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Posted: 16 years ago
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Aalekh is a schizophrenia patient, and Sholk treating him is better than ragvir sitting with him.. i never said to change the scenes ...but people here and there, all that shown was still possible with changing the people.. elder person in the hospital.. mamaji was there along with sholk.. instead it would have been ragini with mamaji in the hospital.. chotima going there didn't make any sense looking at aalekh's condition, as he was shown too worse .. and schizophrenic patient cannot be neglected without treatment like shown as sholk saying it is a guilt feeling.. he cannot say that , because this particular problem is like that they needed to be treated immediately.. cannot be left alone.. as what is the use of shlok sitting in the hospital for sadhana's sake as she was left alone without anyone in the room for her to talk..

she just survived an attack and there should be someone inside the room to take care of her.. it is very unrealistic .. being male members they do have limitation to help her, rather it would have been ragini who is so close to her to help her in those situations, rather than sitting with aalekh and could not do anything..


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Posted: 16 years ago
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Shlok is Aalekh's doctor and whether Aalekh wants him or not Shlok should be there beside him.Isn't it the job of psychiatrists to be with their patients especially when they are at their most vulnerable?And Ragvir haven't done anything or able to reach to Aalekh when he was crying his heart out.Sadhana is one person who could control him and chotimaa too instead chotimaa was in the hospital.Why??IMHO,Bidai was most unrealistic last 2 days.I am only talking about ragini not staying,Shlok staying with Sadhana(when as his doc he should have stayed with Aalekh),chotimaa leaving Aalekh(when she is the one closest to him).
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Shlok is actually not Alekh's doctor as far as Alekh is concerned, he is just a friend. Alekh doesnt even know Shlok is treating him, so its actually not a siutation where Shlok can force himself there, and he would not do so, because its not the way to treat an unstable man. How can he rush to Alekh's side when Alekh is not ready to even look at him? Its the height of dangerous to force a skitzophrenic patient to go against his wishes, we have seen what Alekh does when he is unhappy with a tiny thing, and he is in such a state of shock, he has to be allowed to come to terms with his fear for a while.Shlok is the last person he would want to see, can you really see Alekh being forced to talk to Shlok against his wishes?

As a trained pyschiatrist, when Sadhna asked him to go to Alekh, he said he would go later, and told Mamji that Alekh had to come out of his guilt. Now how is that unrealistic? Ranvir and Ragini are his real anchors after Sadhna, even Vasu asked them to look after Alekh and they couldnt stop him from crying but they did stay with him for support. Could Shlok or Chotima stop him from crying because he saw his beloved wife shot? Come on.

Ragini, by the way, couldnt have stayed in the ICU with sadhna anyways, and anyone who has had an operation can back me up that noone is allowed in your cabin, much less hanging around to give you phones and be there to chat with you. Thats actually a realistic showing of hospitals and not some random attempt by the creatives to foce some nice sisterly moments. I can see thats upsetting for a lot of people, but its these tiny details-Ragini doing what she needs to, helping Alekh, and Shlok respecting his friend needing to deal with the guilt before showing up to do doctoring, that makes Bidaai good to watch.

I cannot imagine Ragini throwing herself across Sadhna's bed and crying and doing melodrama when she needs to be strong for her family and jijaji. Noone right now canr each Alekh, he is in a world of his own where his guilt and shame is something he wont even talk about. Give him, and Shlok time.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: napstermonster

Shlok is actually not Alekh's doctor as far as Alekh is concerned, he is just a friend. Alekh doesnt even know Shlok is treating him, so its actually not a siutation where Shlok can force himself there, and he would not do so, because its not the way to treat an unstable man. How can he rush to Alekh's side when Alekh is not ready to even look at him? Its the height of dangerous to force a skitzophrenic patient to go against his wishes, we have seen what Alekh does when he is unhappy with a tiny thing, and he is in such a state of shock, he has to be allowed to come to terms with his fear for a while.Shlok is the last person he would want to see, can you really see Alekh being forced to talk to Shlok against his wishes?

I cannot imagine Ragini throwing herself across Sadhna's bed and crying and doing melodrama when she needs to be strong for her family and jijaji. Noone right now canr each Alekh, he is in a world of his own where his guilt and shame is something he wont even talk about. Give him, and Shlok time.



