Guru Music Review - First Hearing

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Disclaimer: I have a very rudimentary understanding of music and am certainly ignorant of all technical aspects. This is just a reflection of what I hear as I go through AR Rahman's latest work. Feel free to correct me, add information and discuss the work at whatever level you are comfortable at.

Barso Re
This song had a very rustic and south indian feel to it initially. A lot of traditional instruments were used, maintaining the village feel throughout. A bit Saathiya meets Bombay meets Rangeela (kind of meets Lagaan) but in its own unique way. Very danceable to.

Tere Bina
Very reminescent of Saathiya's "Mera Yaar" or "Naina Milaike" with some reflection of Yuva as well. Again a south indian influence in the song, with emphasis on the classical feel. Was that a guitar I heard being used?

Ek Lo Ek Muft
Bappida in this one... interesting choice. After having heard him throughout L'il Champs...I don't think I'll ever forget his voice! I'm not sure he was the right choice after all. I am aware ARR wanted ABjr to sing it originally but timing didn't work out. It will be interesting to see the picturization of this song especially. It's very simplistic and village-like. I am guessing AB is drunk in this sequence...

Mayya
A very interesting infusion of Indian, Persian/Turkish and Arabic music. I am rather disappointed. There were two, blatant lifts of work from Asoka. There were also hints of his work from Saathiya and Dil Se. Good use of the orchestra (violins right?) All together however, it felt like a bit too much. Overall this song was not of the ARR standard I've been used to.

Ay Hairathe
Well sung by Hariharan. A decent job by Alka Yagnik as well. Again, a fusion of the east and west (a Scottish or Irish influence this time I believe). Overally a very bland composition...nothing to get excited over. It is also not bad. Very soothing melody..something you could put on for mellow listening (wine anyone? ).

Bazi Laga
Catchy enough tune...but nothing spectacular again. Well composed. Udit Narayan's voice had me picturizing SRK; it just doesn't suit ABjr. Somehow when he and Madhushree (I believe, there were 3 female singers) sang...I kept thinking of One 2 Ka 4. It's got a slight latin flavor thrown in. I'm hoping with time and increased exposure, I'll grow to this song. I have a feeling that won't happen though.

Jaage Hain
A slow lilting composition heavily favoring a traditional western orchestra. Worth listening to for Rahman's voice - it's got a rather haunting quality. The orchestra is a bit overpowering at points, nearly drowning out the vocals. Reminds me of "Hey ram ye kya kar daala"... what is that song from? Another wine song.

Final Notes:
Strong consideration was given to the lyrics of the music, as is typical of ARR's work.
There were several different styles of music used throughout. Makes me wonder about the movie. Do the styles correspond to the scenes and theme of the movie, or are they on a tangent in places. Mayya certainly seems to be a black sheep.
It would have helped if I'd gone in with some background knowledge of the theme of this movie. As it is, my comments are based solely on the music I heard. I probably missed out on a lot (culturally) because I didn't know what the movie was about (okay still don't :D).

My favorite would be Barso Re. It was the most original, pleasing to the ear and well composed throughout.

A 3.5 out of 5 for ARR this time around. I was frankly very disappointed in noticing just how much of his work in this album was "inspired" (mostly to a haunting quality extent) regardless that much of it was from his own work.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Interesting Analysis!

Lemme clarify one thing about these lifts in Mayya as you said.The song is programmed by Ranjit Barot who also programmed Asoka,so he's used some sounds here.
Not ARR's fault.I think Rehman didn't knw about this or this wouldn't have happened.

Strange that every song reminded you of earlier works,Didn't happen wid me 😛
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Thanks for sharing Arun. Info I, obviously, did not know.
It did seem rather atypical of ARR.

And yes...a bit strange. Then again, I'm rather fond of his work and have listened to his compositions, especially from Saathiya, Lagaan, Dil Se, Rangeela and Bombay exhaustively. They are merely slight nuances, his signatures if you will, that I've learned to recognizes. Truth be told...even I wasn't aware until I wrote this "analysis" 😆 The things you pick up on.😉

"Hai ram.." is actually Rajesh Roshan's work, from the movie "Na Tum Jaano Na Hum."

