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pasumarthisa

@pasumarthisa

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#51

Regarding the letter issue.

Many didn't like saras being projected as a hero. But I didn't think it was heroic and there was no such projection. He was careless but covered it well is all I could see. There is a lot of consistency in his efforts to push the cause of Kumud's welfare. He had a similar talk with Mrs BD. Today he tried with Alak. And BD joined.

Kumud's letter is straight out of the original. Here it was made a kavita that could be interpreted as about pramaad.

Everyone is making decisions for kumud. Except saras. Agree that he is living dangerously and putting kumud in a spot. But his sincerity in trying to make BD family more sensitive to kumud's state has been shown for a while right from pallu epi. It's not sudden

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HydroxyGroup

@HydroxyGroup

Rocker

+ 4

Posted: 12 years ago

#52

Originally posted by: shana0127
@anki i love ur cute jenny pics ...she looked so cute and typical Indian teenager in her teens

thnk u shana😳 few months ago star network's YT channel star classic has uploaded all epis of their popular series in HD... so this all pics frm sanju's magic pencil wala Shaka Laka Boom Boom...the chotu jen playd hobby teacher pia's character...nd the dressing style is jus lyk hw it used to b 10 yrs ago...though it is more of lyk jia of sharaarat...

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-Ivy-

@-Ivy-

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#53

Originally posted by: arshicritic

Makes sense Ivy, SLB keeps his stamp on the serial, but washes his hands off all creative thought.

And sphere options - maybe it was a package deal.

But why is any attempt to push the envelop blocked? SP, with its huge viewership base is in the best position to have at least one niche show, with steady TRP, free to experiment.

Must every show fit into the formula and be money and number making?

@Bold, not SLB Arshi, SP will. SLB is very particular about such. He will only lend his name to his particular 'vision". But SP sees the huge advantage in calling show "SLB's SC"... Maybe I'm wrong but and there is a strong likelihood, that Sphere will only be puppets dancing to the tunes of the puppet-masters (SP). Let's see =)

Bold2: Million dollar question, Arshi. It's all a numbers game at the end. A constant strive to get to the top and then a constant battle to stay at the top. Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown and all that. SP is too commercial-minded, too fearful and too fickle. Their "Nayi Soch" is simply a marketing gimmick. Their core TRP giving audience is too set in their television-habit ways, and SP is content to merely fulfill supply demands. For them, the grass is always greener on the other side. Their allegiance and loyalty is not to any show or viewers choice per se, but to what takes the general fancy and brings them more TRP's. They are all about the immediate. Thus, all their shows are "disposable" and prone to face the axe at any frickin' time, in favor of a better 'option'... And that option too will invariably suffer same fate in favor of another 'better'. It is but a vicious circle and SP is churning its wheels in the same place

Edited by IdiotViewer - 12 years ago

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Arshics

@Arshics

Inactive

+ 6

Posted: 12 years ago

#54

@Santhi, ivy

Though your posts are very different about different points altogether, but my reply is the same, just bear with me for a while and hopefully you will see why

Santhi the letter from Saras becoming his heroism - is an apprehension I have that it is a part of the plan to pander to TRPs, the point of Ivys post.

These are the things that have been going on -

Dukhbas proclamation of Kumud sasural nahi jayegi

BDs remorse over Kumud Pramaad marriage

BD turning to Saras for Kumud's protection

Alak taking a pro Kumud stand after Saras highlights Kumud's plight

Umess reappearing

All these maybe to make Saras the shining hero, and Kumud the hapless victim

Any widow remarriage in TV is still shown as not the woman wanting marriage for herself, or falling in love again, it has always been out of a sense of duty, for the sake of parivar, and with the blessings of the sasural

So according to 'nayi soch' it's ok to remarry, but only if elders deem it so! To move on and to want to enter into a new relationship for own self is still not accepted

Here too I fear, ground is being laid for the same. So Saras Kumud union will happen because elders ESP her sasural walas will deem it right, and be the magnanimous heros with nayi soch

Not because Kumud and Saras, are ready to forgive and forget and give their love another chance

Just like last time, Kumud will bow down to family wishes, we shall all be happy

And none will question that under these conditions, Saras Kumud marriage is as wrong as pramaad Kumud marriage.

After a disastrous abusive marriage which ends in tragedy, that she would need time and closure, time to rebuild, time to dil se forgive Saras, rebuild that which was broken and only then think of marriage again , will be conveniently pushed aside

That's what's bothering me with the letter business, that it is a laying of future track with SP soch, and not SLB dream.

And hence the common reply to both of you.

