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Posted: 11 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: shana0127

@toni tu aur tere unique arguments .šŸ˜Ž

@arshi thank god u r not leaving permanently ...i can understnad its really hard to write unbaised on a damn baised show which SC has now become ...but be here we need ur criticism...bashing does not suit u ...as i find u flexible enough to take other people thought in consideration ...a basher is somebody too stubborn ...so never call urself basher when u criticise...coz u r not 😃


Shana, basher or not, but aaj kal there's not much I can relate to! So comments are more likely to be negative than positive😔

More and more tomato face as Toni calls it!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52

Tum itna Jo taali baja rahe ho

Kya gham hai jisko chupa rahe ho

Aankhon main nami hansee labon par

Kya Hal hai kya dikha rahe ho
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Samsangeetha

U r unhappy abt the current track na. Honestly speaking, it's all about business. So they have to compromise. Gautam is a perfect actor but not paid for 90 days is too much na. So they are trying their best to keep Saraswatichandra alive in this TRP dunia. That's why all these. They are trying as trial and error.


All movies, shows, books are all about business, and it's the makers mandate to maintain the quality and the viewers choice to accept or reject it!

It's not the current track that's making me unhappy, it's the fact that they took a literary masterpiece and dumped it midway.

That is not acceptable.

Crisp bytes became popular because we were discussing the TV adaptation of a saga written by an esteemed author, adapted by a master film maker.

Since neither is happening, CB is redundant !
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Posted: 11 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: hotdogg

Arshi-

Great post Arshi...

Did not see today's epi...but read a WU somewhere...

Had expected you will feel like this today...but did not want to rain on people's expectations.

Why?
Teej IS NOT REMOTELY in the consciousness of a Gujju family!!!

Dear wife had no clue what this is all about and had to ask a couple of her North Indian colleagues at work.

It is entirely a North & East India festival!

No offence to anyone...but those SOB CVs have converted a traditional Gujju family into a pucca North Indian family...this started with the Karva Chauth...then Teej...It seems today you had the Desais going to Kumud's sasural..😭😭😭


How do I contribute to this last post of CB?

I have tried to arrange a note with the closing lines of some great works of literature (some which I have read & some which are in my Bucket List of sorts...though hopefully have a long way to gošŸ˜‰)...and which sometimes were said in a different context in the orginal...but which are apt...

1) ...It was a fine cry - loud and long - but it had no bottom and it had no top, just circles and circles of sorrow. - Toni Morrison, Sula

- This is what most of us felt when it all started to go downhill...all the days of despair, depression, anger, frustation seeing the horror taking birth in front of our very eyes...

2) ...So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past. - F. Scott Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby

- Hoping against hope that this is a temperory phase..the past glory will take shape again once things settle...the significance of the past to the dreams of the future...

3a) ...But I reckon I got to light out for the Territory ahead of the rest, because Aunt Sally she's going to adopt me and sivilize me and I can't stand it. I been there before. - Mark Twain, Huckleberry Finn

And then ...the dream shattered...the hope dissipitating ...

After having experienced the glory of the past, I cannot continue to see or experience this drivel anymore... Aunt Sally represents the TRP Aunty...She's going to adopt me i.e. change the whole show leaving me no choice in the matter...and then try & sivilize (civilize) me i.e. make me see a 'civilized' TRP crap...I can't stand it...

3b) ...you must go on, I can't go on, I'll go on. - Samuel Beckett, The Unnamable

Not continuing with the regularity of thinking / speaking about this bas***dized show is my choice...However, no hard feelings for people who still love this, wish to continue this show...At the very least I am out of here...

4a) ...Come, children, let us shut up the box and the puppets, for our play is played out. - William Thackeray, Vanity Fair

This represents the reason why your decision to wind down SC CB...What else is there?...

4b) ...But that is the beginning of a new story - the story of the gradual renewal of a man, the story of his gradual regeneration, of his passing from one world into another, of his initiation into a new unknown life. That might be the subject of a new story, but our present story is ended. - Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

Its a small world...We friends will meet again... CB will rise again like a Phoenix...but in a different world...for a different show...

5)...Whatever we had missed, we possessed together the precious, the incommunicable past. - Willa Cather, My Antonia

This is the saving grace...the friends we have made...the learning we have learned...the insights we have wondered in awe at...the common shared experience of experiencing the legacy of SLB's near perfect 100 odd episodes...

Inserting Ivy's magnificent post in the last CB. No one could have said this any better:

I suppose I thought I'd be churning out essays for every episode and delivering *standin'-frickin-ovation's* till the number 2000. Par apni kahaani Rab ne ehna hi likheya si. At the peak of SC, CB was a force of nature, a fathomless ocean of ideas, insights and discourse. Even today, those links are threads of pure gold and their perusing value shall never diminish, nor their power to enrich and stimulate. We made our own discussions, as smrth Bhai said. Unstoppable. We 'mavericks'... Our passion got tampered and disilluisioned on one front. But we shall meet again in another. Our investment was not for naught. Never for naught when we walk out with deep attachments, genuine respect and awe... An undeniable sense of regard. Saraswatichandra has been tarnished but CB shines on with unblemished brilliance.