Patients do not take decisions on their state of mind and treatments.. sholk scene is wasted as he should be with aalekh whether he likes it or not.. sholk infornt of aalekh told to the police that he is his doctor so aalekh knows what is going on.. and state of mind of aalekh is like that, he may even forget the friendship.. that is the way this type of sickness plays..

who is asking ragini to sit next to sadhana and cry.. where as she can really comfort sadhana's present state of mind, as problem going on her and aalekh.. and we cannot say she is still ICU if that was the case no one would have allowed entry.. as she is out of dangerous situation..
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Posted: 16 years ago
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in any case I think that the realistic touches have added to the show and I dont think the creatives are at all messing up the sequence, but in fact making sure everyone is doing their respective jobs.

Shlok is waiting for Alekh to calm down and be able to talk, Ragini is being with her Jijaji when he has had the biggest shock and Choti ma is doing her job as an elder, being there as Sadhna's visitor.

I look forward to the creatives giving us such scenes where there is no unnecessary drama nor actions which are out of place for a doctor and his patient, and which anyone can see will aggravate Alekh if he is forced, not help him.

And yeah, Sadhna is in the ICU, where Visitors are allowed for a little while, but nurses and doctors are the permanent caregivers not relatives. When she asked to be discharged, her doctor said no, and when he saw all the families in her room, he immediately insisted they leave save Alekh who stayed for a few minutes.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: napstermonster



Shlok is waiting for Alekh to calm down and be able to talk.



nobody wait for the mental patient to calm down,, 🤣🤣 they should be treated immediately that too when his doctor is around , much better
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: rano-

Why did Sholak stay at the hospital. He is no one to her. That was not real, Ragini should have stayed instead.

exactly,why shlok is there?why not Mamiji,veenu,ragini,ranveer,vasu there ??
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: ks80

Shlok is Aalekh's doctor and whether Aalekh wants him or not Shlok should be there beside him.Isn't it the job of psychiatrists to be with their patients especially when they are at their most vulnerable?And Ragvir haven't done anything or able to reach to Aalekh when he was crying his heart out.Sadhana is one person who could control him and chotimaa too instead chotimaa was in the hospital.Why??IMHO,Bidai was most unrealistic last 2 days.I am only talking about ragini not staying,Shlok staying with Sadhana(when as his doc he should have stayed with Aalekh),chotimaa leaving Aalekh(when she is the one closest to him).

Sholak should have left with Alekh, Ragini and Ranbir....so that he could be with Alekh to help him. Alekh left because he got disturbed about something, and that was more of a reason for Sholak to be with Alekh and to treat him, and not Sadhna. Poor Alekh, when he needed his friend and doctor Sholak he wasn't there for him Sadhna doesn't need him, she probably feels weird having him their.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Of COURSE no one waits for a mental patient to calm down ! We should agitate a mental patient more and more by forcing him at a breakdown time to talk and talk ! They have to be treated IMMEDIATELY and not made to calm down and relax and rest. We should not listen to the doctor who knows best.

Then the Rajvansh family shooting Alekh with injections EVERYTIME he is agitated TO CALM HIM DOWN is the stupid thing to do I suppose? And yet this has been the treatment for his shock and emotions for the past 20 years or so, and it has worked as it has clearly stopped him from going fully insane.

I guess THATS how the creatives should have written this scene, with Shlok quickly leaving the hospital to run to Alekh, who wont even look at him, and forcing some kind of interaction. Then Alekh could have had a full breakdown, become more alienated from Shlok and refused to ever be open with his insensive stupid friend.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: napstermonster


Of COURSE no one waits for a mental patient to calm down ! We should agitate a mental patient more and more by forcing him at a breakdown time to talk and talk ! They have to be treated IMMEDIATELY and not made to calm down and relax and rest. We should not listen to the doctor who knows best.

Then the Rajvansh family shooting Alekh with injections EVERYTIME he is agitated TO CALM HIM DOWN is the stupid thing to do I suppose? And yet this has been the treatment for his shock and emotions for the past 20 years or so, and it has worked as it has clearly stopped him from going fully insane.

I guess THATS how the creatives should have written this scene, with Shlok quickly leaving the hospital to run to Alekh, who wont even look at him, and forcing some kind of interaction. Then Alekh could have had a full breakdown, become more alienated from Shlok and refused to ever be open with his insensive stupid friend.

He could have gone with him as a friend, if he was worried about him. After all they are friends.

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