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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: White-Rose

At least I don't appreciate such nonsense just becoz of chemistry. Writers need to stop such nonsense, an old man turning psycho for someone who is half of his age. Love doesn't mean only fall for any girl, what about his love for his son? What about his responsibility towards Durga?

This is just lust.

I don't think shravan got normal upbringing. He was blackmailed by Gaura to get married with any Modi girl. Meera, Vidya or Rashi, but girl should be Modi for some illogical revenge. Even after marriage he didn't get what he was promised. All these years dharam was busy in Licking legs of his mom, never cared about his child or wife. Never fall in love with his son or wife but now out of blue he is in love with someone who is much younger than him.

Such love is seasonal.


If someone has lust, they don't care about your feelings or thoughts. They simply like the person for their looks and body. If Dharam was simply lusting after meera, he would not care if she was in pain - he took care of her after the cheerharan, he took beatings for her, he let her sleep on the bed because her leg was injured and he tried his best to impress her by changing his ways. He changed his clothing, he changed his attitude etc
Most of all, if he was only after her for lust, he would give zero hoots about her image or reputation in society but he couldn't tolerate her getting insulted in court. That's why he attacked the lawyer, that's why he was willing to take the blame on himself despite being innocent, that's why he forgave Meeras parents even though they did wrong to him.

About Durga, have you ever wondered why Dharam doesn't care for her? Why he never cared to bring her back home for ten whole years. Clearly there's more to the story and instead of judging someone, it's important to know the full story.
For me, such love is not seasonal, but such love is blind.
Edited by xPalkix - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Snsaddict


showing murder..if you are referring to Gopi killing Radha..Radha was evil.a wicked,shrill witch..from time immemorial..thats how evil was vanquished..by killing them..there was no chance of her turning good..Radha was *and of course,killing off a character is the best way to make sure of a characters permanent exit* Killing Radha was Gopis way of making sure she never came back again...

Murder..or attempted murder..would be what Gaura and her son did.

1)Drugging Ahem, pouring oil ard him, lighting forecrackers to make sure he roasted.

2) Locking Kokila in the trunk and pushing it into the water (but honestly, im with Gaura on this one..i wldnt have cried for Kokila at all)

Her rape of jigar..see..she was evil..evil evil..why not kill her off?

Trying to kill little Meera..see above

The reasoning does not change the fact that it was murder. Murder is not always the last resort to things, she could have sent Radha to get treated (especially considering a baby is dependent on her) cus Radha was clearly mentally disturbed and damaged. They forgave Urmila who did many 'evil' things, once she risked Gopi's life by sending her down the well. Though, I agree with Gopi in this situation.
Yes Dharam and Guara did try to kill Kokila, Meera and Ahem and I still don't forgive Guara for that. But at the end of the day it was attempted murder. And Guara still hasn't redeemed herself for that, whereas, Dharam has. He apologised and he has tried his best to change himself. Releasing your mistake and being a better person is the best thing you could do and Dharam has done that.

False rape accusations:again..i think you are referring to the Dharam Meera lizard incident.. I think it was mentioned in a few threads before..mum came in..heard screaming..saw what was in front of her eyes..and naturally a mums instinct kicked in..this is also, taking into consideration what he and his mum have ALREADY done to trouble the family..anything was possible at that moment..

This is a sad excuse for Gopi. I don't agree with this at all, I think many people do not understand the consequences of accusing an innocent person of rape. It has disastrous consequences in real life and because this is just an insensitive show, I didn't care to start topics bashing Gopi. But since you mention, I couldn't help myself.
Yes okay, it can be argued that Gopi had full right as 'self defence' to do what she did taking Dharam's history into account and the scream she heard. But I don't think that's a valid excuse. Is Gopi so senseless that she failed to acknowledge Dharam was unconscious and meera's constant protests. Surely an unconsciousness man cannot do much and if the person whom you believe is the victim, is protesting then what logic did Gopi have to beat Dharam like that? That for me, was absolutely disgusting. And on top of that, she accused him of rape and even went to court WITHOUT SOLID PROOF. If people start doing that in real life, sadly the police will not take any genuine rape complaints seriously and real victims suffer as a result. But this is just a show so chill.
Btw Gopi also knew Dharam saved Meera from cheerharan, surely she should have thought about that.

Anyone who cuts themselves for love has issues. They need help. The family came in time, what would have happened had they not? He was getting all pushy there..Maybe psycho is a strong word, i would say sick.

I agree with this point. What were the cvs thinking man 😆


Oh he is welcome to love anyone..younger, older...But definitely not his daughter-in-laws sister. while still being married to his sons mother.

