What did Surbhi do in tonight Ep?

will you all please forgive me

See In India every religion ppl can marry as per their rituals n traditions...

However, second marriage will still constitute bigamy, albeit it would not be punishable and not void, and will give rise to cause of action in favour of first wife to seek divorce as per Dissolution of Muslim Marriages Act, 1939, if the husband does not treat the first wife as per injunctions of Quran.

Dere is lot of controversy going over Muslim men privilege to marry multiple tyms n Muslim women r also opposing polygamy n oral Talaaq. Indians r demanding same civil code for every individual.Bt due to Muslim vote bank parliament is not passing any such law. But very soon dere will b uniform marriage laws for all..

Now cuming back to dis Haya n Harbhi situation Im just copy pasting wat I wrote in another post...

Originally posted by: naaju

See In India every religion can marry as per their rituals n traditions...

In all religions except Islam only one wife is permitted but according to National Family Health Survey 2011 conducted by GOI , 1.7% hindu male, 2.1% christian male and 2.5% muslim male had more than one wife in india. But only Muslim personal law gives legal rights to second wife n her kids for other religion ppl it is like second marriage is totally invalid.N second wife n her children cant hv any claim over man n his property..

The Muslim Personal (Shariat) Law Application Act, 1937 makes it clear that the muslims in India are governed by the Shariat Law and not the codified law. Therefore, there is no legal bar against having more than one wives rather Indian Muslims are permitted to have as many wives as Quran permits them.

However, second marriage will still constitute bigamy, albeit it would not be punishable and not void, and will give rise to cause of action in favour of first wife to seek divorce as per Dissolution of Muslim Marriages Act, 1939, if the husband does not treat the first wife as per injunctions of Quran.

Dere is lot of controversy going over Muslim men privilege to marry multiple tyms n Muslim women r also opposing polygamy n oral Talaaq. Indians r demanding same civil code for every individual.Bt due to Muslim vote bank parliament is not passing any such law. But very soon dere will b uniform marriage laws for all..

Now cuming back to dis Haya n Harbhi situation Im just copy pasting wat I wrote in another post...

Harman n saumya r married but dis marriage is valid only till d tym society n Legal system doesnt knw abt Saumya being a eunuch...Becos LGBT marriages r invalid in India...

Generally ppl who get fooled into marrying eunuch get d marriage nullified n moves on...

Now see here d situation is like society will feel Harman n saumya r married den hw cum Harman married surbhi..Den society will ask dem n saumya's truth will cum out...So automatically Surbhi becomes legal wife of Harman...becos Harman's first marriage has no legal backing so he was a bachelor in d eyes of law...

LGBT cn get married in India bt dat marriage is null n void in d eyes of Law..So if a LGBT couple feels dat dey want legal status for their marriage den dey cn approach a court n present their case..Last year one lesbian couple in Gurgaon got legal status for their marriage bt such decisions r rare.

Originally posted by: naaju

See In India every religion can marry as per their rituals n traditions...

In all religions except Islam only one wife is permitted but according to National Family Health Survey 2011 conducted by GOI , 1.7% hindu male, 2.1% christian male and 2.5% muslim male had more than one wife in india. But only Muslim personal law gives legal rights to second wife n her kids for other religion ppl it is like second marriage is totally invalid.N second wife n her children cant hv any claim over man n his property..

The Muslim Personal (Shariat) Law Application Act, 1937 makes it clear that the muslims in India are governed by the Shariat Law and not the codified law. Therefore, there is no legal bar against having more than one wives rather Indian Muslims are permitted to have as many wives as Quran permits them.

However, second marriage will still constitute bigamy, albeit it would not be punishable and not void, and will give rise to cause of action in favour of first wife to seek divorce as per Dissolution of Muslim Marriages Act, 1939, if the husband does not treat the first wife as per injunctions of Quran.

Dere is lot of controversy going over Muslim men privilege to marry multiple tyms n Muslim women r also opposing polygamy n oral Talaaq. Indians r demanding same civil code for every individual.Bt due to Muslim vote bank parliament is not passing any such law. But very soon dere will b uniform marriage laws for all..

Now cuming back to dis Haya n Harbhi situation Im just copy pasting wat I wrote in another post...

Harman n saumya r married but dis marriage is valid only till d tym society n Legal system doesnt knw abt Saumya being a eunuch...Becos LGBT marriages r invalid in India irrespective of any religion...

Generally ppl who get fooled into marrying eunuch get d marriage nullified so no comlication arises in future n moves on...

