Negativity does not work in any aspect.... - Page 2

I am in no way offending alekh, but I blame his behaviour on his immaturity, and clouded judgment. Just think about it, he threw sadhna out of the house, didn't care about what would happen to her, and then all of a sudden he expects her to know that he still loves her and wanted to eventually take her back. Had sadhna divorced him open heartedly, and based upon personal the reasons above, I wouldn't have even blamed her then. But Alekh only see's what she did as wrong, without seeing any wrong in his part- just like a child. For Alekh, his negativity is his default emotion when his hurt, his easily tempered (i.m.o). Alekh clearly doesn't have a wide spectrum view of things, he is very narrow in his view point.

Originally posted by: sonya85

I am in no way offending alekh, but I blame his behaviour on his immaturity, and clouded judgment. Just think about it, he threw sadhna out of the house, didn't care about what would happen to her, and then all of a sudden he expects her to know that he still loves her and wanted to eventually take her back. Had sadhna divorced him open heartedly, and based upon personal the reasons above, I wouldn't have even blamed her then. But Alekh only see's what she did as wrong, without seeing any wrong in his part- just like a child. For Alekh, his negativity is his default emotion when his hurt, his easily tempered (i.m.o). Alekh clearly doesn't have a wide spectrum view of things, he is very narrow in his view point.

Also on the point of accountability, while I share the view that people are held accountable for their wrong doings, I also believe that this excludes those who repent and return to the right path. For such people there is forgiveness, because they have called themselves to account. After all, the mercy of God is upon those who repent with sincerity.

very nice reply...

Sadhna has a very valid point...what is left in the marriage to end...is a sign so important, is it not important that Alekh and she does not even recognose their relationship in public...Alekh is dancing to romantic tunes with Mallika in front of his wife...what is left in the relationship...

secondly, your point about forgiveness and repentence is very true...repentence is the only way to wash off the sins, but that needs to be done with a true heart...the best example is the transformation of Ratnakar daciot to Valmiki Rishi...

Originally posted by: Omshanti1111

the best judge of a show is the audience, its a neutral viewer who decides the fate, otherwise the maker should make the show for themselves to watch and wait for some sycophants to analyse the show...

The maker of the show will now show strong backbone in a character which had no backbone, in the name of suiting the track. Remember one thing, as per human psychology books [(they know better than me) (cant say about you, I am a PhD, you might be a DSc.)], basic human bature never changes. Also, I feel God knows more than me, He says in GITA that a person is accountable for all his deeds...good or bad. Now if Rajan Shahi considers himself God, and starts showing Ragini is the greatest and the truthful characte and that Karma does not hold any significance, then I'ld start having doubts about many thing...his sycophants can label him as GOD, but I am sorry I and many others will not be able to do that....

yes, no way does negativity help in any aspect.

Negativity didn't work out in Bidaai cos the basic character of one of the leads was changed drastically just to suit this on-going headache(i mean track)for the last 5 months.I wouldn't mind if a character like Ragini who was mellow to begin with show a bit of backbone.The first turn around wasn't realistic so this shouldn't sound look too bad either.Basic characteristics doesn't change.By that Ragini's basic character is that of a loving and sensible and respectful and humble girl to begin with.So,it would really not be a turn around if we get to see her like that again.But I hope its a long road ahead for her cos of her damning dialogues instead of having it easy!

Originally posted by: smitha80

Negativity didn't work out in Bidaai cos the basic character of one of the leads was changed drastically just to suit this on-going headache(i mean track)for the last 5 months.I wouldn't mind if a character like Ragini who was mellow to begin with show a bit of backbone.The first turn around wasn't realistic so this shouldn't sound look too bad either.Basic characteristics doesn't change.By that Ragini's basic character is that of a loving and sensible and respectful and humble girl to begin with.So,it would really not be a turn around if we get to see her like that again.But I hope its a long road ahead for her cos of her damning dialogues instead of having it easy!

exactly..in real life if we observe, there r a lot of tensions b/w the family members & if u go out and try to find a solid reason, u will not find any..it's just human nature and different kind of conflicts tht we go through in our lives on daily basis..sometimes we're hurt by someone's statements , sometimes we think others r jealous of us etc. etc. but therez nothing huge like these serials show..scheming n all...it's not very uncommon to find uneasiness b/w ur closest relationships..like parents & their children, b/w a brother and a brother, b/w sisters...here i'm talking about the blood relations, the rest r far away , they don't even count..obviously they come very low in ur priority list..i've seen friction b/w relationships & in real life, it's difficult to overcome them bec. we hardly try to understand others perspective..we normally prefer to stay quiet to avoid any major conflict....