They're not blood related but, I find incest wrong. I don't like the muddle of relationship either, but it's not the end of the world. At least it's not Gopi who's married to Dharam or anything more bizarre 😆


But Ahem and even loud kokila are different from Gaura and Dharam. Kokila never instigated Ahem to kill or physicallyhurt gopi just to take revenge for a perceived snub.

If Guara told Dharam to marry Meera for revenge, Kokila too pressured Ahem to marry Gopi. Different reasons but both marriages were forced. Dharam didn't hurt Meera btw

He doesn't have to love her..but he doesn't have to heap abuse on her. And he shouldnt allow his mother to do it either.

Why only blame Dharam though? Even Shravan as a son should be helping his mum. If I was him, I would never let my mum get abused like that. I'd immediately tell her to leave someone like Dharam who doesn't give two shits about her and go live a happy independent life.



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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Maansexi

I like there chemistry , 100% but this is daily soap and it's pure entertainment , I have no objection over this as specially in today's episode dhram made it clear he only love meera .

Coming back to Durga - dhram never accepted her as his wife, he do not have any mental or psysical relationship with Durga, he never we Mr close to her, never tried anything and with reputation from Durga, that dhram never accepted her as his wife, it's pretty clear that this is not a husband and wife relationship.

If a person don't like someone , you can not force them to live a unhappy life.

I am liking this as dhram is thinking on behalf of Durga , I am sure time will come where dhram will completely in paper separate as well. I mean they are already separate , there is enough proof there.

For what dhram did in past from trying to kill to merry meera, he is repenting, how can you bash a person when that person is repenting??? And please don't tell me about logic, sns never had logic.

What's wrong with merrying someone half your age?? This thing happens and if 2 person is happy who are we to say?

And last this is fiction please don't fight LOL


You like that chemistry that is your choice. I have nothing to say about it.

Dharam did tell Durga that he loves Meera but he also apologized her for mistreating her. He has assured that he will give her the right and respect that she deserves and that is a good sign. I said these in my previous posts and even now I stick to the same thing that whether or not he accepts Durga as his wife it does not change the fact that Durga is his legally wedded wife and what dharam did is wrong. As per hindu law, a man cannot have two wives. If he marries second time while the first one is alive it is void. If Meera does the same thing, Dharam will kill her. Moreover, he married her without telling her about Durga's existence. Once he has married Durga, he has married her. His non acceptance cannot change the fact. What Dharam did was bigamy and it is a crime.

Dharam didn't like Meera either but he gave into his mom's words and did that.

There is no indication of such a thing happening wherein it says durga is not his wife and Shravan is not his son. He admitted to Durga that he married her which means that it is clear that durga is his wife and Shravan his biological son.

I agree with you on this part that sns has no logic. Marrying a person half of your age is ok provided it does not complicate other relationships. Though there is no blood relationship, the fact is that dharam is vidya's FIL. It is not possible for Vidya to consider Meera as her MIL who has been her sister all her life. She has got blood relationship with Meera as they are born to the same mother.

As for forcing, dharam should learn to be happy with Durga. If he didn't want to marry her he should have refused.
Edited by sharoon3210 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: xPalkix


If someone has lust, they don't care about your feelings or thoughts. They simply like the person for their looks and body. If Dharam was simply lusting after meera, he would not care if she was in pain - he took care of her after the cheerharan, he took beatings for her, he let her sleep on the bed because her leg was injured and he tried his best to impress her by changing his ways. He changed his clothing, he changed his attitude etc
Most of all, if he was only after her for lust, he would give zero hoots about her image or reputation in society but he couldn't tolerate her getting insulted in court. That's why he attacked the lawyer, that's why he was willing to take the blame on himself despite being innocent, that's why he forgave Meeras parents even though they did wrong to him.

About Durga, have you ever wondered why Dharam doesn't care for her? Why he never cared to bring her back home for ten whole years. Clearly there's more to the story and instead of judging someone, it's important to know the full story.
For me, such love is not seasonal, but such love is blind.


This is even more funny.
Feelings and Dharam in same sentence is like a joke

A person who was feeling less, emotionless and on moral ground he was worthless started feeling something out of blue. That jerk never cared about his own flesh and blood shravan and out of nowhere he started caring about meera. He used Durga as a sex object and suddenly he is in love with Meera is less than half of her age. He tried to kill someone is now acting like he has value of emotions. And after that he did some silly things like he changed his cloths, he served his own food, he washed his own cloths means he became saint? Bullshit

Crime1- He got involved in bigamy with open eyes. He knew that he was already married.

Crime2- attempt to murder

Crime3- mentally tortured to his legally wedded wife

Crime4- fraud with his illegally wedded wife by not informing her about his first marriage.

