Transgender Representation

Originally posted by: gudima

1)i started watching the show for getting some knowledge of transgender

2. Ya i was knowing from before soumya is transgender

3. If i have to introduce i will simply introduce her and i would be happy to be friends with her

4 i don't know about this twist if it is coming then let me know

5. I am really afraid with them i usually go is in accordance but one time due to reservation problem i have to go in sleeper and when i seen them i was horrified and when they came to my seat i simply slept

And this show didn't change my opinion but ya i would like if they would be given normal upbringing and if they would like to live and behave like a civilised person firstly i used to thought that they are only that kind from beginning

6.ya i googled to know about transgender

7.i don't know

8 and now i am not watching but only came to forum after many days i think

And honestly if i have to present this type of story i will never present it like that

I have liked to present that she was raised as an independent girl by hiding her identity and she was never interested in love or marriage and only wanted to be independent and raise a children by adopting a kinner child or any sex because i believe that a person can live alone because we have no right to affect others with my feeing and my thinking but a boy came in her life who started to love her and she refused but she also started to love him and slowly opened her truth first he was not able to cpaccept but as a true lover he later understood and faught for her and later they can show some politics of in laws and how they faught and later adopted a transgender child and they can show the struggle of how they faught for child even and how they make him ready

It would have gave positive figure of kinner and honestly i never expected this

And now it has only became a story of barren lady no more difference i am able to see between a barren lady and a kinner

So basically from this serial i only got the conclusion that whatever type of woman you are doesn't matter untill and unless you produce a child i honestly i hate this concept as due to this very reason i left my husband INSPITE of being pregnant

It really doesn't matter you are kinner or whatever if you produce a healthy child you are everything

Woman identity is only reduced to being a baby producing machine

As this is part of your research so I will try to ans honestly...

1. Why did you start watching the show? What was the first thing that attracted you to the show?

Im a Vivian Dsena fan.So he was the reason I started watching the show..

2. Were you aware of the fact that Soumya's character is a transgender before you decided to start watching the show? What was your reaction to this revelation?

Saumya is not transgender she is eunuch in show. Transgenders are physically normal but mentally feel they are in wrong body. So a boy thinks he is a girl and a girl thinks she is a boy. But saumya's condition is having ambiguous genitalia means existence of both male and female sexual organs.This is what I have deduced from watching the show as Saumya's parents know her condition since her birth.

And yes media had already given the spoiler that Saumya might be an intersex or eunuch.

As I was already aware so no reaction from my side.

3. What do you think of Soumya's character? Please write how would you introduce Soumya's character to a friend.

Saumya has a very meek personality which we can understand because she was constantly abused by her father and granny.But still a 21yr person not aware of her sexuality is too much to digest. I find this a big loophole.

Saumya keeps on taking irrational decision and is a confused personality and blindly follows her mother in laws orders. She is not aware of basic human nature thats why got her sister married to her husband without realising that her sister is a normal girl who will obviously not want to share her hubby. Saumya just wants to live in Singh household and can sacrifice anything for it be it her self respect, her dignity , her mental peace or her sister. Don't know what she has achieved through all this.

4. What was your reaction to Soumya's character 'not' being a transgender? What do you think was the reason behind the plot twist?

Its not been shown till now. And if something like that is shown then it will be highly stupid because it will show that saumya still doesn't know he difference between man, woman and eunuch.

5. Please write your honest opinion about the kinnar community. Did the show in any way affect your opinion about them?

I feel bad for Kinnar community because they are not given basic right to live with dignity which I feel is everyone' right.

This show just shows Kinnars in bad light because every kinnar is either kidnapper or murder only Saumya is good hearted but still she is also dumb and selfish.

So good that it didn't changed my opinion in any way because whatever they are showing is half baked n totally unrealistic.

6. Did you, at any point of watching the show. research about the kinnar community? Did you ever felt the urge to know more about the community? (Even googling it and reading Wikipedia counts )

I had my concepts clear about LGBT community already so dint do any research. I keep on reading news articles etc.

7. What do you think was the whole outcome of the 'transgender character'? What do you think was the reason behind it?

Didn't understood the question.

But what i understood is you mean whether the show has done any justice to the concept.

Then I would say No. A mother did not told a child about hard realities of life and made her weak.So much crime is shown in the show. Polygamy and forced marriage is glorified here.

This "eunuch"concept was just used to create hullabaloo in media and led to free promotion of show. Also roping in popular faces led to acceptance of show.

8. What is the reason that you still continue to watch the show?

I sometimes watch it by changing the channels. Can't tolerate so much of negativity like murder, pelting through stones, domestic violence and constant verbal abuses. Also kitchen politics shows bores me.

Originally posted by: naaznin

As this is part of your research so I will try to ans honestly...

1. Why did you start watching the show? What was the first thing that attracted you to the show?

Im a Vivina Dsena fan.So he was the reason I started watching the show..

2. Were you aware of the fact that Soumya's character is a transgender before you decided to start watching the show? What was your reaction to this revelation?

Saumya is not transgender she is eunuch in show. Transgenders are physically normal but mentally feel they are in wrong body. So a boy thinks he is a girl and a girl thinks she is a boy. But saumya's condition is having ambiguous genitalia means existence of both male and female sexual organs.This is what I have deduced from watching the show as Saumya's parents know her condition since her birth.

And yes media had already given the spoiler that Saumya might be an intersex or eunuch.

As I was already aware so no reaction from my side.

3. What do you think of Soumya's character? Please write how would you introduce Soumya's character to a friend.

Saumya has a very meek personality which we can understand because she was constantly abused by her father and granny.But still a 21yr person not aware of her sexuality is too much to digest. I find this a big loophole.