Now see here d situation is like society will feel Harman n saumya r married den hw cum Harman married surbhi..Den society will ask dem n saumya's truth will cum out...So automatically Surbhi becomes legal wife of Harman...Becos Harman's first marriage has no legal backing so he was a bachelor in d eyes of law...

LGBT can get married in India bt dat marriage is null n void in d eyes of Law..So if a LGBT couple feels dat dey want legal status for their marriage den dey cn approach a court n present their case..Last year one lesbian couple in Gurgaon got legal status for their marriage bt such decisions r rare.

Check dis article for more clarification..

http://www.oddnaari.in/news/story/madhuri-sarode-transgender-woman-marriage-mumbai-124492-2017-01-03

@TM

I understand ur sentiments.Even I feel dat LGBT ppl shud get their rights becos every human is equal n every person shud have freedom to make their life choices.

Now coming to ur query-

Just becos saumya is eunuch n not gay or lesbian so wat. Hw does it makes any difference. Even Gay, lesbian n bisexual can't do anything abt dere sexual orientation. Though some ppl becum bisexual just for fun or adventure or a different taste.. Bt Gay n lesbians r like dat only n dey can't do anything abt their condition.Removing any organ surgically is a personal call but laws r made for a whole community at large not for individuals.LGBT is an umbrella term which covers intersex, eunuchs, transgenders, gays, lesbians n bisexuals...

(U asked abt saumya so i wud say dat Saumya had choice to make her life better wid a hubby like Harman n sis like Surbhi who accept n support her so much.But she chose to live a life full of humiliation. So no body cn help her. There is no free lunch everybdy has to fyt to get wat dey want...)

Our country is governed by certain laws which r formed by parliament n judiciary..Dere is some reason behind giving n nt giving somebody a right.

As per d sec377 of Indian penal code all forms of unnatural sex even oral n anal sex is an offence even if its between a married couple. So LGBT sex is an offence n few cases r also reported where police harasses homosexual ppl using dis law.

Dis law is highly regressive n dere was lot of demand to repeal it..So Delhi high court repealed it bt supreme court quashed its judgement n said only legislature can delete sec 377 of IPC n not judiciary.

Now cumin to why supreme court is not repealing sec 377. Its becos Indian society which still doesn't accepts LGBT ppl including eunuchs. N its very hard for dem to see LGBT couple becos dey r not used to it..Plus India has poor health infrastructure.. Bisexual n homosexual relationships increases d risk of sexually transmitted diseases in society..V dont have so much health facilities like western countries to control such diseases.V r still very much struggling on dis front...

So LGBT community r now struggling to get sec377 repealed n get a special marriage law passed which will make their marriage legal..

Like inter religion marriages r not recognisable as per religion laws. So Special Marriage Act, 1954 was enacted by Parliament of India to provide a special form of marriage for Indians all over world irrespective of the religion or faith followed by either party. So such a law is demanded by LGBT community now.

Gradually things r changing but will take tym as v r still in nascent phase of development..

I m quite glad to see ur interest in such matters becos law, sexuality, society, women rights etc r my favourite topic of discussion.

Originally posted by: naaju

@TM

I understand ur sentiments.Even I feel dat LGBT ppl shud get their rights becos every human is equal n every person shud have freedom to make their life choices.

Now coming to ur query-

Just becos saumya is eunuch n not gay or lesbian so wat. Hw does it makes any difference. Even Gay, lesbian n bisexual can't do anything abt dere sexual orientation. Though some ppl becum bisexual just for fun or adventure or a different taste.. Bt Gay n lesbians r like dat only n dey can't do anything abt their condition.Removing any organ surgically is a personal call but laws r made for a whole community at large not for individuals.LGBT is an umbrella term which covers intersex, eunuchs, transgenders, gays, lesbians n bisexuals...

(U asked abt saumya so i wud say dat Saumya had choice to make her life better wid a hubby like Harman n sis like Surbhi who accept n support her so much.But she chose to live a life full of humiliation. So no body cn help her. There is no free lunch everybdy has to fyt to get wat dey want...)

Our country is governed by certain laws which r formed by parliament n judiciary..Dere is some reason behind giving n nt giving somebody a right.

As per d sec377 of Indian penal code all forms of unnatural sex even oral n anal sex is an offence even if its between a married couple. So LGBT sex is an offence n few cases r also reported where police harasses homosexual ppl using dis law.

Dis law is highly regressive n dere was lot of demand to repeal it..So Delhi high court repealed it bt supreme court quashed its judgement n said only legislature can delete sec 377 of IPC n not judiciary.

