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Repentance is sometimes misunderstood as being fulfilled by words of contrition. Words of contrition are indeed significant when they reflect a fresh inner realization that a particular course of action was wrong, and when they are accompanied by a sincere vow not to repeat the sin. But that is only the first stage of repentance. The second stage, one far more efficacious, is to confess the sin to others, particularly a confession to the person who had been wronged. The humiliation and shame which accompanies confessing one's sin to another makes such repentance extremely serious, and laying one's sins out in the open is a powerful cathartic. The third stage of repentance is to make some substantial compensation for the past misdeed. This means to do penance or to make restitution to the person who had been wronged, or, if that is not possible, to someone else representing that person. Finally, repentance should result in an actual change of direction in the life of the penitent, as he endeavors to perform good deeds and eschew his former transgressions.

http://www.unification.net/ws/theme127.htm

In the recent storyline we have two individuals who appeared to be repentant and were given opportunities to make restitution. The nurse, who switched the babies, cried and begged NS for forgiveness and through circumstances was given an opportunity to make restitution – to correct the wrong she had done. She could have taken the baby to the police or contacted Saloni. But, instead she used the opportunity for her own selfish reasons. End result she was outsmarted by Jiji resulting in her death (similar to Kakisa trying to outsmart Jiji when she could have return the child to Tara).

Jiji in the recent encounter begged for forgiveness and was planning on doing repentance in an Ashram. She was forgiven because who can really tell what's in a person mind. She didn't deserve it but she played on Amrit's forgiving nature. She was given two opportunities to make retribution. She found Sawri and instead of returning the baby – kidnapped the baby. However, she was instrumental in dispensing justice to the nurse. She also gained the knowledge of Sawri parentage and instead of using it in a positive manner she is planning to utilize it for her own good. In her former encounters I don't believe she ever asked for forgiveness or made anyone believe she was repentent. Is justice about to be served?

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Posted: 16 years ago
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very well analysed with good examples
those are few things we all know but are not able to accpet
thanks for sharing the good thoughts and also giving good examples to analyse it
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I must say judy ur posts r always very thought provoking .
Repentance is independent of being forgiven by the person one has wronged . It is an inner spiritual struggle and the first step in spiritual development .
However when Jijis character comes to my mind , I wonder which old saying is applicable to Jiji . The age old saying that a person never changes and carries his inborn nature to his funeral pyre , or the belief that in life at some point a person does start changing .
She touched Brijeshs head and said that the only thing that matters to me is Brijesh and on his head I wudnt lie . I havent done anything to Sawri when Ishaan had left her outside . Is that her grey spot , that will change her in future ? Coz everything that Jiji does and will do is not for the money alone .......it is only for Brijesh . Her marraige with Kakasa , even her hatred for Saloni is coz Saloni stood in her way of her marraige with Brijesh .
Although i do not believe she ever really repented , i do wonder if Brijesh , her weak point will cause this real change in her in future . Not Tara , not her own child , not Saloni .......just her need of Brijesh.
Her obsession with Brijesh is rather fascinating really . It shows passion in a woman for a man , something that sadly lacks in Saloni's love for Nahar as a woman . One can hardly describe Saloni as a passionate lover [ She is constantly passionate about other causes and has no time to be a lover .]
Still , I watch the episodes very irregularly now [ i watch Betiyaan more ] so if I have made a mistake in interpreting some scenes i saw , do understand .
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Judyp>Very pensive and well written post👏. While its true that realising that a wrong has been done is primary step to penitence and shd ideally be followed by not repeating the sin. But sometimes the sin committed is irrevocable and nothing abates it. These lines say it all"repentance should result in an actual change of direction in the life of the penitent, as he endeavors to perform good deeds and eschew his former transgressions."
The nurse did have chances one when she was confronted by NS after Kali revealed the truth. But she let it go as these are repeat crimes becoz she never accepted the wrong she committed as there was no repentance. The nurse was greedy and opportunist, she had no enmity with Sal. Now being killed by Urv can be said to be "Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap". Kakisa too falls in the same category.
Urvashi has this obsession and claim over Brijesh and Aditya that supercedes all goodness. She thrives on this game to win them over by hook or crook. She discounts all righteousness and ethics and only believes in owning what she feels is her's. She never truly regreted her sins and with every loss she demonises and disdains Sal. Why Amrit believed her remains to be seen as I suspect he is Nah.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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owkie, here am i!
my two cents about this:
you're so right Judy, your posts are so good! 😃
Urvashi got 2 (3? correct me if i'm wrong) chances.
she never tried to do something .. to prove that she really wants to change.
and wht i also don't really understand, why do we (human) keep forgiving?
i'm sorry, but i can't be so dariya dil.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I sometimes feel forgiveness is not really about the individual we are forgiving but it's about the individual that was wronged. All the literature talks about freeing yourself from the bondage of hatred/hold the individuals have on you.

