Koki - Gopi Relationship / Scene !!!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well we all know Goki's relationship is based on mutual love they have for one another but somewhere I found that as much as Gopi loves Koki deeply without any conditions maybe Koki does not extend that deep love towards Gopi !!!
Im not saying Koki does not love Gopi, she loves her & thats the reason she knew her DIL was worried for last few days & went to talk to her & calm her troubles unlike other MILs !!! But does she love her as her own daughter as much as Gopi loves Koki like her own mother !!! People might say Koki does not love Kinjle as much as she loves Gopi , I defer in this statement because will she put Kinjle the same pain which she is putting Gopi thru !!!
Today as I saw the scene between Koki & Gopi, I felt that Koki wanted to more share her reasons for the decision taken than find the reasons which were troubling her DILs mind & heart !!! I mean she wanted to tell her DIL that her son was right & in a way put it across to her that she should trust him !!! Well Gopi has been a witness to that scene instead of calming her troubled heart by making her understand & see the truth why thrust on her that this is the truth saying this is it what u have to believe !!! Koki's feels that upbringing is being questioned & she wants people around to believe in the truth rather than letting people come to the truth that Ahem can never do such a thing !!! Everyone who has lived with Ahem will know what kind of a person he is...so let them make a decision on what they want to believe of Ahem especially a wife !!!
Well Koki said maybe I should have asked you before making a decision of bringing Anitha home !!! I have made this decision on grounds of humanity & with Jayanthi bhai accusing of Anitha for no mistake of hers, I took the decision...well I want to ask you, when you could remember to tell Rashi to pack bags, Ahem to cancel the booking of the hotel how could you not think about your DIL?? You had seen the pain on her face when Ahem & Anitha were found in a room then how could you not remember that pain when the decision was made !!! You cared enough for Anitha because your son's character was also linked to it but you did not for a second care for your Gopi vahu's pain when she will see Anitha at your home after seeing her in her husband's arms during her wedding !!!
You say out of humanity you made this decision, I want to ask you instead of Ahem , your own daughter Kinjle is there & instead of Anitha, Umang is there , & in place of Gopi, Dhawal was there, would you still have bought Umang home if he were to break his hand or leg !!! Would you not care for your daugter's married life & her feelings?? Would you not care for Dhawal's opinion if he would be fine with getting Umang home & how it would effect your daughter's married life then why not think about Gopi & her feelings & the pain she is undergoing???
Assuming you do not know that Dhawal loves another girl & you had found Dhawal in a situationas of Ahem, would you still bring the other girl home knowing that your daughter had seen Dhawal & the other girl arm in arm & see her remembering everyday about the incident when she sees that girl !!! Well Im sure you would not so then why do you want Gopi to go thru it !!!
Well now you know Gopi knows the truth about Ahem's past then why are you still letting Anitha stay back...that means your word , your pride is more important than the feelings of your DIL ??? Cant you make alternative arrangements & plans for Anitha & move her out so that your DIL can have a peace!!! Well you may say having Anitha in front of my eyes will ensure there is nothing between her & my son...but have you realised that having her in front of your DIL eyes , she is feeling the pain of her husband's past & is insecure that her husband even cares for her !!!
Just my rant on what could have been such a deep beautiful scene between Koki & Gopi as a mother & daughter !!! All it showed was Gopi being a wonderful daughter who stood by her Maaji's decision & telling her how much she trusts her that she is sure her maaji will be there with her in all situations !!!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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spot on analysis, i feel the same way

I dont know what more to say, you said it all , thanks for this. . .




Edited by Vinder90 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Yep spt on navyab u said it all nothin to ad
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Wonderful analysis, Navyab👏. I haven't seen today's epi, but I can imagine what happened. There is no doubt Kokila loves Gopi, but when it comes to Ahemji and her pride, they take precedence.

I am copying and pasting a post I made in another thread here:
Before this track started, I would have thought Kokila will take Gopi's side over Ahemji not because she loves Gopi as her daughter (which she does btw), but because Gopi is her Ahemji's rightfully chosen true saathiya. This is all for Ahemji. Kokila brought Gopi as her dil to MM for Ahemji, Kokila supported and loved Gopi for Ahemji, and Kokila made Ahemji accept Gopi for Ahemji.

In the current track, everything has gone topsy turvy. The characters that you could count on are not for you there any more. So if Kokila thinks it has to be done, she wouldn't hesitate to sacrifice Gopi for Ahemji. She created what Gopi is today for her son's sake and sadly, for the same reason, she can destroy her beautiful creation Gopi in a second.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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👏👏👏 Awesome Navya. Absolutely awesome and truthful. Hats off to you.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I have yet to watch the scene Navya...but as usual I enjoy your analysis...😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
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You know Navya.. I do not agree.. Not because I am an ardent Koki fan.. No.. But because I see the flaw as well as the goodness in both Koki and Gopi in this scenario.. So bear with me...

Your argument that Koki just told Gopi about why she made that decision and not asking about what Gopi felt.. Navya, I can ask the same question of Gopi... If Gopi considers Koki her true mother, she would have asked her why Koki did not tell her or ask her about the decision made.. She will question her mother and ask for answers.. But she did not.. You will say she did it as a dutiful DIL. I say yes.. But not as the daughter she is for Koki.. Does that mean that Gopi does not consider Koki her mother? No..

Every individual has a way to love.. Koki's and Gopi's love as mother and daughter may not be what you expect but it is very beautiful.

It is not Gopi's nature to question and it is not Koki's nature to ask other's for their feelings. She expects them to say what they feel. She did the same with Hetal in the previous track..

