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Posted: 11 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: kiranpreethee

Agree Arshi, the long overdue conversation between Saras and Kumud finaly took place. But what I found funny was Kumuds over reaction when Dugba cut her finger, as if her life depended on getting this sorted out.

I believe Kumud is a sick person and her illness is:
Believing that her family cannot cope without her;
Taking decisions without even consulting anyone (she knows best);
Not communicating to anyone her feelings (She knows best again and will solve all problems herself).
It is high time she left RN, as she has been spoilt too much by her family who has put her on a pedestral and she is now in great need of getting down from that perch.


Hi Arshi :) this place still feels the same.. I have been watching the show on and off.. but not on a regular basis so might need some help here.. What exactly did Kumud mean when she said that her family always suffered whenever she left them?? This whole one week track of Kumud refusing to go to Mumbai with Saras was utter nonsense. She could have talked about the ''fear'' to Saras earlier like she did today. Instead she was being unnecessarily mean and adamant. Now today when she talked about the so called ''fear'' it seemed to me that she resorted to her last hope of emotionally nailing Saras after she got a flak from Guniyal.

P.S- I quoted Kiran because I kinda agree with her... This woman needs to get out of Ratnagiri and focus on her marriage, her husband. Life in Desai household is not gonna stop without her..she needs to freakin utd this..
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Posted: 11 years ago
#22
Anushka and Kabir = Anbir or Kaka 😃 or even Kabir as Ka starts one name and ends the other (😉).
I was dreading the scenes with food poisoning in schools, because:
  1. it is ripped off actual incidents that occurred in 2013. Therefore it is of dread not entertainment value. Many children died, and Indians all over the world were shocked and horrified, like me. Would any of us watch this episode if it happened to a child we knew - heaven forbid.
  2. It might give Kumud another excuse to extend the boring limit of the last week that she is needed in RN. Luckily this has happened so far.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: truptishree

Hey Arshiji

Awesome bytes as usual.
Yes today Saras is star of the episode for showing that unconditional love and undying faith he have for Kumud.
He knows her so well and just for today i forgive Kumud for that sweet and love filled hug.
So finally madam agreed to go Mumbai but again problem came in form of students food poisoning.
Hopefully madam will not change her decision.
You are right that was very bad whoever did this.For any matter nobody should play with lives of kids.
Finally family decided to give some time to Kabir.
Mai came back that was good and finally she talked to Kumud for going.
I think they will drag this for one more week and after that they will start Mumbai track.
Thanks for lovely bytes.



Thanks Trupti, and our Saras dikra again proved to be the best husband. All Kumud had to do, was to just give him that one window, and he understood all her anxieties !

He had so much faith in his Kumud and that she will want to stay with him, that he had booked her ticket too, but seeing her fears, I loved the way he reassured her.

Yeah, the Mumbai track is taking it's own sweet time to come through, maybe the cleverest still haven't decided what they want to do in Mumbai!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#24
Hi Arshi
Saw an on location video with VK (Danny's) interview. It seems like Saras heads to Mumbai and Kumud to Delhi to get the school it's license back or something. Seperation before Mumbai track ? Mumbai track kuch hogan hi ya Nahin ? Wondering...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: lal04