Now cumin to why supreme court is not repealing sec 377. Its becos Indian society which still doesn't accepts LGBT ppl including eunuchs. N its very hard for dem to see LGBT couple becos dey r not used to it..Plus India has poor health infrastructure.. Bisexual n homosexual relationships increases d risk of sexually transmitted diseases in society..V dont have so much health facilities like western countries to control such diseases.V r still very much struggling on dis front...

So LGBT community r now struggling to get sec377 repealed n get a special marriage law passed which will make their marriage legal..

Like inter religion marriages r not recognisable as per religion laws. So Special Marriage Act, 1954 was enacted by Parliament of India to provide a special form of marriage for Indians all over world irrespective of the religion or faith followed by either party. So such a law is demanded by LGBT community now.

Gradually things r changing but will take tym as v r still in nascent phase of development..

I m quite glad to see ur interest in such matters becos law, sexuality, society, women rights etc r my favourite topic of discussion.

Sorry par mujha itna kuch malum nahi hai hum bas normal shadi ka janta hai humar yanha shadi ka rituals tv show sa vi alag hota hai nahi isha ma sindur daan nahi mangalsutra hota hai aaj tak jo vi dekha hai tv sa dekha hai.. Naaju hai wo details ma samjha degi😊

@naaju.. Kanha sa lati ho itna gyaan😳

I would just like to add to this interesting discussion something, which is that there's difference between sexual "orientation", and sexual "identity".
* Sexual "Orientation": is one's sexual preference, what gender they are attracted to(whether it's completely by choice, or completely ingrained since birth, or something in-between, is up to debate, and not my point here). And that's gay, lesbian or bi.
* Sexual "identity": is one's own gender, which is man, woman or "kinnar".

And so, for example, if someone's gender is "kinnar" (or "intersex"), who is mostly female, and is attracted to males, then she's a "straight" "kinnar", and shouldn't be included in the LGB communities, or be subject to the the laws that deal with them.

Or, in another example, if, a mostly male kinnar is attracted to men, then he is a "gay" "kinnar". And thereby, belong to the LGB communities.

So, just being an intersex or a "kinnar" does not automatically place them under the LGB umbrella.

And thus, I don't think Saumya's case apply to the same laws that deal with the LGB communities.

Originally posted by: Hend_Refai

see I'm watching Shakti from the start and when we all shocked by Somya truth that she is kinner I started thinking what if this happen to us what if I was Hurman sister what I will say to him and what if I was Somya what will I do and if I was Nemmi what will I do so I started searching to know kinner rights in Islam and if this marriage is valid or invalid in Muslims society and I was shocked by what I find out
Islam low treated kinner or eounch diffrently that gay or lesbian pplcause kinner they have no control of what they are but gay or lisben or bisextual it is their choice to be like that marrying gay or lisben or bisextual is invalid in Islam the fact they should banned from Muslim society by Islam low but they are not our topic now
kinner by birth they treated by their mostly gender if she mostly woman so she treated like woman she should cover her hair like any other woman she can marry a man like any other woman
and if he mostly man or male gender so he treated like a man he can be Imam in praying and he can marry any woman just like any other man

I'm like u, and u know what, me and my mother were just having this discussion, if Saumya's case married in Islam, would it be valid? We didn't actually get to researching it properly, but we reached the same conclusion by ourselves :)

Originally posted by: Hend_Refai

and Somya is not like that in Somya condition she alomst 90% female or higher we can't judge it without midical exmaination which the auther didn't do or think about it at all in shakti I don't know why

I also thought same thing in the beginning, but reading about kinnar history and the superstitions surrounding them, and the depth of most Indian people belief in those superstitions, I concluded that scientific info about the issue is pretty limited there.
I figured that authors were right at the beginning to approach the issue by convincing people that those kinnars are also normal human beings like the rest of us...
I was hoping that from there, they would start to explain that it's just a medical condition that could be easily treated in most cases... I was hoping for that anyway, but they ruined it all by this stupid Super-Evil-Saas-Preeto and the Stupid-Sister-Bahus...
Oh, well...

Originally posted by: Mona_90

Sorry par mujha itna kuch malum nahi hai hum bas normal shadi ka janta hai humar yanha shadi ka rituals tv show sa vi alag hota hai nahi isha ma sindur daan nahi mangalsutra hota hai aaj tak jo vi dekha hai tv sa dekha hai.. Naaju hai wo details ma samjha degi😊

@naaju.. Kanha sa lati ho itna gyaan😳