Crisp Bytes SC - 17th May 13 - Page 5

Originally posted by: shana0127

nice episode ...ln vc fight was more of a foreshadowing of future coming up daraar and difference between two

i loved the way saras kumud said sorry

i like that saras laugh ...dont know why it just makes me sigh !...it has got so much of peace love and admiration in it when he smiles at kumud...i saw that laughter turned smile second time...fist it was when kumud accepted her love for him...second now when they just made peace...

...his smile so successfully conveys the essence of his feelings to kumud...the way it reaches his eyes ...seems to say ...kumud u make me so much at peace ,i love u

Well said. he smiles from the heart and his smile reaches his eyes. His joy at her happiness, his love and admiration for her, the purity of his love, a sense of peace when she is around is reflected in his smile. Added to that today was relief they had reconciled.

Samud smiling made for a lovely closing shot.

Originally posted by: smrth

Nandy,

I hope they do and use some feed backs from here...was that mirrored 'ear catching' sorry not mentioned here? Though it's obvious on its own too...ok, hoping it so, let me fetch a trp thread note to make it sound more frequent...

"TRP climbed two decimal points. One for Samud and another for keeping Kusum invisible through the week (character, no disrespect to the actor). Wanna have full integer point jump cvs? Start Sunny- Kusum track pronto.

Bet? with mere hint on removal of a looming threat, you'd do great service to your show..."

@ Arshi, the previous show had an almost cult following. We saw the downside of fan power in action there, a rare and extreme case. The PH trying to accommodate the demands of the fans and then the interference from the channel negatively impacted the outcome of the story to a large extent. But did the PH really have a script after a certain point? I find that particular PH starts off their shows well then loose their way a few months later. We hope that will not happen here.

The story of Saraswatichandra is known to people. The latter part of the love story to some extent is the reason that many folks stay away from the show. The tagline itself is depressing, 'mukkamal mohabbat ki adhoori dastaan'! Either they follow the novel to the 'T' regardless of the TRPs. If they are modifying the story from the beginning, making changes along the way in hopes of increasing TRPs, they need to think about the end, now.

@ Samarth - the channels and most PH's do visit India forum and other similar forums for feedback. CVs have made rapid changes in the script already for TRPs. I am sure they have read enough comments not just on IF but numerous other places too about the adhoori dastaan.

Samarth, you are my only support on this thread in this matter I believe😃. I had decided not to bring up this topic again, besides the need for a modified end, business of TRPs etc have been discussed in detail in another thread so don't want to get into it again here. I totally support Samarth's views on the changes discussed elsewhere and the ending. It might be too early to discuss the end or maybe not if they plan to stick to the adhoori dastaan.

@ Kaadal, where art thou? The thread feels adhoora without you.😃

@ Hotdogg - This may have been discussed earlier and I missed it so apologies for bringing this up again. IPL begins at 8 and SC is over by then. Are the SC's TRPs affected by IPL?Hotdogg is the most knowledgeable person about TRPs on this forum so I asked him but all are welcome to share their POV.

Originally posted by: Infofan

@ Arshi, the previous show had an almost cult following. We saw the downside of fan power in action there, a rare and extreme case. The PH trying to accommodate the demands of the fans and then the interference from the channel negatively impacted the outcome of the story to a large extent. But did the PH really have a script after a certain point? I find that particular PH starts off their shows well then loose their way a few months later. We hope that will not happen here.

The story of Saraswatichandra is known to people. The latter part of the love story to some extent is the reason that many folks stay away from the show. The tagline itself is depressing, 'mukkamal mohabbat ki adhoori dastaan'! Either they follow the novel to the 'T' regardless of the TRPs. If they are modifying the story from the beginning, making changes along the way in hopes of increasing TRPs, they need to think about the end, now.

@ Samarth - the channels and most PH's do visit India forum and other similar forums for feedback. CVs have made rapid changes in the script already for TRPs. I am sure they have read enough comments not just on IF but numerous other places too about the adhoori dastaan.

Samarth, you are my only support on this thread in this matter I believe😃. I had decided not to bring up this topic again, besides the need for a modified end, business of TRPs etc have been discussed in detail in another thread so don't want to get into it again here. I totally support Samarth's views on the changes discussed elsewhere and the ending. It might be too early to discuss the end or maybe not if they plan to stick to the adhoori dastaan.

Originally posted by: Infofan

@ Kaadal, where art thou? The thread feels adhoora without you.😃

😊Copy that

@ Hotdogg - This may have been discussed earlier and I missed it so apologies for bringing this up again. IPL begins at 8 and SC is over by then. Are the SC's TRPs affected by IPL?Hotdogg is the most knowledgeable person about TRPs on this forum so I asked him but all are welcome to share their POV.