Arshicsji, your great sense of positivity and your persistent effort to present something sensible and entertaining always amaze me. Although there is hardly anything worthy to write about in the recent episodes you come up with a substantial feedback. Of late the viewers have been delivering a tirade against kumud's new found behaviour and ranting on about the unfairness of it all. It really has got on our nerves and we have been using various adjectives to describe her behaviour. The way she reacts to the most endearing character of the show (her hubby) and the way she conducts herself is unjustifiable leading to our utter disapproval. The main problem lies in the shoddy writing of our 'beloved' script writers. Our bechari imaginary character kumud is at their mercy and the shortcomings and flaws in the characterization must be attributed only to them who are now busy concocting a plot for the upcoming Mumbai sequence. From the beginning saras and kumud share the bond of true compatibility. Writers in their attempt to create conflicts between their characters made kumud a victim. It is always the loving and caring side of saras and the headstrong side of kumud are exploited by the writers(the latter one once projected positively, now with shades of grey). Various circumstances have shown us that saras always doesn't figure high on her list of priorities. Before we judge her acts we must consider all her circumstances. Circumstances alter cases. What may be good, wise or to be praised in some circumstances (eg: egoistic kumud was not ready to give in when saras refused her rishta, when kumud defended her dad opposing LN and saras, when saras called off marriage she decided to throw him out of her life,move on,marry Pramad etc - all proved her uprightness not arrogance) may be bad, foolish or to be blamed in other circumstances(eg: when she trusted Pramad instead of saras, when she proposed saras-kusum marriage, when she neither confided in saras or supported him in extreme situations etc). These circumstances are created and manipulated by the writers to such an extent that the characters are artificially twisted to fit them into certain mould and to make the associated events happen which in turn constitute the so-called tracks. The current set of writers are not well versed with the personality traits of characters and they often misrepresent their inherent qualities on the basis of their own fabricated events or tracks. On their whims and fancies they tweak the characters and make them behave in a certain way to suit bizarre situations and unreasonable purposes. Along the way characters lose their consistency and originality and become totally unrelatable. The ongoing scenario is one fine instance out of many. The nakhrewali act of kumud and desais' transformation from modern,progressive mindset to regressive one are the obvious result of cvs use of ineffective time-pass(or dragging) techniques which seem inappropriate and irrelevant. The family is shown to be insensitive and thoughtless of kabir's state of mind, his wishes and priorities (age, of course). Fillers are unavoidable in daily soaps but should be well made, fun or engaging. The following filling-up methods didn't serve the desired purpose. First samud's nok-jhoks were intended for bringing in some lighter moments and romance but turned out differently due to lousy writing and poor portrayal of kumud. Next the whole absurd act of desai parivar indulging in kabir's marriage talks, imposing their opinion on him appears senseless and contrived. As an alternative they can show beautiful, intense emotional confrontation scenes involving LN and kabir or saras and kabir giving kabir the much needed moral support, strength and comfort. Well-written, poignant emotional scenes are sure to strike a chord with the viewers. The same writers who gave us many fun-filled moments during samud marriage celebrations (patang seq, saras beautiful love confession, his sardarji act, mothi seq, engagement, sangeet -all well presented and engaging) are now treating us with tedious and boring fillers. Lastly, today's episode was the best in otherwise boring week. The highlights were samud's heart to heart convo, dugba's presence and final twist involving school and children. Kindly bear with the long post and analytical approach.


Perfectly written lal04, I suppose the frequent change of writers and the fact that there is a chain of free lance writers who do multiple shows simultaneously, and the fact they have to fill in six days every week would all be contributing to this

Plus, I wonder if writers ever look back at their own stories and connect them, or do they think only in tracks?

For instance, this whole kabir ki shadi thing, don't they even realise that they have pegged kabir at 21 years old, so there is no desperate need to get married

If they had to show fillers around kabir, it could have been around getting assimilated in a family like Desais !

The level of writing makes it extremely hard to relate to characters, especially Guniyal , this time she gave a stern talk to Kumud, but most of the time, she appears to the most inane character in the show!

The biggest victim is of course Kumud, who having been given the trait of headstrong, is very often made to look extremely obstinate and arrogant. The writers just haven't been able to maintain Kumud as the strong woman who is also extremely loving, and understands rishton ki maryada very well

Here, the whole won't go to Mumbai was carried to a ridiculous extreme, and made Kumud look extremely bad.

This should have been the first sequence - Kumud's fear about leaving her family, and then Saras and the family, do all this cute things to convince her,

Anyway, I wish the PH would concentrate on getting and retaining a good set of writers who focus on quality work
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Posted: 11 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: kiranpreethee

Agree Arshi, the long overdue conversation between Saras and Kumud finaly took place. But what I found funny was Kumuds over reaction when Dugba cut her finger, as if her life depended on getting this sorted out.

