One Hit Wonder - Mauli Dave- well said HR - Page 3

Originally posted by: juhi1

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But unlike Mouli these pple are very Knowledgeable in sur/tal you see. They know very well how to sing, others and their own composition without going out of tune😉. So your comparison of her with musical genius such as Adnan Sami and cult-singer Himmesh reshasmiya does not appear valid to me! Sorry if I have disheartened you by my brutal truth, I am just stating a very unfortunate fact about Mauli's singing capabilities😳.

As for the knowledge no one knows better than me how much music mauli knows. I have heard her at least few 100 times and listening to her since she is very young. her entire family is dedicated to music including her paretts grand parents. her aunts uncles and even cousins. It is like family tradtion they are either singing or playing music. her dad and her aunt was even akashvani radio artists in India. Mauli too sang in children's program in akasvani several times. I don't think they will allow to sing any one has no knowledge of sur taal.

Also she was selected from entire US contestants and trust me we have good talented singer in houston alone and I am not talking about entire US.

I don't think Bhappida would have selected if he even for a second thought she has no knowledge of sur taal. So let us just wait and see what happens next.

Originally posted by: live_life

i agree...she didn't sing good songs after mayya mayya n rasiya.lets admit it...her worst performances outweighs her good performances which is only two...i strictly believe she should have been out instead of apurva...common we can't lose talented contestants like this

Originally posted by: bluemangos

this is like never ending topic.. but hey if there are people like mauli so be it, they have their opinions.. i mean come on, people like raja amanat sumeedha mussarat that sing well each week should not win but mauli should win because her first preformance was a hit and after that it hant been too good. and we should also vote for mauli because she has received the least marks from the mentors, and so we should vote for her so a singer that has sung better than her can be voted out. its very fair and does justice to everybody, and as for the singers that have sung better all i can say is, tough luck even though you have delivered better preformances you still gotta go cuz mauli has sung well in her FIRST preformance thats it.

srsly.. lets vote with a bit of common sense

love your post... keep it going..

Originally posted by: ramas

you are comparing the seasoned singers with mauli here. Mauli is starting out in music world. I was trying to say that singers who are singing differently too have place in music industry. Let me give you one example when I heard shreya ghosal's song from devdas first few times I did not liked them at all and now she is my fav. singer.

As for the knowledge no one knows better than me how much music mauli knows. I have heard her at least few 100 times and listening to her since she is very young. her entire family is dedicated to music including her paretts grand parents. her aunts uncles and even cousins. It is like family tradtion they are either singing or playing music. her dad and her aunt was even akashvani radio artists in India. Mauli too sang in children's program in akasvani several times. I don't think they will allow to sing any one has no knowledge of sur taal.

Also she was selected from entire US contestants and trust me we have good talented singer in houston alone and I am not talking about entire US.

I don't think Bhappida would have selected if he even for a second thought she has no knowledge of sur taal. So let us just wait and see what happens next.

Ramas my dear, you have clearly moved away from my question by stating Mauli's musical history of her family and their various achievements. As a viewer I am really truly not interested in any participant's personal achievements or their family tradition regarding music. It has never been my concern! Since it is a signing contest I am only concern with how she adapts her composition in the show not what she or her musical family did in huston. We are not here to judge her life achievements, you see. So please keep her personal information to your-self dear. Now lets talk about what I was emphasising in my last post that's her 'pakad' (understanding of sur/laya/tal to adapt a song to its required composition). To tell you the truth my dear her cattacha pakad was evident in every single round from her 2^nd performance until now. Why do you think this has happen! May be I could help you finding the answer with my knowledge of classical music!

Since you were unable to recognise the real issue from my previous post and I have a feeling that you might bring back the unnecessary family tradition and training information as an explanation. Why this information is unnecessary? Let me explain that with a simple example so you don't move away from the real issue next time😉! The example is I am studying to be a lawyer and up until now I have done brilliantly academically but in future if I fight a case with a weak argument my academic achievements surely won't help me wining the case. the judges wouldn't really care what kind of degree i have got. What would really come to rescue, is my skill and ability to use my academic knowledge for a right purpose at a right time. This ability is my dear, called talent. From my recent work experience I have learned that this talent could also shine out in person who may not have done very well academically and this people are practically blessed. When a highly academically qualified individual fails to put their knowledge into practice reflects their weakness in the understanding of the subject and also the fact that they memorised word to word and page to page like a parrot without understanding their real uses. Thus they do brilliantly when it comes to giving the perfect answer during the exam but in practical situations they get beaten by this single drawback.

