Abortion is a sin? - Page 2

Originally posted by: Laila2009

Thank you so much for helping me with this information. In the US Christian fundamentalists like Sarah Palin are against abortion even if your child will not be normal.

Originally posted by: saomom

Wow. I was going to stay out of this discussion until this statement popped up.

That's a pretty broad brush stroke you are taking, along with a lot of assumptions. Pretty thin ice.

Besides that, who is to determine what is 'normal' or not? What 'handicaps' are okay and which are not? Are you telling me that my friend David, who brings incredible joy and happiness to every one he meets, should have been aborted because he has Downs Syndrome? Are you telling me that my friend Evan who has a terrible arthritic condition and can hardly walk should been aborted even though, like David, he is a bright spot to those who know him? And what about children who are injured and rendered 'handicapped'? Kill them before they become a burden on society? Andrea Bocelli went blind at 12. Can you imagine this world not being blessed by his incredible voice?

Have you ever stopped to consider the blessing of a 'not so normal' child can be?

Uff. "Normal".

I'm done. I will comment no further.

Originally posted by: Laila2009

Pro-life arguements for a fan of Sarah Palin. I've hard them all before. So here are some home truths. The fact is a fact, they are not "normal" physically as they are missing the necessary things required to LIVE a normal life. Facts are facts. Learn to live with them. And exactly who is going to look after these handicapped kids that are brought into this world? YOU, the government of India? Even the government of the US and UK can't afford it. So get real.

Originally posted by: upasana.diya

i find it totally hilarious that we are fighting on something said in entertainment industry.... please abide by the disclaimer before watching any serial.... even the makers are saying that these are not facts, so why are you debating it...

many facts have been changed during the course of time to suit the circumstances of that time and era... one such is sati pratha... which wasn't advocated in Vedic India but was prevalent during Mughal times, when ladies couldn't protect themselves..., but is still prevalent as if God has ordained it...

its a sin on humanitarian and ethical grounds, with exceptions. during wars and such, weakest person is treated in the most cruel way... those are exceptions in which it might not be a sin... but if such rules weren't there and there was no conscience... people would have had loose morals by now, because they think that they can do anything... would you want to live in such a world??? i would abhor such a world

Originally posted by: soapbubble

Just wanted to elaborate a bit:
One, by all means let's be pro choice. Not everyone is the same and everyone must make their own personal choices on what they want their lives to be like and what they're willing to compromise on.

If a woman gets accidentally pregnant and doesn't want a baby cluttering her life, that's up to her.
Ditto for situations where the mother's life is threatened, or the baby's health is suspect.

But irrespective of where you're coming from (religion, ethics, humanitarian or societal values), irrespective of what you call it (sin, crime, paap, considered decision) the fact is you're snuffing out a life, deliberately. My point is: the issue is too big to be subject to 'old-fashioned' or 'orthodox' vs 'modern' thinking. Let's not demand that everyone be cool with it so that we can go easy on our collective consciences.

Sometimes tough things have to be done but let's not start ratifying it.
Bubble

Originally posted by: Jake-neil

i think it was not a "pro-life sarah palin" fan talking but just a woman who is against the idea of killing "not so normal" children. And i think you shld respect that. Every religion is against the idea of abortion. Why? There must be a reason. There must also be a reason why children are born physically or mentally challenged. We need to find "that" reason first coz then u will knw that it is not the fault of the kid but the parents.
And why cant a mother look after her child? Why depend on govt? Disabled children are considered as burden and you abandon them. Which itself shows how shallow people are.
I thnk this topic shld be taken to "debate mansion" and not discussed on saathiya forum. As far as saathiya is concerned Gopi was just being a gud human who value "human" rights.
PS : We dont knw what our future holds for us. Any moment even the most "normal" person may become "abnormal". And trust me when i say "any moment". Its just a matter of fate. They say "think lyk a human, be human". And a human have certain "karma" to do..

Originally posted by: Laila2009

Pro-life arguements for a fan of Sarah Palin. I've hard them all before. So here are some home truths. The fact is a fact, they are not "normal" physically as they are missing the necessary things required to LIVE a normal life. Facts are facts. Learn to live with them. And exactly who is going to look after these handicapped kids that are brought into this world? YOU, the government of India? Even the government of the US and UK can't afford it. So get real.