I believe Kumud is a sick person and her illness is:
Believing that her family cannot cope without her;
Taking decisions without even consulting anyone (she knows best);
Not communicating to anyone her feelings (She knows best again and will solve all problems herself).
It is high time she left RN, as she has been spoilt too much by her family who has put her on a pedestral and she is now in great need of getting down from that perch.


I agree, Kumud's parivar prem is being taken to ridiculous lengths

I think, the moment the writers find that we like something, they must repeat it even when it doesn't make sense

When Saras wanted to leave his house after fight with Danny, Kumud refused to go with him, because she wanted to keep the family together, we understood and supported that

So, ceevees have again chipkaoed the same thing, main apna ghar chor ke nahi jaaoingi

Not realizing, that the two are completely different cases. A women stopping her husband from walking out on his family after a dispute and a woman refusing to accompany her husband and demanding that she would stay with her parents and he too must stay in her mayka only, are hugely different scenarios.

Someone didn't think this through and butchered Kumud thoroughly
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Posted: 11 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: vaishali-AR


Hi Arshi :) this place still feels the same.. I have been watching the show on and off.. but not on a regular basis so might need some help here.. What exactly did Kumud mean when she said that her family always suffered whenever she left them?? This whole one week track of Kumud refusing to go to Mumbai with Saras was utter nonsense. She could have talked about the ''fear'' to Saras earlier like she did today. Instead she was being unnecessarily mean and adamant. Now today when she talked about the so called ''fear'' it seemed to me that she resorted to her last hope of emotionally nailing Saras after she got a flak from Guniyal.

P.S- I quoted Kiran because I kinda agree with her... This woman needs to get out of Ratnagiri and focus on her marriage, her husband. Life in Desai household is not gonna stop without her..she needs to freakin utd this..


Vaishali, hi, so thrilled to see you here again!

This place is not really the same, just like the show, the bytes also have the same name and format but sadly more a place to meet and discuss than a place for critical appreciation.

The days when there was so much to explore, discuss and debate, she the story and the characters left us awed,...

Anyway, yes Kumud's I am the greatest syndrome is causing all the problems.

This whole my family will collapse without me- I think she is so used to being the centre of everyone's universe, that she can't imagine that Desais can survive without her.

And then this whole disregard for Saras and complete indifference to their relationship and the rudeness with which she deals with him, is really upsetting.

I kept thinking that if it was the other way around, refusing to talk to your wife, locking her out of the bedroom etc etc, we would have been hauling the man for being an insensitive brute and an abusive husband!


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Posted: 11 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: Aniq96

Anushka and Kabir = Anbir or Kaka 😃 or even Kabir as Ka starts one name and ends the other (😉).

I was dreading the scenes with food poisoning in schools, because:
  1. it is ripped off actual incidents that occurred in 2013. Therefore it is of dread not entertainment value. Many children died, and Indians all over the world were shocked and horrified, like me. Would any of us watch this episode if it happened to a child we knew - heaven forbid.
  2. It might give Kumud another excuse to extend the boring limit of the last week that she is needed in RN. Luckily this has happened so far.


Thankfully this food poisoning doesn't seem to be that severe. So I guess it was added as a hiccup in their Mumbai plans and not with a view to horrify us!

Anushka and kabir, chalo dekhte hain, kaun hai yeh
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Posted: 11 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: appukrish

Hi Arshi

Saw an on location video with VK (Danny's) interview. It seems like Saras heads to Mumbai and Kumud to Delhi to get the school it's license back or something. Seperation before Mumbai track ? Mumbai track kuch hogan hi ya Nahin ? Wondering...


Ok, that's fine, see I was maintain that Kumud doesn't have to go with him, as long as they show it the way they did last night, the two talk it out, and discuss it and agree to stay apart for a few days, and then we could have had so many sweet emotional moments

So now that there's a professional need Kumud has to cater to, it's reasonable

But my point is, till now why was she uselessly fighting?

All these, her fear to be away from family, her own professional commitments, are all such valid reason, the track could have been built around these, instead of her high handedness.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Waise I still don't know which museebats have befallen Desais when Kumud is away !

If it's dukhbas finger cut type of museebat, and Kumud quotes that as a reason, then number wapas!

Nice post, and your this few lines made me DWL
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