I hope I made sense

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smrth

@smrth

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#55

Originally posted by: arshicritic

So agree with you smrth, dug dug ba, priceless

I remember you being bothered her being referred to as Dugba, instead of dukhba! Now we can treat that as a flash of brilliance and not an error!

It had TRP pleasing written all over it! And such a contrast to PMS night, it was Guniyal's unquestioning faith that Kumud couldn't face, not dukhbas loud proclamations of Meri Kumud.

And it was Gun's pragmatic handling of the issue that gave Kumud the desired peace, dukhba was kept out of that scene completely, and how powerful that was!

All this dhol bajana, very TRP!

We may see a power play Dukhbaa today Arshi. More 'concerned' and more 'upfront'. She would 'match' Pramaad and give him run for his every cents and 'shouts'. This I am sure. A Sumo Champion of 'cause' Kumud. Nothing wrong. Good and 'empowered'. But where would it all fit in the actual plot where story is poised otherwise? For many good claps she may elicit, may one see hollowness/artifice? Needles usurpation? Why are real parents so subsumed? Why could we not see a more natural progression? Especially, when we know that Guniyal- Kumud has a good finesse available.

Is this to accommodate more weighty artists only? Here let me clarify. I have respect for Ragini. I had liked her performance in two three Gujarati plays. Once at a very close range- at Prithvi or NCPA- don't remember exactly where. She has a powerful presence and good act. Only thing, she is carrying stage habit of somewhat theatric loudness here too. And that is somehow not gelling too well for me. My protest is artificiality. Content, I too will applaud, as today I may. 😆

Edited by smrth - 12 years ago

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Arshics

@Arshics

Inactive

+ 6

Posted: 12 years ago

#56

Originally posted by: smrth

We may see a power play Dukhbaa today Arshi. More 'concerned' and more 'upfront'. She would 'match' Pramaad and give him run for his every cents and 'shouts'. This I am sure. A Sumo Champion of 'cause' Kumud. Nothing wrong. Good and 'empowered'. But where would it all fit in the actual plot where story is poised otherwise? For many good claps she may elicit, may one see hollowness/artifice? Needles usurpation? Why are real parents so subsumed? Why could we not see a more natural progression? Especially, when we know that Guniyal- Kumud has a good finesse available.
Is this to accommodate more weighty artists only? Here let me clarify. I have respect for Ragini. I had liked her performance in two three Gujarati plays. Once at a very close range- at Prithvi or NCPA- don't remember exactly where. She has a powerful presence and good act. Only thing, she is carrying stage habit of somewhat theatric loudness here too. And that is somehow not gelling too well for me. My protest is artificiality. Content, I too will applaud, as today I may. 😆

Even if its not Raginiji demanding more screen space, it certainly seems to be playing to the gallery. Dukhba is the more powerful character - power as in ability for theatrics!

Reminds me of Tulsi Virani after the generation leap. Whereas, the gentle kind yet pragmatic Guniyal will not get that kind of front bench support . So again as TRP soch !

A dukhba who can now rant about her miserable past and fix Kumud's future is far more dramatic than a Guniyal, who can peep into her daughters heart and gently nudge her towards taking a step in the direction of fixing her life - not very meter shaking!

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smrth

@smrth

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#57

^^^

Actually yes Arshi. Dukhba fits the bill. Guniyal is too refined for likes of Gumaan and Pramaad. Let her deal with them. It's a fun to watch... But when it comes to Kumud and her 'Antarman'. Please let it be Guniyal, Cvs.

Edited by smrth - 12 years ago

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-Ivy-

@-Ivy-

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#58

smrth, Arshi... A digression plus concern... Would Sunny too be 'sacrificed' in favour of Danny (rumored to be making a return soon) in this determination, for "mass over class"? Sunny is not exactly "galley material" either?

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smrth

@smrth

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#59

Ivy,

'Chandrakant' is so under utilised. You know in book of Beta SC, chandrakant was real alpha! Taking all headlong. SC, VC, LN, Gumaan and Kusum...only one he always deferred to- Kumud!

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Arshics

@Arshics

Inactive

+ 6

Posted: 12 years ago

#60

Originally posted by: smrth
Ivy,
'Chandrakant' is so under utilised. You know in book of Beta SC, chandrakant was real alpha! Taking all headlong. SC, VC, LN, Gumaan and Kusum...only one he always deferred to- Kumud!

We are heading for a triple marriage maybe - Saras Kumud, sunny kusum and Danny Kumari !

And there I hope sc will end.

Other wise as hgg said we will have all the teri saree Meri saree se sunder kaise !

Though I must admit, Guman's sarees are worth fighting for 😃