for characters like sadhna and ragini who r by nature good & caring , friction can never develop b/w the 2 until and unless one of them turns slightly grey..which happens in real life...i still believe Ragini's change of behavior was to an extent justified (after ranvir's jail and after she lost her baby..rest was all misunderstanding created by vasu) ..i was just annoyed on sadhna for constantly hiding imp. facts.. when the solution was as simple as discussing the problem with ranvir(who wud have surely believed her & helped her in maamiji's operation) or maamaji , she went on hiding everything from everybody and landed herself in this mess..just to drag the story..ranvir will obviously find out the truth ..

i agree with all of u tht it's more of Alekh's fault here...but he's just recovered frm a major illness and probably he understands relationships as he's experiencing it..nobody is bad here except vasu who's turned into a full time vamp 🤢

Originally posted by: _charu_

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agree with u..accepted sadhna is an angel, she's the epitome of goodness but her goodness will not reduce 0.000000001% if she shares her problems with her loved ones and don't give them a chance to misunderstand her...

i still can't see any reason as to why she hid it frm maamaji tht vinu mortgaged the house...

>> This would create distance between son and father and Sharmaji may even get ill/ heart problem suddenly knowing this secret that Kaushi signed without informing him ... such a big dhoka from Kaushi .. so this one is justified. Sadhna is right

and she hid it frm mallika tht she's alekh's wife..

>> Why Sadhna need to tell this to Mallika? Then she needs to wash all family dirty linen in front of outsiders .... because being Alekh's wife, why would she stay with Mamaji, why mamaji out of need would work as a chaprasi at this age etc.. etc ... why Vasu does not want Alekh .. because now Alkeh is mentally fine, earlier he was mentally challenged .. you want Sadhna to tell all these to anyone where she just shares a profesisonal relationship????

can't fathom how these things can be kept secret....then sadi says tht she'll have to bow down to the circumstances..she's forgetting she herself created these circumstances...but she's not God, she cannot write anybody's destiny..

I'm surprised she's talking to Ranvir that way,

>> Sadhna was ready to explain Alekh everything .. now Alekh wants to hear only Yes or No and then Alekh ready to marry Mallika ... what's her point telling all these to Ranvir ....

lying to her maamaji, the only people who genuinely care for her..and ppl. like vasu who dominate her, she silently bows down to them.....I'm not blaming her, she's my fav. character in bidai but i can't understand why these lead heroines love to keep secrets which create misunderstandings ..n the stories r messed up n dragged for months...

Originally posted by: _charu_

agree with u..accepted sadhna is an angel, she's the epitome of goodness but her goodness will not reduce 0.000000001% if she shares her problems with her loved ones and don't give them a chance to misunderstand her...i still can't see any reason as to why she hid it frm maamaji tht vinu mortgaged the house...and she hid it frm mallika tht she's alekh's wife..can't fathom how these things can be kept secret....then sadi says tht she'll have to bow down to the circumstances..she's forgetting she herself created these circumstances...but she's not God, she cannot write anybody's destiny..I'm surprised she's talking to Ranvir that way, lying to her maamaji, the only people who genuinely care for her..and ppl. like vasu who dominate her, she silently bows down to them.....I'm not blaming her, she's my fav. character in bidai but i can't understand why these lead heroines love to keep secrets which create misunderstandings ..n the stories r messed up n dragged for months...

with whom she should share...Rgaini,she is so engrossed in her own problems and pain, Mamaji..he himself is sick, Vinu...is he trustworthy...Ranveer and Alekh- noway as they are from sasural, and its an age old concept of middle-class families that they dont take money from daughter's saural...Mallika,,did Sdahna ever share anything with her, Mallika shouted and shared, whenever she wanted what ever she wanted. Mallika and Sdahna's relationship is determined and dictated by Mallika, did Sadhna ever utter any other stuff to Mallika....how will Sadhna go and say that Alekh is my husband, when Alekh and others in Rajvansh family do not recognise her (remember the party)...Alekh is dancing with Mallika on a romantic tune...what option is she left with...

But definitely I'ld have loved to see Sdahna not bowing down, she should have tried something else from before only, instead of relying on the Nritya Mahotsav...