Saumya keeps on taking irrational decision and is a confused personality and blindly follows her mother in laws orders. She is not aware of basic human nature thats why got her sister married to her husband without realising that her sister is a normal girl who will obviously not want to share her hubby. Saumya just wants to live in Singh household and can sacrifice anything for it be it her self respect, her dignity , her mental peace or her sister. Don't know what she has achieved through all this.

4. What was your reaction to Soumya's character 'not' being a transgender? What do you think was the reason behind the plot twist?

Its not been shown till now. And if something like that is shown then it will be highly stupid because it will show that saumya still doesn't know he difference between man, woman and eunuch.

5. Please write your honest opinion about the kinnar community. Did the show in any way affect your opinion about them?

I feel bad for Kinnar community because they are not given basic right to live with dignity which I feel is everyone' right.

This show just shows Kinnars in bad light because every kinnar is either kidnapper or murder only Saumya is good hearted but still she is also dumb and selfish.

So good that it didn't changed my opinion in any way because whatever they are showing is half baked n totally unrealistic.

6. Did you, at any point of watching the show. research about the kinnar community? Did you ever felt the urge to know more about the community? (Even googling it and reading Wikipedia counts )

I had my concepts clear about LGBT community already so dint do any research. I keep on reading news articles etc.

7. What do you think was the whole outcome of the 'transgender character'? What do you think was the reason behind it?

Didn't understood the question.

But what i understood is you mean whether the show has done any justice to the concept.

Then I would say No. A mother did not told a child about hard realities of life and made her weak.So much crime is shown in the show. Polygamy and forced marriage is glorified here.

This "eunuch"concept was just used to create hullabaloo in media and led to free promotion of show. Also roping in popular faces led to acceptance of show.

8. What is the reason that you still continue to watch the show?

I sometimes watch it by changing the channels. Can't tolerate so much of negativity like murder, pelting through stones, domestic violence and constant verbal abuses. Also kitchen politics shows bore me.

Originally posted by: Frozen11

1. Why did you start watching the show? What was the first thing that attracted you to the show?

I'm a Vivian fan n started watching the show only for him.

2. Were you aware of the fact that Soumya's character is a transgender before you decided to start watching the show? What was your reaction to this revelation?

There were numerous media articles that the female lead is a TG. So was aware of the Concept of the show before it went on air. But the FL is actually an eunuch but this was not explained in detail in the show. It all comes under the word ' kinnar'.

3. What do you think of Soumya's character? Please write how would you introduce Soumya's character to a friend.

Soumya's character is too weak n dumb . A adult living in the 21st century has no idea of the human anatomy is a little difficult to believe. That too when she is living with her mom n sis n also has female friends around. Secondly, why she still wants to continue living in the Singh household taking all the insults is a mystery . Thirdly, for her own selfish reasons, she has forced her sis to marry her husband .

4. What was your reaction to Soumya's character 'not' being a transgender? What do you think was the reason behind the plot twist?

The ph n the channel will not change soumya's character now. That is stupidity. This will change the whole concept of the show. All their talk about creating awareness will look foolish. Moreover the actor has all agreed that soumya is a kinnar in the show.

5. Please write your honest opinion about the kinnar community. Did the show in any way affect your opinion about them?

The kinnar community is shown in a very bad light which I don't think is true. One kinnar killing another, plotting n kidnapping is all very unbelievable.

Yes, the kinnar community must get recognition n status in our society. They also deserve all the rights which normal ppl r enjoying.

6. Did you, at any point of watching the show. research about the kinnar community? Did you ever felt the urge to know more about the community? (Even googling it and reading Wikipedia counts 😆)

I did google to know more about eunuchs, TG n intersex.

7. What do you think was the whole outcome of the 'transgender character'? What do you think was the reason behind it?

This whole concept was just an eyewash by the ph n the channel. It is just business for them n they roped in big actors for the lead roles so that it will not be rejected by the Audience. All that talk by the ph about creating awareness for kinnar is just talk. What was promised is not shown. In the end it's just kitchen politics n waaris drama .

8. What is the reason that you still continue to watch the show?

I don't follow the show anymore. Just read written updates once in a while.

Hope my answers will help with ur research. Good luck!

Originally posted by: srksimran

1)I am a Vivian Dsena fan (Male Lead) moreover the concept looked intriguing to me.

2)Yeah there were rumours already. I wanted to see this show because i personally feel kinnars should get a proper status in society. I had expectations that this show will bring change in our society.

3)At this point Soumya's character really needs a change. She's been suffering all the hatred right from the beginning. It's time to stand up for her rights.
If it were early days of shakti i would have said that she is sweet but needs a right guidance and support to stand up for herself. But now by what all she did i think she herself is ashamed that she is one of them which she shouldn't be ashamed of. Most importantly her identity is still unclear she's not a transgender. But an intersex (ambiguous genitals)

4) Till now it's now shown. And think it is completely off topic. If this ever happens, it will ruin the show because the show is all about the upliftment of transgenders/kinners/eunuch. And if the main plot is shut shown the show has no meaning.

5) i really feel bad for them as they are human beings at least if not a man or a woman and that's enough to get the rights to stay in the society with full dignity. Till now show hasn't focused on real difficulties of kinnars. It is only focusing on married life but what about those who stand on the red lights and are involved in prostitution, education, job etc. For many people kinnars are the ones who stand on the red lights and beg for money and shower their blessings.

6) Yeah i researched many times. Read articles. Etc

7) I had lot of expectations with the character Saumya but sadly PH is ruining the character for trps and longevity.

8) A Hope. That Cvs will show something sensible.