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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: DramayBaaz

Lol most of this true but I feel like most Hindi soaps have bloopers like these. As far as VC's outburst goes, well that would be a bit too melodramatic in any time period really, it was mostly just used an excuse to have a fight scene. As for the Gau Hatya track, I totally agree that it didn't make sense in modern times, but some people on the forum said it still happens in rural villages, soo.. 😕 Honestly I don't really care if there are some weird points in the story, as long as we get Samud scenes. 😆


True, DramayBaaz, as long as Samud romance is on track, every other point is acceptable, but it would make us appreciate the show even more, if there was consistency in the show.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Arshi, that was quite a comprehensive list of al the boo-boos that plague the show... 😉

I feel this is a common feature of SLB's work... If you've watched Saawariya, it was set in some imaginary blue world, that looked like Mughal-e-Aazam in Venice? maybe... And Sonam Kapoor usually had a lantern at hand, as well...

I dont think it bothers him one bit because he's seeing something in his head that he's trying to picturise for our benefit. And in SC he's going the same way making up an imaginary world with mix and match of reality from different periods and places. I hope enough viewers can connect with his vision to keep the boat afloat...

If you watch Western period dramas ( I am a fan of Downton Abbey and to a much lesser extent, Mad Men) they pay a lot of attention to detail. I dont think we should expect that level of attention from SLB because he is more emotional than rational in his work, as far as I have seen.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: Flora3333

I think they're trying to make it a fusion of old and modern!😆

But walking with lantern makes sense sometimes when Kumud at night because when everyone's sleeping, lights are off. But one thing, I saw Dugba turning off her lantern before sleeping... doesn't she have electricity in her room? Or maybe it was a scene during power-cut! 😕


That's exactly my point Flora3333, an observant viewer will often notice these things, and CVs should too. There has to be consistency and continuity in logistics also, not just emotional scenes
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Posted: 12 years ago
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what a dimmaag ki waat

i never try to find logic in Indian telly soaps where al r adorned in heavy jwellary day and night and sleep in party dress and wake up all tip top... lol

its a fiction show so all is factious...

so now mera sau take ka sawwal ...Gautam and Jenny are real na !!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: Muskaan92

Brilliant post...👏👏👏


SLB himself is confused about what should be shown..
He has not accepted one view. On one side, he has shown its Kumud who brought internet to the village and there is no electricity at night...😆


This is actually the reality of many villages, they have Internet, but no electricity. But all our CVs need to do is to close it with a relevant dialogue, and not leave us to wonder about it!

They actually have excellent net speed in ratnanagri, because Saras could have a concall with the doctor, when VC fell ill.

Sanskaars and maryada matters are given utmost importance but still, the daughter of the house sneaks into the room of the boy at midnight...👎🏼


Again, sneaking into Saras's room at night - per se not a problem, she in her eagerness, did not think of it, but yes, her clothes, would be objectionable, in a house so focused on maryada

DB is shown dual-minded.
She has a problem if Kumari keeps her hair open but she has no problem if Kumud wears backless blouse and transparent chunni

That is a very very jarring point for me

Dear SLBji...Please show something that is complete...


Agree, pl show something that is complete...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: vaishali-AR


In India, we see power failures in big cities too..cities like Kanpur and even Delhi experience heavy loadshedding for hours and sometimes days specially in summers.. Infact there is a time slot for power failure for every sector of a colony..and all these places have internet.. so why is it so unbelievable in this case? not sure..

What has Kumud done so far thats off limit or not within limits of maan maryada.. ?? Is falling in love and having the courage to ask the guy who gave her every possible indication that he has feelings for her, going against maan maryada? I don't understand what is this maan maryada you are talking about..?

Dukhba is one of the strongest characters is the show.. I agree on the part that she should give more attention to her daughter than she does.. Kumud can carry herself in the kind of attire she wears.. Jennifer has the height and figure to carry them off..Not only Kumari is too young for such clothes..I think she is a lil too skinny for those kinda dresses.. When she grows up and if she wears something like that, which is a common attire in Gujrat villages, Dukhba might not have a problem..who knows!?Leaving that aside, in the show they wanted to convey that Kumud is Dukhba's '' laadli'' so she gets away with a lot of things compared to the other children of the house..not just Kumari..but Kusum and Yash also are not as close to Dukhba as Kumud is.. right or wrong? I dunno..I know such things happen..


Vaishali, maan maryada often refers to external social norms that are imposed on all members of a society, and dress code is one of the norms!

Common attire in villages - villages have very strict norms on skin show, and it's considered against maryada to expose, so there I will disagree with you!