Crime5- careless and worthless father (to donate sperms is not only duty of father )

Crime6- he wanted to use teenager Vidya for some revenge, that's why he got his son married with her.


After all these he changed some sides on bed without disturbing meera means ganga naah li?

All these sweet and cute drama are just to bring meera on his bed coz meera is not fully trapped yet. Once he is done with meera, he would go and sit in charan of his mother to plan and plot murder and on other side meera and Durga would show their regret by dancing on pinga and dola re dola. Can't stay away from his true self for more time.

@underline - what is there to wonder. Gaura never asked her to do that, so he didn't bring her home. Gaura wanted to use Durga to blackmail shravan. I don't think I need to put more brain on such simple thing.

That man never fall in love with his own child is now blindly in love is a joke.

Nicole krausse has sais- Love is not blind, love sees but doesn't mind. How true.

But if dharam cares about meera then he should let her go. Sign papers (it's not important coz that is an illegal marriage but sign it just for meera) and give her freedom. He can love her as daughter, niece, nephew if he just want to love her and there is no lust.
Edited by White-Rose - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@sharoon

Again that's your prospective and I can't do much about it.

However you can not force a person to live with someone who he doesn't like, and yes I agree dhram should give divorce to Durga, which I am sure it will happen soon.

And for Durga not his wife or shvan not his son, knowing sns and the fan base dheera have, wait few months and we will see shift in storyline, I am sure all this is planned otherwise which cvs would middle such relationship up like this.

I am waiting for that
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: White-Rose



This is even more funny.
Feelings and Dharam in same sentence is like a joke.

Okay... I don't see what is so funny about this but each to their own 😕

A person who was feeling less, emotionless and on moral ground he was worthless started feeling something out of blue. That jerk never cared about his own flesh and blood shravan and out of nowhere he started caring about meera. He used Durga as a sex object and suddenly he is in love with Meera is less than half of her age. He tried to kill someone is now acting like he has value of emotions. And after that he did some silly things like he changed his cloths, he served his own food, he washed his own cloths means he became saint? Bullshit

The use of the words, 'jerk' and 'bullshit', indicate that you clearly do not have a liking for Dharam and so, arguing with you hopeless. But I'll waste my time anyway and defend Dharam cus I do like him.

First of all, your point about Dharam not caring about his 'own flesh' is pointless, it was Sharvan who made Dharam realise his mistake in the first place. Not even Meera but it was because of Shravan why Dharam felt guilty and he snapped out of Guara plans.
Secondly, he never used Durga as a 'sex object'. What where did you get that theory from 😆 He does not even care to look at her once, let alone use her as a 'sex object'.
Thirdly, a person can fall in love with anyone at any time, there is no procedure or requirements for love so comments regarding the age gap is pointless for me.
@Bold Redemption dear. Redemption is a beautiful thing, it can change a person so drastically. Of course, in this show Dharam suddenly turned positive out of nowhere which even surprised me but that's why I keep saying don't take this show seriously, it is illogical and absolutely unrealistic. If you're going to hammer on about Dharam, there are so many other senseless things I could talk about too.
And no Dharam does not become a saint, please don't say that, I don't want him to become a saint otherwise the show will become absolutely soppy again. I like how he has a voice of his own in the show. Btw all those things you mentioned about him serving food and all, it suggests he is a changed man and trying to be a better person.


Crime1- He got involved in bigamy with open eyes. He knew that he was already married.
I don't believe in this Durga mess, the story is clearly untold and half finished. I mean ten years and Dharam didn't even miss her once? It was Sharvan who had to gamble for his mum to come back. For now, it's said Dharam is married to Durga and yes you're right it is bigamy. Even Meera and Durga should be blamed for this, not just Dharam. Meera did not know about his first wife but she did find out later on and she did nothing to protest against it. Technically, both Durga and Meera committed a secondary offence by assisting a criminal. If Dharam is going down, so are all of em 😆

Crime2- attempt to murder

This is correct, Dharam and Guara did commit this crime, no argument there. I was actually going to stop watching the show because of the way Dharam was acting but then he changed 😃 The thing is almost every single character of this show has committed terrible. Gopi beat Dharam up like a crazy person, kidnapping Meera against her will (forcing and dragging someone against their will is kidnapping), stealing the Suryavanshi car, damaging their property etc etc. Ahem beating Dharam up and then the Modis lying to the police about it. All of them are serious crimes in my book. But it's a show, no point in going on and on about it 🥱


Crime3- mentally tortured to his legally wedded wife

Hang on what is this actually about? If you are saying Dharam deprived Durga of rights as his wife then yes that is domestic abuse. However, I think that along with Durga, Dharam is also being 'mentally tortured'. Dharam and Durga's relationship screams forced and Dharam seems to be pressurised into this marriage. It's an unwanted marriage and a forced marriage is always wrong.