It is how both have been brought up and conditioned.. Gopi preempted Koki from assuring Gopi about Ahem because Gopi said she believes in Ahem.. Actually she knows more about what Ahem is doing than Koki herself does now.
A mother -daughter relationship is not always one where the mother questions the daughter for her feelings and comforts her..It does not always help. It is one where even without the words the mother understands her daughter and stands by her.. Koki thinks that Gopi needs assurances, not questions on her fears, not right now.
For a girl who had no one to lean on, the assurance and the promise that there is this one person who will stand by her all the time is of the greatest comfort.. Gopi does not need a Koki who gleans out her fears at this time. She needs a mother who tells her that everything will be alright.. Even if Gopi had told her the fear that Ahem does not love her, there is nothing Koki can do... But the assurance that everything will be alright goes a long way.. Gopi is very private about her feelings especially when it comes to Ahem. So she would have felt uncomfortable if Koki had asked her anything else.
Gopi does not need any other comfort. She currently does not need Koki trying to question her on her feelings.. Just my PoV.. 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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great analysis as usual navya
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: aris22l

Wonderful analysis, Navyab👏. I haven't seen today's epi, but I can imagine what happened. There is no doubt Kokila loves Gopi, but when it comes to Ahemji and her pride, they take precedence.

I am copying and pasting a post I made in another thread here:
Before this track started, I would have thought Kokila will take Gopi's side over Ahemji not because she loves Gopi as her daughter (which she does btw), but because Gopi is her Ahemji's rightfully chosen true saathiya. This is all for Ahemji. Kokila brought Gopi as her dil to MM for Ahemji, Kokila supported and loved Gopi for Ahemji, and Kokila made Ahemji accept Gopi for Ahemji.

In the current track, everything has gone topsy turvy. The characters that you could count on are not for you there any more. So if Kokila thinks it has to be done, she wouldn't hesitate to sacrifice Gopi for Ahemji. She created what Gopi is today for her son's sake and sadly, for the same reason, she can destroy her beautiful creation Gopi in a second.

Well aris...though my point is Kokilla does not love Gopi as her own daughter because if she did, she would have thought about her before anything else but it is also clear she loves & cares for Gopi...yes everything related to Ahem & her pride take precedence but she cannot destroy the relationship of marriage just like that !!!
Kokilla understands the importance of marriage & knows her role in her sons's marriage stops when she gives them advise after that she always left it to Ahem & Gopi to make a choice !!! Kokilla knows Gopi as a human being with feelings & hence she was concerned about how her DIL was taking everything & I do not support that she will destroy this marriage relationship for her word, yes at times she forgets that other people are involved & their feelings are also to be considered but she does not have negative feelings towards others !!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Justlikethat1

You know Navya.. I do not agree.. Not because I am an ardent Koki fan.. No.. But because I see the flaw as well as the goodness in both Koki and Gopi in this scenario.. So bear with me...


Your argument that Koki just told Gopi about why she made that decision and not asking about what Gopi felt.. Navya, I can ask the same question of Gopi... If Gopi considers Koki her true mother, she would have asked her why Koki did not tell her or ask her about the decision made.. She will question her mother and ask for answers.. But she did not.. You will say she did it as a dutiful DIL. I say yes.. But not as the daughter she is for Koki.. Does that mean that Gopi does not consider Koki her mother? No..

Every individual has a way to love.. Koki's and Gopi's love as mother and daughter may not be what you expect but it is very beautiful.

It is not Gopi's nature to question and it is not Koki's nature to ask other's for their feelings. She expects them to say what they feel. She did the same with Hetal in the previous track..

It is how both have been brought up and conditioned.. Gopi preempted Koki from assuring Gopi about Ahem because Gopi said she believes in Ahem.. Actually she knows more about what Ahem is doing than Koki herself does now.
A mother -daughter relationship is not always one where the mother questions the daughter for her feelings and comforts her..It does not always help. It is one where even without the words the mother understands her daughter and stands by her.. Koki thinks that Gopi needs assurances, not questions on her fears, not right now.
For a girl who had no one to lean on, the assurance and the promise that there is this one person who will stand by her all the time is of the greatest comfort.. Gopi does not need a Koki who gleans out her fears at this time. She needs a mother who tells her that everything will be alright.. Even if Gopi had told her the fear that Ahem does not love her, there is nothing Koki can do... But the assurance that everything will be alright goes a long way.. Gopi is very private about her feelings especially when it comes to Ahem. So she would have felt uncomfortable if Koki had asked her anything else.
Gopi does not need any other comfort. She currently does not need Koki trying to question her on her feelings.. Just my PoV.. 😊

Well we know Gopi never had mother's love all thru her life to know that she can share all her feelings without doubt with her Harini...when Kokilla accepted her as more than a DIL it was her responsibility to teach her daughter to show her daughter that she is there for her in all situations !!!! as much as she can punish her for her mistakes similarly at times of insecurity she shuld build the trust that as a mother, Im always there for you whatever you may think or do !!! This trust always comes from the mother to help her daughter to share all feeling...let be anything even her insecurities !!!!
Well if the doctor does not know the ailment what is the assurance that your health is going to be fine do !!! yes momentory the patient thinks everything is fine but the fact if the doctor does not probe you on your symptoms which are not always physical, then how confident are you going to be that the doctor will actual know all your problems & give you correct medication that will heal you !!! similarly the assurance from Koki may momentarily heal Gopi of her pain that she is there for her but if Koki does not know what is the actual problem that is eating her DIL how will she even know what she needs to do !!!! And every patient unless probed deeply you will not know all the symptoms so the same unless Koki gets into the depth of Gopi's heart she will not know what thought is actually taking form in her mind !!! And another question if the roles were reversed of Ahem & Gopi...or it was kinjle in Gopi's place, will Koki still take the same decision !!!!

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