Villages which have a rigid set of norms - the honor killing belts etc, will have rules that are restrictive in all domains, from talking to opposite sex, to dress codes, to speaking up and speaking out by women!

Internet but no electricity - agree with you there, in many rural centers, they are equipped with technology but never have electricity to use it!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: mandygill

above stated questions have been bothering me too! after watching the show so far, i am getting the taste of eating saag with bread instead of makki ki roti!

the cvz are trying to blend the novel with modern era, that is why they showed dubai where saras was shown living in a posh house but still holds traditional beliefs.

then they showed ratnagiri where they tried to create rural atmosphere by showing gau hatya track, although its hard to believe but in some parts of rural india there r people that still hold on to the century old traditions and beliefs!

then in the village they showed computers and cell phones which means that the rural areas of india r still in the stage of development..which is again indicating towards today's time and age.

i think that the cvz are trying to make modern adaptation of the novel, the scenes where they show lanterns when the electricity goes just makes the scenes more classy and beautiful which might be slb's idea because he likes showing this type of settings even in his movies..a poetic romance!

on the whole its not a bad attempt but has lots of room for improvement..as far as acting is concerned i don't see any flaws..the flaw is in neglecting details...logic ki vaat ka blame goes to the bad script..i think slb should personally look into it and attention needs to be given to better writing and hopefully interesting sensible tracks!


Loved your saag with bread comment, which is very apt for the show.

It is a great show, with many magical moments, and a romantic setting with the small pool ( don't see much of it any more ?) and lanterns.

So that is beyond doubt, however a little attention to detail and consistency will take to even higher levels of excellence.

So acting - great

Direction - quite good

Production - high quality

Dialogues and writing - very good at times, good almost always


A little more logistic consistency and attention to detail is all that's missing, and then it would be flawless!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: lakhy


@ Muskaan...

Pls keep Ramayana and Mahabharata out of this...

@ bold --...👎🏼




Agree with Lakhy, Ramayana and Mahabharata are not relevant examples, as they invoke a reverence, which cannot be tampered with

A novel on the other hand can be modified, and placed in a different setting.

The essence of the story has been retained by SLB, however the time period has been changed, and in this the CVs seem to be confused.

Sometimes they show a very traditional village, and at other times they show a modern village

That is the topic of discussion here.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: arshicritic


Vaishali, maan maryada often refers to external social norms that are imposed on all members of a society, and dress code is one of the norms!

Common attire in villages - villages have very strict norms on skin show, and it's considered against maryada to expose, so there I will disagree with you!

Villages which have a rigid set of norms - the honor killing belts etc, will have rules that are restrictive in all domains, from talking to opposite sex, to dress codes, to speaking up and speaking out by women!

Internet but no electricity - agree with you there, in many rural centers, they are equipped with technology but never have electricity to use it!


Arshi, when I said maan maryada I referred to the ''sneaking up in the night part'' not her dress.. I don't know too much about village dress codes but I know that backless cholis are not very uncommon in Gujrat rural areas.. the garba dresses the young girls wear in navratras are inspired by the local village chaniya choli looks only..And skin show happens in all traditional Indian dresses, whether its a saree or ghagra cholis..the midriff and backs are exposed ..the transparent duppattas are only to make the attire look dressy.. and she looks pretty..Saras has a great style statement and Kumud matches upto him..Talking to opposite sex speaking out by women may have been looked down upon 50 years ago.. its honestly not that big a deal now..it might not be very open like in cities..but its not shocking or a social taboo as it used to be.. What I would consider against maan maryada is what Kumari is doing..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: happychappy

Arshi, that was quite a comprehensive list of al the boo-boos that plague the show... 😉


I feel this is a common feature of SLB's work... If you've watched Saawariya, it was set in some imaginary blue world, that looked like Mughal-e-Aazam in Venice? maybe... And Sonam Kapoor usually had a lantern at hand, as well...

I dont think it bothers him one bit because he's seeing something in his head that he's trying to picturise for our benefit. And in SC he's going the same way making up an imaginary world with mix and match of reality from different periods and places. I hope enough viewers can connect with his vision to keep the boat afloat...

If you watch Western period dramas ( I am a fan of Downton Abbey and to a much lesser extent, Mad Men) they pay a lot of attention to detail. I dont think we should expect that level of attention from SLB because he is more emotional than rational in his work, as far as I have seen.


It's nice to create a fantasy world, but even within that there must be consistencies, and detailing.

That's all, SLB is a romantic, and not a rationalist, and that creates magic, but these little things are jarring and can easily be smoothed out with just a bit more attention

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