Forgiving a wrongdoer is difficult because we feel that we are letting the wrongdoer off the hook. A victim tends to think, "How can I ever forgive someone who has hurt me so much." Forgiving does not equal letting someone off the hook. Forgiveness doesn't mean that you have to condone what someone has done to you or ever having to tolerate someone's wrongful behavior.

It is possible to forgive someone and still call the police if he or she has broken the law. This might well be an act of kindness on your part. For the sake of their own growth, wrongdoers should face the consequences of their actions. Otherwise, how would they ever learn and grow to be better persons?

Forgiveness is not about setting conditions with all those "ifs" and "buts," it's unconditional. By setting conditions, we give power to our tormentors. When we leave that power with them, they can hurt us again. Forgiveness is really about empowering yourself and taking back the control of your life in your own hands.

Also I remember this story from School - a bible story

The king wanted to collect all the money that his servants owed him. So he began to do this. Then they brought a man to him who owed him millions of silver coins. The man was not able to pay. So the master ordered them to sell the man, his wife, his children and all his possessions. The master would receive that money to pay the servant's debt. Then the servant kneeled in front of the king. "Be patient with me", he said. "I will pay back everything that I owe you." And the master pitied him. So he forgave the servant for all that he owed. And he let the servant leave free.

That servant went out then. But he found one of the other servants who owed him just a few silver coins. The first servant held the second servant firmly. He began to squeeze the second servant's neck. "Pay back what you owe me!" he demanded.

The second servant kneeled down in front of him. "Be patient with me and I will pay you back", he said.

But the first servant refused. Instead, he caused the authorities to throw the other servant into prison. And he had to stay there until he could pay back the debt. The rest of the servants saw what had happened. And they were very upset about it. So they told their master everything that had happened.

Then the master called the first servant to come back to him. "You wicked servant", he said, "I forgave all your debt to me because you asked me to. You should have pitied the other servant, just as I pitied you!" His master was very angry. So he handed the servant over to the prison officers for punishment. He must stay in prison until he paid everything back to his master.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Judyp you write very well.love to read ur posts.Keep posting.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: judyp

Repentance is sometimes misunderstood as being fulfilled by words of contrition. Words of contrition are indeed significant when they reflect a fresh inner realization that a particular course of action was wrong, and when they are accompanied by a sincere vow not to repeat the sin. But that is only the first stage of repentance. The second stage, one far more efficacious, is to confess the sin to others, particularly a confession to the person who had been wronged. The humiliation and shame which accompanies confessing one's sin to another makes such repentance extremely serious, and laying one's sins out in the open is a powerful cathartic. The third stage of repentance is to make some substantial compensation for the past misdeed. This means to do penance or to make restitution to the person who had been wronged, or, if that is not possible, to someone else representing that person. Finally, repentance should result in an actual change of direction in the life of the penitent, as he endeavors to perform good deeds and eschew his former transgressions.

http://www.unification.net/ws/theme127.htm

In the recent storyline we have two individuals who appeared to be repentant and were given opportunities to make restitution. The nurse, who switched the babies, cried and begged NS for forgiveness and through circumstances was given an opportunity to make restitution ' to correct the wrong she had done. She could have taken the baby to the police or contacted Saloni. But, instead she used the opportunity for her own selfish reasons. End result she was outsmarted by Jiji resulting in her death (similar to Kakisa trying to outsmart Jiji when she could have return the child to Tara).

Jiji in the recent encounter begged for forgiveness and was planning on doing repentance in an Ashram. She was forgiven because who can really tell what's in a person mind. She didn't deserve it but she played on Amrit's forgiving nature. She was given two opportunities to make retribution. She found Sawri and instead of returning the baby ' kidnapped the baby. However, she was instrumental in dispensing justice to the nurse. She also gained the knowledge of Sawri parentage and instead of using it in a positive manner she is planning to utilize it for her own good. In her former encounters I don't believe she ever asked for forgiveness or made anyone believe she was repentent. Is justice about to be served?



very well said... If the SP team reads post...I doubt if they even understand it...


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