Perfect Arguments - Page 2

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

For her , from her pov , its , u make a mistake , u coolly accept it and just leave ! And here ur again , this time with additional mistakes ! She is incensed and incredulous though many won't see her pov .

The problem with Koki is that she does not want to and will not ever see things from other's PoV unless it hits her right on her face.

While one can see why she is angry, her extremism and loudness sucks to put it lightly.😊

Originally posted by: suk19

👏 well done kools and justlikethat also everyone who has posted on this topic.

Hopefully long term will be Rashi changes for good no longer adding fuel to fire with gopi, i have a feeling even she realises without gopi modi bhavan is empty. we know she wanted it for selfish reasons. That is Rashi

I think the eye opener for Urmilla might be when Gopi rescues Rashi from a near death situation. i also think any kalakaris that urmilla n rashi do will be foiled by bacha party as they are very protective of gopi

Thanks Suk.😊
But I don't think Urmila will ever change. Gopi saved Rashi's life after Rashi got kidnapped. She put her own life in the line and yet Urmi would not give her credit for the same.

Urmila is a greedy woman whose greediness does not see rhyme or reason. She does not see it wrong to milk even her own daughter if it would benefit her. She actually wanted Rashi to be divorced so that she could have the alimony😲 So there is Urmi for you.. No amount of goodness will change her

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

think Kokila's change will come only with Meera coming back. I do not see her accepting Gopi as her bahurani before that. It is not just about walking out of the marriage Kools. I think Koki's resentment is far deeper. She genuinely blames Gopi for Meera and has never gotten out of that. She is vicious and will surely find ways to hurt.

Agreed but things would have been different if Gopi had stayed on . Koki would have stopped talking to her on a private level but walking out on the marraige , not informing them of a second kid AND the unfortunate death of the first grandshild has made her an embittered woman . As it is she has less patience with mistakes , these 3 in her eyes r unacceptable . I can understand where she comes from coz i actually know her type . She is one of those efficient people impatient with mistakes as they never do it themselves and value discipline as it sets things rolling smoothly ...she is bitterly angry with the walk out . For her , from her pov , its , u make a mistake , u coolly accept it and just leave ! And here ur again , this time with additional mistakes ! She is incensed and incredulous though many won't see her pov .

Originally posted by: angelic8219

Near the start of the marriage when ahem dropped gopi home ending their marriage, why was it ok then for koki but not when gopi choose to walk out of the marriage out of her own free will. I know she had additional issues loosing meera and keeping her pregnancy secret. Why was it ok for ahem to end it but not gopi?

Angelic, to be fair to Koki, she did not approve of that move from Ahem either and she found ways around it, harsh as it may have been..
Koki made Gopi take back her marriage vows but made sure that she remained at MM. It cost Gopi a lot of course, perhaps more than Koki would ever understand but I do not think Koki approved of Ahem sending Gopi home alone either.

BTW, Koki may not admit it, but her biggest mistake is that she has one set of rules of Ahem and another for everyone else, and this includes her own daughter Kinjal. Koki and Ahem have a unique relationship.

Koki really needs to get off her high horses and stop being a pain. What's this nonsense about live as a caretaker and not a Modi or cannot pray in the pray area and stuff. The extremes she goes through makes her a bipolar and needs some serious medication. Ahem needs to stop being a mommyman and grow his own brains for a change.

Near the start of the marriage when ahem dropped gopi home ending their marriage, why was it ok then for koki but not when gopi choose to walk out of the marriage out of her own free will. I know she had additional issues loosing meera and keeping her pregnancy secret. Why was it ok for ahem to end it but not gopi?

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

While one can see why she is angry, her extremism and loudness sucks to put it lightly.😊

They do that coz its a serial and drama brings in TRPs . But she is a unique character with not unjustified povs . Kokila is fascinating . A disillusioned and ambitious wife , a proud and devoted mother , a mother in law to fear but extremely protective if u get on her right side and a fantastic bahu herself , putting discipline and traditions ahead of herself even as it comprises of culture as a whole ...I think SNS will lose its charm if she is out .

I can give Koki a lot of credit😊 and believe me, I was and am an ardent fan of her character until the TRPs took over and she has been reduced to a screaming, immovable demon without empathy to the mother. I have defended Koki for a lot of her actions.. She is a very strong character and that is exactly why I do not want it ruined. Kokila is a unique saas in the history of Hindi serials, a saas who stood up for what was right and someone who was not grossly unfair to anyone even if the accused deserved none of her consideration.

See, what gets to me most is the fact that Koki had empathy towards even Urmila when Urmila accused her and ranted against her for Rashi's almost miscarriage. She explained to Ahem that a mother in Urmila should be excused because at the end of the day she loves her daughter dearly and hence was influenced to do things that may normally be incorrect.

If Urmila and later Rashi who outright accused Koki of being a murderess was forgiven even when they did not apologize, I am unable to believe why Gopi should not be given some courtesy, a benefit of doubt at least right now.

See, I don't expect Kokila to forgive and open her arms to Gopi just because she is now back and is trying to make something out of an impossible situation.

The fair Kokila I knew before this track would have been more human. If Radha could be forgiven for all her antics which includes almost causing a divorce, if Kokila could go to RN and bring Rashi back when she went away inspite what happened between her and Jigar, I think Gopi deserved atleast 10% of that consideration.

Why is it that Kokila could go find Rashi but would not even see beyond Gopi running away without informing anyone? Rashi did the same but Koki brought her back on her own volition. She convinced Rashi. Shouldn't Gopi have the same luxury? Why is she any lesser than Rashi? That is why I cannot convince myself that Kokila is justified in her behavior.

The fair Kokila I knew before this track would have been more human. If Radha could be forgiven for all her antics which includes almost causing a divorce, if Kokila could go to RN and bring Rashi back when she went away inspite what happened between her and Jigar, I think Gopi deserved atleast 10% of that consideration.

Why is it that Kokila could go find Rashi but would not even see beyond Gopi running away without informing anyone? Rashi did the same but Koki brought her back on her own volition. She convinced Rashi. Shouldn't Gopi have the same luxury? Why is she any lesser than Rashi? That is why I cannot convince myself that Kokila is justified in her behavior.