*Standing-frickin-ovation* to all the CBians and to you, our resilient troop leader šŸ‘ šŸ‘ šŸ‘ šŸ‘ and a salute of pure pride and honor.

Arshi, Hgg bhai, smrth bhai, happychappy, Nandy, kaadal, twila, Vaishali, Veera, Santhi, Kat, Shana, Anki, Reemz, Mrieshka, trupishree (this list I know is by no means exhaustive) Just everyone who have made CB what it is today, who consider CB home, haven and 'public sphere'... It's been a sheer pleasure. An unreplicable experience. The magic, can never be recreated. And nor should it. Also, it goes without saying that the CB experience has been, strictly speaking, unforgettable.

6)...Maybe I will go to Paris. Who knows? But I'll sure as hell never go back to Texas again. - James Crumley, The Final Country

After today, will never see SC again...I dont see any hope now...Will still keep in touch through the posts here...

7) ..."Vaya con Dios, my darklin', and remember: vote early and vote often, don't take any wooden nickels, and" - by now I was rolling about helplessly on the spare-room floor, scrunched up around my throbbing pain and bawling like a baby- "always leave 'em laughin' as you say good-bye!" - Robert Coover, The Public Burning

I am the person scrunched up around my throbbing pain... but leave on a high note..

Seems like this post will help make up my average...considering I did not post much the last week or so..šŸ˜‰

Cya Around...Phir Milenge to all friends here on CB...

-Hgg



Brilliant as always Hgg and loved the reference to ardhangini again, she has become a part of CB through you, lending her expertise to CB.

And great last lines, I wished for SC to have that a great beginning, a fabulous end and something good going in between

Alas that was not to be!

Theek hai, koi baat nahi

I am extremely grateful for so much good that has come from SC and the show

A umr bhar ka Khazana mil gaya hai

Kuch dinon ke saath se

Zindagi jeene ka bahana mil gaye

Kuch lamhon ki saugat se!


Milte rehenge šŸ¤—
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Posted: 11 years ago
#55
Arshi ji... I seriously can't believe this is the last CB... it's finally hit me that you're leaving šŸ˜’ 😭
By the looks of today's CB... the show doesn't seem too interesting... yet we stick around because we're emotionally attached (well, in my case.. that's exactly it.) I'm still waiting for a miracle where the show will change its track and actually be realistic for once (and not to mention, get one female character in order at least... they're all whack now by the looks of it 🤢)

I really, really wish that you'd ride out the rest of the the bad times with us just as you rode the waves of good times with us all... After all, a family is only really called a family when it sticks together through especially thick, and thin.

Because this is the last CB for an indefinite amount of time, I will write up a few words based upon ongoing CB reading, and a few spoken updates about the show 😳


I'm still waiting to catch a glimpse of some sort of news that reveals KKumi will somehow turn 180 degrees and be the strong, rational, educated woman that she once was.
Contrary to popular belief on the forum right now, I am very disappointed at the fact that everyone is looking at Pramad as the culprit. Unfortunately, we have a lot of Pramad-types in society... and even worse is that the ones stuck in situations involving unstable people like Pramad most likely end up being the ones who suffer; thus, they are compelled to do one thing or the other to remain dignified as human beings... to demand their rights to equality and freedom of choice.

But that's the thing with Kumud. She has done absolutely nothing to keep her dignity intact. Honestly speaking, where is that "bold" character Jennifer was preaching about to the media in March? She's definitely disappeared... and left a very bad example of what to do when you're in an abusive relationship behind... Now since everyone's talking about social messages here, I want to ask, (and forget momentarily the issue of Pramad... because even though what he does is extremely wrong, hey, it's reality... as much as I hate to say it, this stuff happens everywhere daily... minutely even. To wives, to elderly parents, to kids, even switching the roles in the relationship, making it husbands who suffer in abusive relationships in a lot of cases... this happens everywhere. And it's wrong.)
But, yes, I would like to ask... What is Kumud doing to keep her dignity intact? What is she doing to put herself in a better situation alongside her partner? Is being in denial, being a doormat, and suddenly becoming Dr. Phil really making things better? By remaining passive, all she's doing is putting herself in a bigger mess. She does not initiate any boundaries when it comes to respect. She does not try to ever improve her own situation... Instead all she does is kitchen politics with Kalika whenever she needs to let off steam...

