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Posted: 12 years ago
You make an excellent point Srushti. I reckon SLb has bestowed his main characters with too much glamour and any depth that the original characters are meant to imbibe has been reduced by the many overused formulas. One being the many repetitive preconceived scenarios between the main leads that if anything is created only to flatter each others vanity and falls in the long line of obsession that indians have with romance. I find kumuds dressing a bit too glamourous to take her seriously as someone who was originally much simpler on the outside whilst the actress herself feels she has to go the melodramatic way whenever a scene concerns emotions running high. And I feel sick that some of the other characters have to promote how perfect, superior or wonderful kumud desai is as if we cannot make any other judgement of kumud because God forbid we do then we may end up as evil as Guman, who atleast has flaws in her to make her more believable. I mean come on, how many times do we have to hear about the 'perfect bahu', and it is not just this serial that is at fault, you see them in many indian soaps and it is grating my nerves. Kumud is not convincing and this goes down to the directors choice as well as his characterisation. Also he reduces other characters to subordinate roles when they seem to have screen prescence, and granted the story is centred on Saraswatichandra but as this is a lengthy serial not a film, there is no excuse for not using the time to explore the lives of some of the other characters besides the main ones, because repeating things gets you no where. In a way Danny and Kumari's story will be a refreshing turn from that.
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Posted: 12 years ago
They give a perfectly executed scenes between Saras and Kumud on some episodes, just as I get hooked, there is drab drama again.

I'm at complete loss at Why Kumud is crying so much? Is it the actress? Or script?
Where is that self assured girl who said by the pool ' Jahah pyaar hai Waha vishwaas hai' ..

I cannot see relate to this melodramatic glycerin queen, superstitious beliefs of going around tree as well, sorry Kumud has been butchered by one act of PMS. 😡
I would like them to utilize that angle of having had physical union ... their love growing stronger and much deeper than puppy love expressions. That also should make their interaction with each other much uninhibited.

I do not have any problems with her being shown glamorous, she is still wearing ghaghra choli..not western outfits that may have looked unrealistic.

Lesser the screen space for villainous characters the better. Cv's seem to have faltered by bringing in too many grey characters..


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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: -Srushti-


Slb of course adores all things majestic whether that is via the overwhelming sets, story and of course the magnified characters that inhabit and add to the large scale of his vision so you would generally assume that much of him as everything in his world is turned up a notch to the level of grandeur, grand gestures, you run out of adjectives to describe his love for big things. i love that he loves that, its a visual fest, but again, he fails whenever he has overused the same scenarios, it gets tedious to watch, how often can you keep repeating things without falling bland. I find it hard to sympathise with kumud, her emotions are somewhat overspent much like the costumes she wears, you could still look desirable with a more simpler clothing, just doesn't fit, not that I'm regressive, but it certainly fails to capture exterior simplicity, which kumud represents. Also the chemistry with saras is rather forced, unnatural, and also inadequate; as was mentioned in the previous comment. I completely agree with what you say regarding the other sisters, I am sure they are interesting people who surely have their own desires and passions aside from
getting their kicks from the saraskumud relationship. Props indeed, nothing more!!

Edited by rangeeni - 12 years ago

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Posted: 12 years ago
SC is hell boring now!🥱
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: rangeeni


@srushti @rangeeni,

1.I am glad that someone expressed the views which I held, the very introductory scene of Kumud getting the pearl for VC looked boasting to me, that too completely ignoring his other daughter, Kusum.

2.Other characters( kusum, gyan, chamdrika)in the show need to be given importance in their own way, rather than showing completely mogambo style conspiring villains.( I mean Umesh, Badi kaki, Yash).

3.Kumud is being shown over the top emotional for a separation of a few days, rather than looking ahead with excitement for the wedding presently .. Not digesting that. She is being made a too weak character, I mean making mannat.. of going around tree..she offered milk to poor kids instead of idols..that is Kumud for me). Make her strong to not a cry baby, not a lady to get scared by whatever saasuma says.

4. They have already had wedding (albeit to themselves)and suhaag raat. they trust each other..
They need to behave with each other like any married couple.
A wife crying so much .. Will make nusband's life a misery.

