must admit all ;HaYa characters and especially Saumya character are sketched wrongly by makers.How do you expect that viewers understand Saumya character and connect with her;viewers are even watching Harman showing usually his love and doing the impossible to to make Saumya understand his love as Humiliation. They have a wrong conception of true lover due to the mindset.Can't blame them it's their mindset and Harman character is new;Haman is an "unconditional true lover" ,Haya are unconditional lovers " and their love story is" unconditional love story" .CVS have sketched HaYa characters badly and spoiled Saumya character and this not good for the show and the topic of the show.
What i'm watching is that HaYa are becoming just as guests in the show😡How can this happen and how can leads actors of the show treated in such way.Makers have to decide what they want .If they have chosen to treat the topic of TG ;they must assume that and concentrate with the topic of the show bcz it's a very good topic.Makers mustn't roam around the topic and showing that storm of side drama.We know it's a daily soap and side drama must exist but they must show us a balanced episodes concentrating in the lead actors and the topic of the show.CVS must give importance to HaYa scenes in the script making in their mind the characteristics of an unconditional couple;they must show their problems ,struggles ,their reciproque pains and how they're curving for each other in this MU track.CVS must be creative in HaYa scenes and especially in direction. HaYa scenes are very bad directed in this MU track ;CVS are always in a hurry in showing HaYa scenes; don't know if side chars drama are more important that HaYa or not.
Really feal bad when I see that our beloved show can be in top chart trp and makers are spoiling the show.They have to wake up bcz Shakti is accepted and loved by viewers and they must have an efficient team who work for the goddess of the show.
I'll say them why you can't do a good work like Bangkok track? Why not writing a good script concentrating especially I showing Saumya feelings and giving her monologues? and a lot of????? Saumya is TG ;she humiliated twice first as TG by family and society and secondly in your show.Yes Saumya character is humiliated by you bcz a damaged sketch of her character is an humiliation for a TG.Harman also was humiliated in your show ;you gave a bad sketch of unconditional true lover bcz showing only his efforts of showing love without showing his lady love pains is an humiliation for Harman character. Not giving an importance for Haya wordrobe and especially Harman and spending a fortune in side chars costumes is an humiliation for Harman.Plz wake up and give importance to HaYa and concentrate in HaYa making them the axe of the show and portray rightly their love story treating nicely the topic of the show.
About how other still brainwashing Saumya; wished really Harman is at least semi -conscient hearing some of their speech but CVS want him unconscious. Harman was drunk and we know that Harman when he's drunk he confess his love for his gulabo ..Why Harman didn't slips in their room with some clues words about his BD night...CVS won't that happen it's OK. But why don't showing Saumya great pains watching her husband in painful state and falling unconscious with an overdose of drink.Why ?He's her everything; he's unconscious and she can breaks down.Saumya is curving for him but can't accept his love again.
About Saya ;I say she has no choice; she only helped Saumya that she must accept playing the role of bahu.I think Saya understand Harman's love and it's clear when she's gone to Mandir praying to Saumya anniversary marriage .She said her she'll pray for both Saumya and Harman live happily. Saya won't interfere in Saumya choice she said her you can fight for your astitva.if Saumya listened to saya words bcz Saya is kinar like her and what she said her isn't against her wish and she can save her husband family honor. Saumya said her she won't hurt anyone but she wish leave this fake world😭
Saumya character do big progess but it's not shown;Saumya isn't puppet of anyone ;she's suffocated with everything arround and Harman love is suffocating her more bcz she's broken inside with that MU aND her freedom and her astitva become her priority . Thing surpassed also the MU .Saumya must feel Harman acceptance as his wife ;Saumya can't live in fake life full of fake feelings Saumya need her family in law acceptance; Saumya can't allow herself Harming Harman life and turning it a hell in name of love and especially feeling that he's making her his wife as a sympathy. A normal wife can never accepts that and how to say about Saumya.
Saumya locked Harman love in her heart ;hidden her pains and it's only her mind who is guiding her.I want to talk more but as you know I can't for personal issues but hope makers wake up as soon as possible.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Naaz695

That's my biggest fear...& it's very much possible looking at their track record & wat she's done in the past lol her character always goes on sacrifice mode...🤔 Even last time in trio she went on sacrifice mode & I just hate that abt her but that time things were completely different now things r different coz now if she again goes back to sacrifice mode it won't make shy sense obviously Coz he won't run after her anymore he has done that infinite times 😆 & I will be strictly against if she's planning for another sacrifice...😳 Let her go but Harman shouldn't follow it beg to her anymore...If they wanna show redemption which I really doubt they will as they lack brains


The best way is saumya getting to know the truth but not by surbhi... Don't want her unnecessary interference can't even bear her face 😵 So the kinnars who witnessed the murder incident should reveal it to saumya I feel that's the only way it will make sense...Then they can show realisation & regret & finally saumya's redemption 😳
She should prove her love to him this time by manaoing him doing cute gestures for him 😛Actually she should everything he did for her till today hahaa I know that's too much to ask for but even small gestures will do but he shouldn't give in so easily let her cry , & long for him like he's longing for her...😈 even the auience will enjoy it... Only then I will connect & sympathize wid her again


But I don't expect anything from this dumb team of Shakti...I won't be surprised if they show another sacrifice by saumya lol 🤣



Actually it wont make sense if she goes on sacrifice mode after realising her mistake .. because by then I m assuming Harman will b angry and wont run behind her anymore as we can see in new promo she is hurting herself .. so he might set her free .. After which she might find out truth from those kinners .. so after that she has to come back to him .. if she dont do that and he too dont go behind her , story ends then 😆 .. so logically its not possible ..

And yes let kinners tell her the truth .. plss no Surbhi mahanta .. she can continue to seduce Varun 😆😆
Edited by jyoti06 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: LuvRUBI

N you r back with a bang... awesome post..

Can I just add something to the meaning of saumya's redemption track...I want her to gain some self-respect so that she stop listening taunts of everyone, she should learn that how many times those peoples misused her for their benefit whom she thought her well-wishers like surbhi nani saya etc, she should gain that much needed confidence so that she can tell everyone that even if she is kinner then also she deserves everything including a loving n carring hubby harman too, n it's high time that she question mannu also that why can't he accept her n many childrens born with defect but their parents should have no problem in accepting them.

N nooo.. don't tag my fav show CID with that useless surbhi..



Yes its much needed .. I really hope she learns how to give it back to the likes of Preeto, Shanno etc once she finds out the truth and realises how Preeto tried to manipulate her mind against Harman ..

And its high time she stop listening to Saya and Surbhi's lectures too .. she need to realise the only person who actually cares for her well being is Harman .. he was the one to bring her back from Bangkok mess and not Saya , Nani or Surbhi ..

I too want her to question Mannu one day .. she seems to easily forgive him everytime he sheds few of those crocodile tears 😡

And yeah I realised Surbhi is no CID .. she is just a bol bachan 😆

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