TRP - a friend and a foe - Page 8

Originally posted by: arshicritic

I am completely against not following the basic story of the novel because it would lose the right to be called an adaptation then. If she has to be married off to another person, it should be done that way because that's how it is in the story. Poetic liberties are one thing but changing the narrative which is possibly its major high point, strips the story off the essence.

@doublep

This is exactly what I feel, for me one of the reasons for watching a re-make of a classic is to undergo the same journey, with the same characters, just in a different medium.

Imagine watching Gone With the Wind as a TV show, we know how it is going to end, but that's how it has to be, or Romeo and Juliet - they cannot live happily ever after, because that's not how Shakespeare intended them to be

So, speaking of myself, if I invest in a story, that I already know went a certain way, then the re-make must also go that way.

That's why I love every little nugget Samarth shares about the original, because at every step, to compare with the original, is what adds to the excitement and appreciation of watching a remake

Knowing the course of Saras and Kumud's story doesn't take away from its enjoyment, infact it makes these romantic moments even more precious

After all, the beauty and appeal of Devdas and Paro's story would be ruined if they were to live happily ever after.

I for one would be very disappointed if Saras and Kumud story doesn't match the original, I am not here for a love story, I am here for the love story!

Originally posted by: kaadal

@smrth, thanks for this info about the original novel. All I knew was they get separated because of the step mom and she gets tricked to marry someone else, but SC spends his life being dedicated to her and her family. But after reading what you have written, I hope SLB doesn't go down the same lane. Now I understand more clearly the categories who stay away from this show.

1) the people who didn't even want to try seeing it, who might have read the book

2) the purists who read the book and can't accept the new changes in the character

3) those who know the story and think SLB always stuck to the storyline.

Now the only left are the people who are ready to see anything happen on the show or people unaware of the book or the story just enjoying a good show by SLB. No wonder the count is less. After reading this info I think I would enjoy SLB's version rather than him sticking to the novel. I wish he hadn't advertised the show as a remake of the book, but a remake can be made differently with the base being the novel. Yeah as for how much liberty we can take remaking an original, I am not sure. But as far as the story is concerned it was an ancient novel based on the social norms of that period. A story can't be made in this century with the same so how can it adhere to the original. I am sure SLB would have thought about it before starting off this project, so we will see how it goes.

Originally posted by: kaadal

@smrth, thanks for this info about the original novel. All I knew was they get separated because of the step mom and she gets tricked to marry someone else, but SC spends his life being dedicated to her and her family. But after reading what you have written, I hope SLB doesn't go down the same lane.

Originally posted by: smrth

@ bold,

Now this is something that is completely non existent in the book. Much as many of 'GR' adulators would like to see it coming so, SC has never helped Kumud in any which way in the book at least (ask the 'purists!). If anything, unwittingly, he has always been a bane in her life. There was no respite through out, at least in the book.

So in the forum when often I hear, "he shall help her redeem later" I always wonder, 'what? How?' Is helping her family a personal 'redemption'? (and even that was not there in the book, but assuming it happening here according to spoilers). I cringe at such 'skin pay backs'. Great, get one slaughtered and rush to help the 'survivors' as penance!! 🤢 Worse, let her get slaughtered again in the end in finding her miraculously surviving the first attempt!!🤢🤢

And this raises another critical issue, that of viewers ( including me) who have no or little knowledge of the original piece, have certain perceptions based on hearsay, and hence are basing their judgement on incomplete or incorrect knowledge.

All of us have such a sketchy knowledge of the original piece, i just have always thought of it as being about the angst of unfulfilled love and supreme sacrifice

That's why Samarth, part of the hullabaloo stems from ignorance and false notions.

So watching SC is going to be quite an experience, It is not a simple and straightforward romantic love story of two noble good people who sacrifice all for each other, as I had originally thought.

The original was written to appease the reader of that era and confirmed to the social order then

and so this version must appeal to the viewer of this era and must confirm to today's social system!!

@Arshi, I loved your classification of TV viewers, way back on page 6!! 😆. Absolutely priceless.