Crime4- fraud with his illegally wedded wife by not informing her about his first marriage.

I don't want to say anything without knowing the full story. Mostly, I want to know why Durga was away for ten years?

Crime5- careless and worthless father (to donate sperms is not only duty of father )

Again, it was Sharavan who woke up Dharam and made him be a better person. He took care of Sharavan by providing shelter and resources and is still taking care of him. In fact, it's Shravan who is careless and worthless son. What son lets his dad get beaten up and what son lets others accuse his dad of rape? 🤢 I don't even understand why Dharam cares for such an ungrateful son? Shravan is also a bad son to his mother, why is he giving her bad advice to tolerate Dharam who gives her no importance?

Crime6- he wanted to use teenager Vidya for some revenge, that's why he got his son married with her.

And what crime is this specifically? 😕 Is Guara not also involved in this? Is Shravan not wrong to gamble with Vidhyas life for the sake of his mum.

After all these he changed some sides on bed without disturbing meera means ganga naah li?

All these sweet and cute drama are just to bring meera on his bed coz meera is not fully trapped yet. Once he is done with meera, he would go and sit in charan of his mother to plan and plot murder and on other side meera and Durga would show their regret by dancing on pinga and dola re dola. Can't stay away from his true self for more time.

What?! Dude if Dharam wanted so badly to have sex with Meera then he would have done so long time ago trust me. Yes he wants to have relationship with Meera but that's only because he has given her a right as his wife, he never wanted to use her. He has already said he would never hurt Meera. Am I watching the wrong show here 😕

@underline - what is there to wonder. Gaura never asked her to do that, so he didn't bring her home. Gaura wanted to use Durga to blackmail shravan. I don't think I need to put more brain on such simple thing.

Answer me why Durga was out for ten years? This is not such a simple thing. And the fact Dharam doesn't care if Durga was there or not, just shows he doesn't consider her as a wife.

That man never fall in love with his own child is now blindly in love is a joke.

That man loves his son more than that son deserves.

But if dharam cares about meera then he should let her go. Sign papers (it's not important coz that is an illegal marriage but sign it just for meera) and give her freedom. He can love her as daughter, niece, nephew if he just want to love her and there is no lust.

But I don't want Dharam to be such an angel. Of course he will I can tell cus this show is so bloody typical but I want Dharam to be selfish, to fight for his love.
Ew gross 😆 How can you even think of such a thing?! Dharam loves her as his better half, not as a daughter or niece. What the 🤣 To prove he has no lust, he doesn't have to love her like a daughter. You could have said he should love her like a friend but jumping from a wife to a daughter is a joke, now you're mocking the relationships 😆


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: xPalkix



Edited by White-Rose - 9 years ago

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Originally posted by: Maansexi

@sharoon

Again that's your prospective and I can't do much about it.

However you can not force a person to live with someone who he doesn't like, and yes I agree dhram should give divorce to Durga, which I am sure it will happen soon.

And for Durga not his wife or shvan not his son, knowing sns and the fan base dheera have, wait few months and we will see shift in storyline, I am sure all this is planned otherwise which cvs would middle such relationship up like this.

I am waiting for that



Yes, that is my perspective. How do you sat that Durga is not his wife? Even in today's episode Gaura taunted ViVan about not giving her a child despite loving each other deeply whereas Dharam & Durga brought Shravan in this world. As for divorce, he should have done that before marrying Meera. Not after marrying her.

I'm only saying that in whichever way he married Durga, they are man & wife. Whether he accepts her as a wife or not is irrelevant but in the eyes of the law, she is his wife. That is most important.

First Thing - Dharam married Meera without telling her about Durga. He only wanted to help his mom in taking revenge from the Modi family. He also wanted to take revenge from Meera for breaking his leg.

Second Thing - He manhandled Meera when they were newly married. He has also been mistreating his legally wedded wife.

Third thing - He was involved with Gaura in kidnapping Kokila & putting her inside the trunk. Also he tried to kill Ahem.

Fourth Thing - This marriage has muddled all the relationships. SIL is 1 or 2 years younger to FIL but elder to MIL. Should Meera's parents call him a samdhan or a damad?

Yes, Dharam might be trying to change himself but that background tune of his is still the same as his entry in the show. Before wooing a woman, any man would try to keep himself in her good books & win her confidence. Once they achieve this, he shows his true colors.

As for the twist, so many months have passed but there is no such indication till date. On the contrary, it is only giving the confirmation that Durga is his legal wife & Shravan his son. If that twist takes place, then I will see.

Edited by sharoon3210 - 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: xPalkix


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