Nandy, it would impact TRPs of SC as much as those of any other show, because, IPL is on till late night

And thus it is about relative TRP and not absolute TRP, isn't it?

I think it's to do with the genre, the TRP metered homes may not be into watching subtle romances.

Originally posted by: arshicritic

@hotdogg,

Is TRP like a pie? Then if IPL takes a lions share, shouldn't all dramas show a TRP dip?

Would you like to throw some Light on this?

@infofan @arshi

trps measure viewership numbers based on timeslots.
some ipl matches start at 8 pm, some at 4 pm. so yes, ipl does lower the trp of tv shows.

consequently most tv shows take a dip in trp ratings and actually have.

under such circumstances, a better way to analyze trp rankings is within specific timeslots and rank them ...
coz you cannot compare trp ranking of a show which airs at 9 pm to a show which airs at 7.30 pm..

..current primetime is considered 8.00 - 11.00 pm...i read somewhere that channels are trying hard to extend primetime to begin from 7.00 pm and 'investing' in quality shows for this slot which used to have repeats here earlier...SP was mentioned as one such channel pushing the envelope with SC..

...on a overall basis and considering relative ranking (trps of all shows have dipped due to ipl) SC even with trp of 1.7 was steady at #15 (all shows with their slot specific trps) for weeks 13,14,15
...it had been #14 for most of its screening time (even when it had a trp of 2.0-2.6)
...the only time it hit #8 when it got a trp of 2.9 in week #11 (DABH was then at #1 with a trp of 5.3!)

I guess the panic button was hit when at a trp of 1.4 for the 7.30 pm slot, SC moved out from top 3 for that slot ...which is really bad since the viewership here is anyway lower than primetime...
...and became #21 overall...coz now it was on par with Sanskar & Chidiya Ghar1

since we are also discussing possible way forwward in the new track, logical inconsistencies etc...thought of sharing a great article I recently came across on soaps and the dynamics ...

Money quote:
"soap operas are like a young Indian bride: they sometimes test the limits, but end up back on the straight and narrow without causing any waves." 😛

http://www.inaglobal.fr/en/television/article/soap-operas-dominate-prime-time-television-india

@ hotdogg

Originally posted by: arshicritic

@ hotdogg

Thanks for the insight , I agree that TRP comparison within the same time slot makes sense. I should try to see the leading shows in this slot and compare with SC.

Loved the article, and the analogy with a new bride, when the TRP saasu ma cracks the whip, the creativity bahu must fall in line.

SC too seems to be heading the same way, falling prey to the TRP game!

Reading the article was horrifying, the way it actually described the formula for soaps, and I realized how we have come to accept all this as the way it must be

Yesterday I made a post called Questions for the weekend, on the inconsistencies in the show, and a few reactions were that we must not look for logic in a Hindi show!

Then we are to be blamed for the drivel we get, because we neither expect nor demand anything better.

Since the shows are made for rural women, that is where the TRPs come from then, so there must not be any pressure on the makers to go the extra mile for the Minority who want that little thoroughness. Pity!

@ arshi

if you want more horror, check out the article by Allesandra Stanley Chief TV Critic of NYT, from which the money quote was referenced:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/arts/television/indian-soap-operas-ruled-by-mothers-in-law.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

I am therefore just taking it one day at a time...and kinda hoping SLB's ego wont take us entirely in that direction...

..heres one more ray of hope I am clinging on to...at 7.30 PM slot the trps will never compete / match those of primetime shows which are full on trp aligned...so as long as it remains in top 3 slot with minor adjustments for trp...we are in business..

Originally posted by: hotdogg

@ arshi

if you want more horror, check out the article by Allesandra Stanley Chief TV Critic of NYT, from which the money quote was referenced:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/arts/television/indian-soap-operas-ruled-by-mothers-in-law.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

I am therefore just taking it one day at a time...and kinda hoping SLB's ego wont take us entirely in that direction...

..heres one more ray of hope I am clinging on to...at 7.30 PM slot the trps will never compete / match those of primetime shows which are full on trp aligned...so as long as it remains in top 3 slot with minor adjustments for trp...we are in business..

Originally posted by: Infofan

@ Samarth - the channels and most PH's do visit India forum and other similar forums for feedback. CVs have made rapid changes in the script already for TRPs. I am sure they have read enough comments not just on IF but numerous other places too about the adhoori dastaan.

Samarth, you are my only support on this thread in this matter I believe😃. I had decided not to bring up this topic again, besides the need for a modified end, business of TRPs etc have been discussed in detail in another thread so don't want to get into it again here. I totally support Samarth's views on the changes discussed elsewhere and the ending. It might be too early to discuss the end or maybe not if they plan to stick to the adhoori dastaan.