Similarly when an aspiring singer learns everything about music without understanding their proper use she/he deliberately fails to pick up (pakad) new songs. And so far the disastrous 'pakad' of her last 6 songs shows, Mauli may have been memorising the big fat book of music since her childhood with the help of her big musical family, but did not understand its adoptation rules. I am really shocked and surprised to know that even after growing up in such a musical environment and learning music for so many years Mauli has so little sense of 'pakad'! Her signing did not deprived from encouragement, inspiration or training so why is she finding it so difficult to sing in tune? Clearly there could be one more thing missing that is talent, which singers like sunidhi chuhan has! Sunidhi is a true example of musical talent as she has such a good sense of 'pakad' that even without having any musical background or training she picks up different genre of songs (such as sweet romantic number 'Dekho na' from fanna, semi-punjabi folk 'meethi meethi basta' from apki khatir, disco-track akhiya na maar and then semi-classical 'more piya' from Ustad and the divas) with great comfort. Whereas so called talented and highly trained Ms. Dave is deliberately distorting every composition in an attempt to sing and she could no way sing with Sunidhi's high range. Same examples can be given for adnan. So plz stop comparing her with sunidhi or adnan sami as you have no idea what kind of range and pakad they have!😳

Originally posted by: juhi1

Ramas my dear, you have clearly moved away from my question by stating Mauli's musical history of her family and their various achievements. As a viewer I am really truly not interested in any participant's personal achievements or their family tradition regarding music. It has never been my concern! Since it is a signing contest I am only concern with how she adapts her composition in the show not what she or her musical family did in huston. We are not here to judge her life achievements, you see. So please keep her personal information to your-self dear. Now lets talk about what I was emphasising in my last post that's her 'pakad' (understanding of sur/laya/tal to adapt a song to its required composition). To tell you the truth my dear her cattacha pakad was evident in every single round from her 2^nd performance until now. Why do you think this has happen! May be I could help you finding the answer with my knowledge of classical music!

Since you were unable to recognise the real issue from my previous post and I have a feeling that you might bring back the unnecessary family tradition and training information as an explanation. Why this information is unnecessary? Let me explain that with a simple example so you don't move away from the real issue next time😉! The example is I am studying to be a lawyer and up until now I have done brilliantly academically but in future if I fight a case with a weak argument my academic achievements surely won't help me wining the case. the judges wouldn't really care what kind of degree i have got. What would really come to rescue, is my skill and ability to use my academic knowledge for a right purpose at a right time. This ability is my dear, called talent. From my recent work experience I have learned that this talent could also shine out in person who may not have done very well academically and this people are practically blessed. When a highly academically qualified individual fails to put their knowledge into practice reflects their weakness in the understanding of the subject and also the fact that they memorised word to word and page to page like a parrot without understanding their real uses. Thus they do brilliantly when it comes to giving the perfect answer during the exam but in practical situations they get beaten by this single drawback.

Similarly when an aspiring singer learns everything about music without understanding their proper use she/he deliberately fails to pick up (pakad) new songs. And so far the disastrous 'pakad' of her last 6 songs shows, Mauli may have been memorising the big fat book of music since her childhood with the help of her big musical family, but did not understand its adoptation rules. I am really shocked and surprised to know that even after growing up in such a musical environment and learning music for so many years Mauli has so little sense of 'pakad'! Her signing did not deprived from encouragement, inspiration or training so why is she finding it so difficult to sing in tune? Clearly there could be one more thing missing that is talent, which singers like sunidhi chuhan has! Sunidhi is a true example of musical talent as she has such a good sense of 'pakad' that even without having any musical background or training she picks up different genre of songs (such as sweet romantic number 'Dekho na' from fanna, semi-punjabi folk 'meethi meethi basta' from apki khatir, disco-track akhiya na maar and then semi-classical 'more piya' from Ustad and the divas) with great comfort. Whereas so called talented and highly trained Ms. Dave is deliberately distorting every composition in an attempt to sing and she could no way sing with Sunidhi's high range. Same examples can be given for adnan. So plz stop comparing her with sunidhi or adnan sami as you have no idea what kind of range and pakad they have!😳