I'm either picking up on rather faint traces of these older songs...or I'm over-analyzing. 😃
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Hey hey! To be fair..neither "Ek Lo Ek Muft" nor "Ay Hairathe" reminded me of earlier works either. 😛
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Simtara ji, thanks for coming up with your thought. Very interesting.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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There are a number of songs in 'Guru' Here is 3 song that I am enjoying listening to it. Rahman sahab have composed Guru with keeping few factor in his mind with several different styles of music used throughout the Album.

We will not be able to compare one song to the other but it is still a choice of individual listener.
My choices are as follows.

1. Tere Bina that Rahman Shab shows his wizardry. A highly addictive song with influences of Sufi Qawwalis and added the Indian classical, the song is a just simply wonderful more I listen to it I think of Kailash Kher he could be a better choice for that song. Whenever A R Rahman sings, the song becomes special. Rahman Sahab tribute Tere Bina to late master Ustad Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan. Rahman himself sings this song, 'Tere Bina' eventually turns out to be the best number in the whole package.

2. Ay Hairathe, a somewhat unconventional composition with influences of Ghazal music Hariharan ji what a great singer he is which he has proved again gets to show his vocal range in this number after Rahman introduces the song in his deep humming voice. Alka Yagnik too does a commendable job.

3. Barso re Na re Na re Na Na re Na re this is not your usual Baarish song. Shreya sounds very different and sweet very unusual totally different I guss that why we all call AR Rahman GURU.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Bumping up for further discussion. Please join in! I'd love to hear your views.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Qwest

There are a number of songs in 'Guru' Here is 3 song that I am enjoying listening to it. Rahman sahab have composed Guru with keeping few factor in his mind with several different styles of music used throughout the Album.

We will not be able to compare one song to the other but it is still a choice of individual listener.
My choices are as follows.

1. Tere Bina that Rahman Shab shows his wizardry. A highly addictive song with influences of Sufi Qawwalis and added the Indian classical, the song is a just simply wonderful more I listen to it I think of Kailash Kher he could be a better choice for that song. Whenever A R Rahman sings, the song becomes special. Rahman Sahab tribute Tere Bina to late master Ustad Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan. Rahman himself sings this song, 'Tere Bina' eventually turns out to be the best number in the whole package.
I am still getting atuned to this number. It is #2 on my list. 😊 True...not a refined singer, but ARRs rustic quality is rather amazing.


2. Ay Hairathe, a somewhat unconventional composition with influences of Ghazal music Hariharan ji what a great singer he is which he has proved again gets to show his vocal range in this number after Rahman introduces the song in his deep humming voice. Alka Yagnik too does a commendable job.
I haven't paid a great deal of attention to this song. However, it does fit right into my list of preferences as far as genre is concerned. As I mentioned, I'm not Alka was the right counterpoint for this song...I almost wished to hear a huskier female voice instead.


3. Barso re Na re Na re Na Na re Na re this is not your usual Baarish song. Shreya sounds very different and sweet very unusual totally different I guss that why we all call AR Rahman GURU.
You're definitely right...attempting to choreograph to the lyrics is rather hard. I tend to choreograph a more classical dance every time I listen to it. The southern/classical element if prevalent in the music itself, though not so much so in the lyrics. This makes #1 on my list. 😃

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Good analysis Simtara! 👏 Frankly, I was a bit disappointed with the music. I guess I have high expectations from ARR. But otherwise they are great songs, just not of the same caliber as his other hits!

I loved Barso re though! And yes it's very danceable to 😛
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Hi Sravi..thanks for the response.

You're right...not quite up to par with his usual work..but that's what I'd thought about RDB as well. I'm giving it time. Barso Re has definitely grown on me. 😃 Tere Bina as well... others are still taking some time.

They all are rather unique in style. Quite the variety in this selection. 😊

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