On the other hand, I completely agree with Kumud' costume. She is simple in her own way. After all Gujarati's wear bright colours, they are known have embellishments.
I can excuse backless choli for cinematic liberty, kusum's attire looks too mundane to me.
Kumud is also not shown to wear overthe top necklace everyday. Simplistic beauty there.
Hair again, very realistic, (the fringe of hair in front is bit long, but it is actresses's hair, a wig there is unreal)... Keep up with the dressing please.

An analogy here : any Indian attire looks too bright and grand to a westerner who is used to grey/black/blue suits. At the same time, wearing black ( which is considered classy in Western world) looks too monotonous and colorless to me.

I'm watching the show for the essence of love story, where I'm told the characters have their own ideals and are there for each other no matter what.. Marriage or not.

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Posted: 12 years ago
arghhh i hate the fact kumud's dad has changed, the other one had so much emotion and looked more like a loving funny dad!

Ive heard that saras will get married to kumud's sister kusum after he returns from dubai! is this true? i dont want it to be otherwise the show will go down i will never enjoy it again!

the fact that gumaan is manipulating and intimadating is annoying me, kumari is so innocent and shes implanted her poison in to her! itll end bad. I HATE UNHAPPY FAMILIES

BTW thankyou so much for the post, i reckon alot of peoples frustration will be alittle at ease. thanks :D

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Adiani

They give a perfectly executed scenes between Saras and Kumud on some episodes, just as I get hooked, there is drab drama again.


I'm at complete loss at Why Kumud is crying so much? Is it the actress? Or script?
Where is that self assured girl who said by the pool ' Jahah pyaar hai Waha vishwaas hai' ..

I cannot see relate to this melodramatic glycerin queen, superstitious beliefs of going around tree as well, sorry Kumud has been butchered by one act of PMS. 😡
I would like them to utilize that angle of having had physical union ... their love growing stronger and much deeper than puppy love expressions. That also should make their interaction with each other much uninhibited.

I do not have any problems with her being shown glamorous, she is still wearing ghaghra choli..not western outfits that may have looked unrealistic.

Lesser the screen space for villainous characters the better. Cv's seem to have faltered by bringing in too many grey characters..


Hey Adiani...I completely agree...Just like the episode last, the significance of the white and the coloured cloth was too good...and it might be an indication of the future furore...Kumud in the book had been a widow, and the white cloth seems to indicate that...Where as multicoloured, Saras since he gets involved with more than one woman. It is also signfying how Kumud who taught Saras to live and filled his life with colours would be left colourless because of him...

But then as you said, what drama with a 15 days separation...the courageous Kumud who stood tall against the whole village in the gau hatya track, is now crying buckets because her fiance is going to his home for few days and keeping baadhaas and all😕
She prays for his return as if he has gone to some war😕 We know that the separation is inevitable but at this moment of time, the characters are supposed to be blissfully unaware of that na???
About her dressings..as I said, I dont find anything wrong or right...I have just got used to her looking beautiful I guess😆

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: rangeeni


Slb of course adores all things majestic whether that is via the overwhelming sets, story and of course the magnified characters that inhabit and add to the large scale of his vision so you would generally assume that much of him as everything in his world is turned up a notch to the level of grandeur, grand gestures, you run out of adjectives to describe his love for big things. i love that he loves that, its a visual fest, but again, he fails whenever he has overused the same scenarios, it gets tedious to watch, how often can you keep repeating things without falling bland. I find it hard to sympathise with kumud, her emotions are somewhat overspent much like the costumes she wears, you could still look desirable with a more simpler clothing, just doesn't fit, not that I'm regressive, but it certainly fails to capture exterior simplicity, which kumud represents. Also the chemistry with saras is rather forced, unnatural, and also inadequate; as was mentioned in the previous comment. I completely agree with what you say regarding the other sisters, I am sure they are interesting people who surely have their own desires and passions aside from
getting their kicks from the saraskumud relationship. Props indeed, nothing more!!

Rageeni...I understand majestic, I understand over dramatic, I also understand OTP...but losing the track, the characters the plot is something I dont understand...
I dont understand how Kumari's father who befriended Umesh in the jail, doesnot know he is married. Neither does the pandit nor does anybody else. How nobody informs the Desais about this fiascos...in a village as small as this, where the whole village had come in a blink of an eye at the Desais, with the gau hatya, it is difficult to believe that Kumari has been meeting Umesh and nobody has tried to inform them.

I dont understand how DB who is so insightful of every desire of Saras and Kumud is so blissfully unaware of her daughter's heart, especially since she knows that her husband is in contact with their daughter.

