Four steps backwards, two steps forward - Page 3

Originally posted by: smrth

Vaishali,

You wrote everything I wanted to say. No matter how I admire GR's work, I can't help but notice a powerful tendency in the forum (and understandable, I am not complaining), which overlooks- tends to condone- some obvious lapses/ falters by the character SC, especially in his dealing with Kumud. Scriptwriters too are sometimes presenting convoluted logic/ twisting of their own previous scenes;

Two points stood out in his end speech today- (and let me tell you beforehand, on the whole I liked his confession immensely today, which is how it is in book too. He HAD accepted his love)-

1. He says, " You called me". By now She too believes it so! We viewers are now also buying the same. But in THE Scene, cvs put up the 'challenge' as after taunt to a clear directive OTHERWISE. She had asked him to sort out his mess with father. There IN Dubai. The challenge was a 'taunt' for not doing this obvious job, (that he failed, or would be failing in convincing his father was his problem not hers), and not an 'invitation'. She was actually surprised at seeing him in RN. And even if challenge would be taken as a long scratched 'invitation' - by now scratched so by her too!- then it was more as a demand to tender apology to her father. In fact, he too was ranting the same jaap, ' I had come here only to apologize'. So now how does it become an 'invitation' by her?!
2. Even more unsubstantial is his charge, "you didn't allow me to go." Now this I don't get at all. When?? In fact she not only didn't stop him before Yash Fiasco. She always pleaded him to go go go. Maybe I am missing something...

That the actor is doing a tremendous job. He is eye catching. He is the Lead. But all these should not alter objective facts about lapses of the character, I believe. No matter, how vulnerable his childhood was, or tragic his bind is, today his acts are directly and adversely affecting peace, reputation and prospect of a Girl and her entire family. Gumans and Sundars of the world are ready to pounce on them...But for his sheer honesty, his actions would almost be branded Casanova...he must publicly acknowledge the relationship. He must give due RESPECT to it...

Originally posted by: arshicritic

All this while I was reading all the other posts on this thread and all was said so beautifully, and I felt, nothing for me to add, except wow and wonderful.

So here I found my opportunity to poke my nose in

1. You called me :

Lets not take it literally, she taunted him, dared him, he was intrigued and couldn't put her words ( and the nazuk Kamaria) out of his mind.

Something in her challenge beckoned him and he landed up

She willed him to come, remember her saying to Kusum - woh aayega

So underneath her taunt was a desire to get him here - tumne mujhe bina dekhe na kyon kaha?

So she called him, and he came, and they both realize that

2. You didn't let me go

She wouldn't show him her face

She wouldn't let him speak to her

She let him know that her father would be devastated when he finds about the rishta

She says go, but she intrigues him, attracts him, looks out for him, helps him, fights for him

When he was leaving before the Yash fiasco, she was at the gate watching him, silently.

I like to think that they were both talking about what was happening beyond the words, and beyond the sequence of events

Originally posted by: arshicritic

All this while I was reading all the other posts on this thread and all was said so beautifully, and I felt, nothing for me to add, except wow and wonderful.

So here I found my opportunity to poke my nose in

1. You called me :

Lets not take it literally, she taunted him, dared him, he was intrigued and couldn't put her words ( and the nazuk Kamaria) out of his mind.

Something in her challenge beckoned him and he landed up

She willed him to come, remember her saying to Kusum - woh aayega

So underneath her taunt was a desire to get him here - tumne mujhe bina dekhe na kyon kaha?

So she called him, and he came, and they both realize that

2. You didn't let me go

She wouldn't show him her face

She wouldn't let him speak to her

She let him know that her father would be devastated when he finds about the rishta

She says go, but she intrigues him, attracts him, looks out for him, helps him, fights for him

When he was leaving before the Yash fiasco, she was at the gate watching him, silently.

I like to think that they were both talking about what was happening beyond the words, and beyond the sequence of events

Originally posted by: arshicritic

All this while I was reading all the other posts on this thread and all was said so beautifully, and I felt, nothing for me to add, except wow and wonderful.

So here I found my opportunity to poke my nose in

1. You called me :

Lets not take it literally, she taunted him, dared him, he was intrigued and couldn't put her words ( and the nazuk Kamaria) out of his mind.

Something in her challenge beckoned him and he landed up

She willed him to come, remember her saying to Kusum - woh aayega

So underneath her taunt was a desire to get him here - tumne mujhe bina dekhe na kyon kaha?

So she called him, and he came, and they both realize that

2. You didn't let me go

She wouldn't show him her face

She wouldn't let him speak to her

She let him know that her father would be devastated when he finds about the rishta

She says go, but she intrigues him, attracts him, looks out for him, helps him, fights for him

When he was leaving before the Yash fiasco, she was at the gate watching him, silently.

I like to think that they were both talking about what was happening beyond the words, and beyond the sequence of events

Originally posted by: vaishali-AR

@smrth- I agree with you on everything.. Saras has made some grave mistakes.. Its not just writing the letter. I am sure there's more than the rejection in that infamous letter that has hurt her..She keeps mentioning how he said relationships are burden and that she shouldn't put the burden of marriage on him.. That had completely ruined the image of the man she had pictured in her dreams..A girl of her stature ( morally speaking) will want the man of her dreams to be ''up there'' Saras had ruined that image of him by writing that letter.. I wish they had let us know the full content of the letter..After coming this far, knowing the fact about the painting, her dream, from Kumari and then all that transpired between them eversince, I would expect Saras not to confront her with her ''weakness'' , the fact that he is her weakness.. respect the woman in her..be a little sensitive thats it..! Repeatedly saying that you called me, you stopped me on her face is kinda ... not right, specially when he has an idea what she feels for him..After witnessing the whole family drama, where his own mom tried to tarnish her honor, I was expecting him to be little more patient and sensitive when she yelled at him.. That wasnt the moment to say you stopped me, you called me..Because I love Saras so much, I am willing to look at it the way Arshicritic explained..but from a neutral point of view and just on face value, those words sounded inappropriate and unecessary in that situation.. The last lines where he admits about their ''ehsaas'' made up for it..just about it..!!

Having said all that, I do think that it would be wrong to say who is more wrong or right than the other.. The whole point is Saras is misguided by his own inner conflicts and contradictions.. His feelings , actions and words are not in tandem.. rather all over the place.. Kumud will show him the way..she is the light in his darkness..she will guide him through..the first phase of their love story seems to be that..the focus of the later being on how Saras guides her through in her dark times...

Originally posted by: humeshaa

Anything to bring SaMud closer lol.. and don't worry about the chappals.. "main hoon na, Kumud".. i mean veera..😆

Originally posted by: smrth

Central theme slightly deviates; In book SC-Kumud had fallen headlong for each other post engagement and they had unambiguously admitted their love. To mention, how it has irrevocably seized Kumud's consciousness, quoting author's one sentence (from many such on both) ," nadi na nirmal jal ma aakash nu pratibimb anivarya atyajaya thai pade tem Saraswatichandra na antahkaran nu pratibimb nirdosh kanya ni mansik srushti ma sampurna, apratihat ane sarvakalin avakaash paami gayu..." Such kind of impact requires 'two way' call and mutual respects, not one sided 'deferments.😊

Am I going unnecessarily deep? Pardon me, if so.