The way TRP's are calculated itself leaves a big question mark to me!!! half the viewers switch channels during ad time and watch another serial on another channel or get up to do their work ... serve, clean, blah blah blah... so really the TRP game is a stupid game followed by people who are afraid to change or question status quo!!

@smrth
many thanks for your broad inputs on the story...

when I started asking a couple of my friends (category #1) about SC the novel, coz I loved the show...they were not enthused... they continue to not see it despite my hardsell...and still think I am crazy to like it so much...the feedback from them still is that man are you going to be depressed as it progresses...on my insistence they painted a very broad story for me and voluntarily detailed the end to discourage me ... 😉

the end ...I absolutely hate and so my preference for an alternate end... i did not want to know lot of detail because it spoils the experience of seeing the show...you are always in fear if you know what happened in the novel ...

One question I have is that if the novel is about Kumud's travails, why was it named Saraswatichandra? Was it because he is the trigger which causes upheaval in everyone's life or was there any other reason?


@arshi @smrth @happychappy and others..
great discussion going on here...

feels good to see something more than the sum of inputs...

We started with some thoughts on understanding trps because I wanted to understand why trps of SC were low and look at us now...through this post all of us have contributed to give each other a better understanding of trps, why they are low, where the industry is moving (great link by @happychappy), what could be the possible solutions and now ongoing discussion on SC adaptation aspects...

also agree that since major adaptations have already been done (as desribed earlier in the post) and the essence is still present, SLB will continue to skillfully (though with great effort) and hopefully keep on making adaptations to suit current social sensibilities and still retain its uniqueness and essence...so we are in for a glorious ride...

And to tell you the truth...for the show will just enjoy the journey till it remains enjoyable (hopefully till the end)...and planning to adopt the Don's line to his sidekick Bosco from the Shahrukh Khan starrer Kabhi Haan Kabhi Naa... "Bosco note mat karo...feel karo...feel karo..."

Originally posted by: arshicritic

And this raises another critical issue, that of viewers ( including me) who have no or little knowledge of the original piece, have certain perceptions based on hearsay, and hence are basing their judgement on incomplete or incorrect knowledge.

All of us have such a sketchy knowledge of the original piece, i just have always thought of it as being about the angst of unfulfilled love and supreme sacrifice

That's why Samarth, part of the hullabaloo stems from ignorance and false notions.

So watching SC is going to be quite an experience, It is not a simple and straightforward romantic love story of two noble good people who sacrifice all for each other, as I had originally thought.

The original was written to appease the reader of that era and confirmed to the social order then

and so this version must appeal to the viewer of this era and must confirm to today's social system!!

Arshi
Once again, many thanks for initiating the topic. It's a great, gainful conversation here…
In conclusion, I fervently hope, SLB does justify and soothe a sore experience over my mother tongue's great piece of work which has never afforded a deserved adulation that befits its greatness to average viewers like me. In this I don't mind necessary adaption, believing that the work's real essence, which ironically got muddled in its end at very time of its inception, might get restored in an adaption!
There are two scares though; 'purists' and 'SLB's famed penchant'. Though TRPs appears to be proving a 'friend' for the moment! I cross my fingers and will follow hotdogg's advise- watch till you enjoy!
May we have some Kusum-Sunny banters for a start?!
😆

Originally posted by: smrth

@ bold,

Now this is something that is completely non existent in the book. Much as many of 'GR' adulators would like to see it coming so, SC has never helped Kumud in any which way in the book at least (ask the 'purists!). If anything, unwittingly, he has always been a bane in her life. There was no respite through out, at least in the book.

So in the forum when often I hear, "he shall help her redeem later" I always wonder, 'what? How?' Is helping her family a personal 'redemption'? (and even that was not there in the book, but assuming it happening here according to spoilers). I cringe at such 'skin pay backs'. Great, get one slaughtered and rush to help the 'survivors' as penance!! 🤢 Worse, let her get slaughtered again in the end in finding her miraculously surviving the first attempt!!🤢🤢