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Posted: 13 years ago
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As highlighted in another thread not enough discussion is being done in this forum so I decided on a topic that affects both men and women equally and in all facets of life (substandard medicines knowingly distributed, export of priceless heritage pieces, rubbish drivers allowed on the road, legitimate paperwork trapped for months, nepotism, illegal and poor construction allowed etc. ).

It would be interesting if people from different regions could discuss prevention methods or news they have heard about reforms against corruption. (Personal sob stories allowed 😆)

Very interesting initiative: http://www.blowyourwhistle.in/
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Posted: 13 years ago
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No sob stories here but my dad did file a report against my mama for taking bribes *jealousy cause central government employees cannot take the risk.
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I wish my Dad would put my Mama behind bars, but Dad is too tolerant and he won't let me do anything about that scum-rotten piece of trash either.

Corruption - before we stand against it let us learn to understand and distinguish corruption.

If a constable who stands in the smoke filled cacophony that is known as Indian roads, asks you for a mamool - I say, pay it. What he earns standing there is not going to cover the medical expenses of his bronchitis. Our govt. isn't paying him enough to cover his basic needs - take care of the education of his children, cover his housing or providing him with healthcare facilities. He isn't even provided with a simple mask.

When it comes to a politician skimming off hundreds of thousands of crores - confiscate all his property and anyone related to him by blood or marriage, has worked with him in the 20 yrs prior to his being exposed.

Have a public auction of all the properties owned by these people and distribute the proceeds via transparent means to schools, hospitals, orphanages etc.

Set up free medicare and education up to post-graduate level for all citizens in his constituency for the next 20 years - to be paid by the said politician.

Have such raids in every city. In one year's time the country would be corruption free.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: nirvanlove

No sob stories here but my dad did file a report against my mama for taking bribes *jealousy cause central government employees cannot take the risk.


wow, that's impressive. 👏 Half the problems of this world would die in infancy if people at home had the guts to tell their family that they're wrong.
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@TM=

Its difficult to address this post-corruption is SO pervasive in every day life.Would you consider making separate threads for corruption in different fields?


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: znursingh


@TM=

Its difficult to address this post-corruption is SO pervasive in every day life.Would you consider making separate threads for corruption in different fields?



Sure, but I think best way to distribute the topics would be to wait and see where the discussion is going. Any ideas what the subdivisions could be?

And speaking of informing authorities about corruption 🤢


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chitrashi



Corruption - before we stand against it let us learn to understand and distinguish corruption.

If a constable who stands in the smoke filled cacophony that is known as Indian roads, asks you for a mamool - I say, pay it. What he earns standing there is not going to cover the medical expenses of his bronchitis. Our govt. isn't paying him enough to cover his basic needs - take care of the education of his children, cover his housing or providing him with healthcare facilities. He isn't even provided with a simple mask.



This sort of brings to mind an article by Arundhati Roy - it appeared last year in The Hindu (I think??) when the Anna movement was at its peak. She spoke about the very poor who rely on this corrupt system ...

"...depends on how we view corruption. Is corruption just a matter of legality, of financial irregularity and bribery, or is it the currency of a social transaction in an egregiously unequal society, in which power continues to be concentrated in the hands of a smaller and smaller minority? "

Here is the full article:


Disclaimer: Knowing what extreme reactions even a mention of AR's name provokes, I feel obliged to add that I'm not an AR acolyte, nor I am a total skeptic...I am, however, willing to give her a fair hearing.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mahabhootni


wow, that's impressive. 👏 Half the problems of this world would die in infancy if people at home had the guts to tell their family that they're wrong.



well, he had to face a lot of flak for it and though the intentions were nothing related to corruption il shut my mouth,
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chitrashi

I wish my Dad would put my Mama behind bars, but Dad is too tolerant and he won't let me do anything about that scum-rotten piece of trash either.

Corruption - before we stand against it let us learn to understand and distinguish corruption.

If a constable who stands in the smoke filled cacophony that is known as Indian roads, asks you for a mamool - I say, pay it. What he earns standing there is not going to cover the medical expenses of his bronchitis. Our govt. isn't paying him enough to cover his basic needs - take care of the education of his children, cover his housing or providing him with healthcare facilities. He isn't even provided with a simple mask.

When it comes to a politician skimming off hundreds of thousands of crores - confiscate all his property and anyone related to him by blood or marriage, has worked with him in the 20 yrs prior to his being exposed.

Have a public auction of all the properties owned by these people and distribute the proceeds via transparent means to schools, hospitals, orphanages etc.

Set up free medicare and education up to post-graduate level for all citizens in his constituency for the next 20 years - to be paid by the said politician.

Have such raids in every city. In one year's time the country would be corruption free.


I dissgree and agree with you here. In India our favourite pastime is the blame game. We conveniently pass the blame on others and justify our claims. But that is not how things will be resolved.
The issue is not about providing a mask to the constable or allowing him to take a bribe. If his problem is solved by taking a bribe what about the other people who work on the same roads like street vendors, beggars (this is another issue which requires a new thread) etc.
We have an infrastructure but we do not implement them properly. We have all the rules in the book to bring the pollution in control but all that go in the bin when we hand over a 100 Rs note/notes to the cop. As he will not bother if the emission isnot under control, we are drinking and driving, going on the opp direction of one way etc.
Corruption today is no longer a crime but a part of everyday life. I remember during the times when my family was looking for a bride i stated that i don't want any dowry. but there were a couple of instances when the girl's family suspected that there was some issue with me hence i am not demanding dowry. This made me think if it is wrong not to ask dowry. the same thing happens with corruption too.
A few years back when I was bachelor (Ahhh those days🥳) I was in one my regular weekend booze party. We had a discussion on corruption. that is when I noticed an important thing when we asked a common question to all and myself.
Have I bought tickets in Black - Yes (there were times when the theatre owner used to sell tickets in black).😛
Have I bribed a constable - Yes. Numerous times😆
Have I visited a Tirupati without a special VIP darshanam : very few. while others are in queue I have one from backdoor directly in front of the lord using my connections.🤢
Have I faked my experience for a job: Yes😉😉
Do I watch pirated movies: A helleva lot. If I need to pay for all the movies and show I watch online it might cost half of India's budget😆😆😆
there are a few more like these which appear common in our day-to-day life.
Now the important issue here is not whether i have done this. It is will i continue doing this in the future. It is sadly a Yes. as it is a question o survival at times or convenience at times. AND I dont regret it.
Now the huge questions lurks in front of me saying when you support corruption so much do you have the moral right to question those who are corrupt. Finally by this time I was drunk and slept off.
Now this was my post about how corruption has been imbibed in our blood. I shall post again to discuss how to cure us of this and what steps can be taken.

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