If SP's "Nayi Sochi" slogan was absolute truth, KKumud wouldn't be the coward she is now. I can back this up, again, with personal experience as a child, listening to similar stories around the kitchen table while my Maammi and Nani would be sipping chaa and gossiping about the latest family happenings abroad and in India... A coward, in my definition of television shows, is someone who doesn't stand up to the social taboos of society. They just sit there quietly and allow themselves to be thrown around like a football... which is exactly what Kumud's done. Ever since she was married, never has she caused an uproar for being forced to eat the rabri, nor when she was cut on the forehead, nor when Pramad almost threw her over the side of the bridge on their first night. Even contrary to what her own father told her, which was to stand up for what she believed in, her rights, her values, her morals (so the whole "protect Bapu's honour stuff... it never made sense... And she claimed she was different.)
She remained silent about all these crimes, and the family got used to it... to the point where they're now looking at it with acceptance rather than correcting what is wrong. If she's supposed to be setting an example because she's on TV... WRONG move on her part.
Yes, it's completely out of the norm for them to be showing such gruesome stuff on prime time television... But it's also shameful of them to continually degrade their female protagonist. Socially speaking as the rest of the forum... That doesn't set a good example to women and our future generations of women.
I know it's hard to digest... but even though it's Pramad who's initiating all these crimes, and committing them... it's Kumud who's not putting an end to it... which is making the crimes worse and worse day by day. Wrong message to send to viewers, and definitely not a "nayi soch" way of approaching the touchy subject of domestic violence.

Edit: I know this is a super biased opinion considering how forceful my rant above was... but I have to say, to truly be a feminist, you must look at how to positively change a woman's situation. THAT is absolute feminism. It's true, men have always had the upper hand since... as long as we know. And if you read Anton Chekhov's "Short Stories About Women" you will see proof of this, and also, stories that prove the exact opposite. It depends from situation to situation. In Kumud's particular situation, she hasn't been blessed with having a lot of control like she had with the gentle, loving Saras of her past... which is why I firmly believe that being a feminist, and maybe even a true Kumud-wellwisher in this situation would be to not blame Pramad all the time, but rather, understand that it's up to Kumud and only Kumud to change her situation... and if she doesn't.. then in my opinion, she deserves all the gaaliyan for being so blind to reality.
Edited by veera25 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: Adiani

Arshiji,

Chalo, time for Thank you's and Good bye's.

There was a promise of a different show, A Non Saas Bahu one,
Promise of telling a story which shaped an entire generation of a region,
Got lured..
Nevertheless, will forever be grateful for all brilliant episodes we were shown.
The medium may have been lost, but creators will find another canvas, they still have brush in their hands,

Cheers to
For troop leader Arshi, for showing essence everyday
For all CB writers, for showing positivity when needed most
For simple beauty of the thoughts expressed
For retaining pure, innocence
For brilliant writing
For outlining logically, when brain storming was needed.
For intellectual stimulation provided,
For nudging to improvise our Hindi
For sheer entertainment value of some contributions
For loyalty of fans
For friends, shayaris and ghupshups

Not planning to watch MahaBharat, but will read CB, addicted now.


Beautifully written again Adiani,

Ya we are all magic together aren't we!

Pagal , crazy with all the miracaculous colors and emotions that only Pagal and crazy people can indulge in, we lived it all completely.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@arshi ,

just bcz my fav something hopeless i dont leave it..i always finish what i started u did what barun did and u know what i feel about him ..i tried everything i could to change ur mind but now i m done .. 😔

jaoo kahi bhi jaoo ..remember ur leaving us and u dont think this show is worth of watching .. trust me i will be watching u and will see how many people love u there and how many loved u here ...

u always said cb is nothing the people is blah blah now what !!!...and remember ur leaving those people and that show ..
karoo jo marzeee 😔

3rd class and ghatiya hai jo bhi hai meri show hai ..gaali dyungi bashing karyungi but last din tak ah hi rahyungi ..tumhe kya .. naya show dekhi chal diye ...

dektee hoon tumhare maha bharat kitna urrta hai
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Karoge yaad to har baat yaad aayegi,
Guzarte waqt ki har mauj thahar jayegi.
Gali ke mod pe,suna sa koi darwaaza,
Tarasati aankhon se raasta kisi ka dekhega,
Nigaah dur talaq jaa ke laut aegi.
-Bazaar
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Everyone has already said great things about CB and Arshiji and all the excellent writers here. I am a newcomer- only.-I can say that I am going to miss this thread tremendously. I used to look forward to all the comments from all of you. I hope all of you will still continue to write in some form at least.
Really sad today.
My hats off to all you wonderful writers.
Will still wait in depth long analysis from ivy ji hopefully even though understand that it is difficult due to so much degradation of SC now.

Plan to continue watching only indian soap I started till end hopefully.

Wish all your predictions come true Shanaji.

Will miss you and your thread a lot Arshiji.
Edited by Mrieshka - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Arshi ji,
Please continue with at least weekly 'Signatures', if you are continuing the watch. The thread provides such a balancing report on progression. Besides, talented artists who held us with their prowess are still there- if not 'story proper'.
I remember starting to post tentatively on CB..."my posts' shows around 6 May- after that mild rap on the knuckle in Humeshaa's thread. 😳 The one, where you mentioned every other posts were perfect except this 'one'!šŸ˜† Your cool, objective responses afforded me a marvellously gainful 'journey' lasting four months. I thank you sincerely for those all...Your patience, diligence in answering all and above all, the Brilliance šŸ‘...so please continue at least once a week...or whenever it 'affects'.
TC.
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