I dont understand why Saras is hugging pillars and talking to Kabootars when he has to be separated fro Kumud for two days. I dont understand why he is behaving like a teenager when he was promoted as a complex man??
I dont understand why Kumud is crying for a 10 day separation...Even normally the groom hardly resides in the bride's house in the marriage does he? and arent they supposed to not meet each other after teh mehendi or something..so as why does she need to do the big baadha ??? arent there hundred of other things which would require the prayers ??

I dont understand how every family member was blissfully unaware that Saras and Kumud would have liked to meet each other once before they part before marriage???

I did not understand the vows that Saras keeps on making...the moons the stars the earth the sky...I understand that the beauty of the dialogue enhances but it seems artificial when everything is going hunky dory, it is not as if they are under a siege and meeting each otehr😕
As I said few symbollic things are just awesome...the moon scene if had been done without the dialogue would have been awesome, so was the shadow touching...and so was the white and colour cloth exchange...but these great scenes get buried under loads of other blah blah!!
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Adiani


@srushti @rangeeni,

1.I am glad that someone expressed the views which I held, the very introductory scene of Kumud getting the pearl for VC looked boasting to me, that too completely ignoring his other daughter, Kusum. Introductory scene I understand had a lot of drama...both their entries had...But later?? I remember how Kusum was carrying Kumud's luggage and Kumud was walking like a queen ahead of her...I mean it seemed so pompous...When Saras came and the sisters exchanged their clothes, it seemed like a bond...like two sisters conspiring..but later scenes...as if Kusum has no life but to be a shadow of Kumud..she has no identity no existence...the way the whole house goes gaga over Kumud and ignores existence of every other girl...infact the first time I thought that VC knew he had another daughter was when he talked to DB about not hiding the facts with the future in laws of Kusum and Kumari...

2.Other characters( kusum, gyan, chamdrika)in the show need to be given importance in their own way, rather than showing completely mogambo style conspiring villains.( I mean Umesh, Badi kaki, Yash).

3.Kumud is being shown over the top emotional for a separation of a few days, rather than looking ahead with excitement for the wedding presently .. Not digesting that. She is being made a too weak character, I mean making mannat.. of going around tree..she offered milk to poor kids instead of idols..that is Kumud for me). Make her strong to not a cry baby, not a lady to get scared by whatever saasuma says.
you have nailed it here...Kumud is strong, defiant...and courageous...not the sappy girl who would be running around a tree for making badhas so that her lover can return from his impending journey...I understand had it been a separation or someone was hospitalized or their union was opposed or something..but for this??😕
4. They have already had wedding (albeit to themselves)and suhaag raat. they trust each other..
They need to behave with each other like any married couple.
A wife crying so much .. Will make nusband's life a misery.
hahha that surely would be horrendous...wife crying everytime her husbands goes out of the house ...'na jaao saiyaan!"😆
On the other hand, I completely agree with Kumud' costume. She is simple in her own way. After all Gujarati's wear bright colours, they are known have embellishments.
I can excuse backless choli for cinematic liberty, kusum's attire looks too mundane to me.
Kumud is also not shown to wear overthe top necklace everyday. Simplistic beauty there.
Hair again, very realistic, (the fringe of hair in front is bit long, but it is actresses's hair, a wig there is unreal)... Keep up with the dressing please.

An analogy here : any Indian attire looks too bright and grand to a westerner who is used to grey/black/blue suits. At the same time, wearing black ( which is considered classy in Western world) looks too monotonous and colorless to me.I would agree to this and Kumud was promoted with this dressing...as a daughter from a Rangrez family...so that goes with the flow...abiout the backless things...I guess she looks gorgeous enough for us to ignore it..and there are many communities in Gujarat who wear backless, even 90 year old woman would be found in a backless choli...😆 it is their traditional dress..

I'm watching the show for the essence of love story, where I'm told the characters have their own ideals and are there for each other no matter what.. Marriage or not.true...me too

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Posted: 12 years ago
Kusum doesn't even have her own identity, she's basically non existent in the Slb scheme of things and she is too beautiful to be in the dark, honestly I find her more beautiful than her didi.
Sunny has such a great presence but undervalued. I fail to get how these 2 have not noticed each other as it would atleast give them more screen space whereas Kumari n Danny are on their way to something.
That's my moan for today.

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