Originally posted by: juhi1

Ramas my dear, you have clearly moved away from my question by stating Mauli's musical history of her family and their various achievements. As a viewer I am really truly not interested in any participant's personal achievements or their family tradition regarding music. It has never been my concern! Since it is a signing contest I am only concern with how she adapts her composition in the show not what she or her musical family did in huston. We are not here to judge her life achievements, you see. So please keep her personal information to your-self dear. Now lets talk about what I was emphasising in my last post that's her 'pakad' (understanding of sur/laya/tal to adapt a song to its required composition). To tell you the truth my dear her cattacha pakad was evident in every single round from her 2^nd performance until now. Why do you think this has happen! May be I could help you finding the answer with my knowledge of classical music!

Since you were unable to recognise the real issue from my previous post and I have a feeling that you might bring back the unnecessary family tradition and training information as an explanation. Why this information is unnecessary? Let me explain that with a simple example so you don't move away from the real issue next time😉! The example is I am studying to be a lawyer and up until now I have done brilliantly academically but in future if I fight a case with a weak argument my academic achievements surely won't help me wining the case. the judges wouldn't really care what kind of degree i have got. What would really come to rescue, is my skill and ability to use my academic knowledge for a right purpose at a right time. This ability is my dear, called talent. From my recent work experience I have learned that this talent could also shine out in person who may not have done very well academically and this people are practically blessed. When a highly academically qualified individual fails to put their knowledge into practice reflects their weakness in the understanding of the subject and also the fact that they memorised word to word and page to page like a parrot without understanding their real uses. Thus they do brilliantly when it comes to giving the perfect answer during the exam but in practical situations they get beaten by this single drawback.

Similarly when an aspiring singer learns everything about music without understanding their proper use she/he deliberately fails to pick up (pakad) new songs. And so far the disastrous 'pakad' of her last 6 songs shows, Mauli may have been memorising the big fat book of music since her childhood with the help of her big musical family, but did not understand its adoptation rules. I am really shocked and surprised to know that even after growing up in such a musical environment and learning music for so many years Mauli has so little sense of 'pakad'! Her signing did not deprived from encouragement, inspiration or training so why is she finding it so difficult to sing in tune? Clearly there could be one more thing missing that is talent, which singers like sunidhi chuhan has! Sunidhi is a true example of musical talent as she has such a good sense of 'pakad' that even without having any musical background or training she picks up different genre of songs (such as sweet romantic number 'Dekho na' from fanna, semi-punjabi folk 'meethi meethi basta' from apki khatir, disco-track akhiya na maar and then semi-classical 'more piya' from Ustad and the divas) with great comfort. Whereas so called talented and highly trained Ms. Dave is deliberately distorting every composition in an attempt to sing and she could no way sing with Sunidhi's high range. Same examples can be given for adnan. So plz stop comparing her with sunidhi or adnan sami as you have no idea what kind of range and pakad they have!😳

Originally posted by: vichanakya

I think it is the fault of the music directors of saregamap or mentors especially Bappi lahari that poor Mauli has to go through all this humiliation. If Bappi lahari was incapable of grooming Mauli's singing talent the least he could have helped her get a good music teacher in India. If Bappi lahari gets all the praise for introducing Mauli when she sang Mayya mayya, he should also take the flak for her mediocre singing subsequently.

Originally posted by: gopalbhai

Actually even Mayya Mayya was tapped by Hiemesh Ji not Bappi Da. I think she should have been either Hit It or Yalgar gharana. They really know how to develope and extract singer's strong points. She sings full throated, she can be utilized in a much better way.