June 9 Unfairness, Bias, Leslie, Abhijeet - Page 3

Originally posted by: shadyhtown

Okay the UA fans are taking my argument the wrong way.

UA were the best today, I've said that twice in my post. I am not unhappy with the judgment and singing stars they got.

I'm unhappy with Abhijit's attitude and behavior and Leslie's confused state of mind.

Well then, I completely agree with you.😊

Originally posted by: ranig

See , My favourites were Himani, Vinit, NIhira, Hemu- in that order, but I would have been happy if any of the four won because I thought that they were all absolutely brilliant. About Debojit I thought he was good at times, and not at times.

HOwever, I liked his attitude which matters to me. Also I feel there has been some good that has happened due to his win in the region of Assam. Finally, this is a show that has been based on multiple voting and if BS wins as Debojit did at the end I will accept it as that is the premise of the show. I will never blame the singer for his/her win.

Finally, I feel the good singers will be praised in these competitions however they may not be the ones who win.

I am fan of your posts, your opinions are mostly balanced. I agree with you. My objection is against the bad mouthing of Banjo, thats it. And I hope atmosphere will get better in coming days.

IndianMusicLove, thanks for the complement 😊 I am sorry if we have gone haywire with our criticism of Bonjoystna.
I have to admit, I am not too impressed with her singing, and I was also annoyed that a good singer like Sharib had to paired with her. BUt, Of course maybe I am being harsh. I will watch out for that and try to make the atmosphere better.

It does take a lot of courage for any singer to get to this level of competition and at the same time take public criticism. I feel for all the contestants when it comes to this.

i agree wit shady as far as things about leslie and abhijit are concerned
they surely did everything they could to irritate everyone
but the conspiracy angle which u have tried to show is very weird
why do we require to give an excuse tht there is a conspiracy involved everytime our favorite doesnt perform well???
in C2005 too right through the competition vinit along wit nihira was the only contestant getting the maximum marks
and the people whose favorite wasnt vinit made tall claims tht the competition is fixed for vinit to win it!!!
and wht did happen in the end?????
all these tall claims which were just an excuse for defending ur personal favorite were proven wrong
the same thing is happening again in emaet
i am neither a fan of ua nor bs
i like both the jodis equally according to their respective performances
but the conspiracy theory is really absurd!!! 😛

Originally posted by: cutegirl10

i agree wit shady as far as things about leslie and abhijit are concerned
they surely did everything they could to irritate everyone
but the conspiracy angle which u have tried to show is very weird
why do we require to give an excuse tht there is a conspiracy involved everytime our favorite doesnt perform well???
in C2005 too right through the competition vinit along wit nihira was the only contestant getting the maximum marks
and the people whose favorite wasnt vinit made tall claims tht the competition is fixed for vinit to win it!!!
and wht did happen in the end?????
all these tall claims which were just an excuse for defending ur personal favorite were proven wrong
the same thing is happening again in emaet
i am neither a fan of ua nor bs
i like both the jodis equally according to their respective performances
but the conspiracy theory is really absurd!!! 😛

Thanks for bringing that up.

First of all, 'conspiracy' is too strong a word, but I do have a personal feeling GS is trying to give UA the easy end of the stick as far as certain issues are concerned - like MD, toss, host supporter, overzealous judge (Abhijit), mike controversy, lateness controversy, leg injury promotion etc..

By the way, this conspiracy theory has nothing to do with their singing or performance. If such a thing does exist, it cannot make BS or UA sing any better or worse. Yes, it can affect the way people perceive their performance, and the way they vote.

It has nothing to do with UA performing better today. It just has to do with the attitude shown by the celeb judge, and the overall happenings. Last week BS had performed better and gotten more stars than UA, but I was still unhappy with the way the MD was rude to Sharib, and the way that private conversation was telecasted on TV for all.

Originally posted by: shadyhtown

Thanks for bringing that up.

First of all, 'conspiracy' is too strong a word, but I do have a personal feeling GS is trying to give UA the easy end of the stick as far as certain issues are concerned - like MD, toss, host supporter, overzealous judge (Abhijit), mike controversy, lateness controversy, leg injury promotion etc..

By the way, this conspiracy theory has nothing to do with their singing or performance. If such a thing does exist, it cannot make BS or UA sing any better or worse. Yes, it can affect the way people perceive their performance, and the way they vote.

It has nothing to do with UA performing better today. It just has to do with the attitude shown by the celeb judge, and the overall happenings. Last week BS had performed better and gotten more stars than UA, but I was still unhappy with the way the MD was rude to Sharib, and the way that private conversation was telecasted on TV for all.

whtever u have told may definitely be right!!!

or it may just be a co-incidence

but whtever the fact is the truth is tht bs fans will definitely support this theory and ua fans will definitely do whtever they can to prove this wrong

this is because no-one over here knows the actual truth

we hace a very strong example of c2005 behind us where the results were totally different from wht all of us had expected it to be

who knows history may repeat itself and bs will end up winning this contest!!😛

Originally posted by: shadyhtown

I saw today's episode, and I had so many thoughts going through my mind that I simply had to express them. Before I start, let me tell you that I am a BS supporter, so you can take that into perspective.

The episode started, as usual, with a toss. Can we please get rid of this farce, Gajji? Call it a coincidence or what you may, but the toss has been used 3 times so far, UA have been given heads each time, and guess what, it's been heads all 3 times! Are you sure it's not the Sholay coin – Rohit?? The first time, UA choose to 'bat', 2^nd time it's 'fielding', and third time – surprise surprise – 'batting' again..

Not Relevant. Nothing to do with performance. You can make up all the conspiracy theories you want, but this issue has no impact on the performance. Last week when UA won the toss and sang first they screwed up. It was not their day, similarly today was not BS's day.

Today's round was an Alka/Abhijeet special (well.. more like an Alka super-special – all songs were hers). And that generally means slow-paced, soft romantic songs. Which is UA's specialty – they are amazing in those type of songs. BS, on the other hand, are more comfortable with the faced-paced, non-traditional songs. Hmmmmm…

Back during C2005, Abhilash had analyzed a finale episode between Vinit and Debojit, where we had three singers as judges – Sandesh Shandilya, Shantanu Moitra, and Pritam Chakraborty. All the 6 songs – 2 each – happened to be Sonu Nigam songs, and Abhi declared this to be quite unfair, as it was home ground for Vinit. Using the same argument, I will say that today's songs were home ground for UA. Not only are U and A more comfortable with the kind of songs provided, but their voices also suit Alka and Abhijeet. Can't say the same for Sharib and Banjyotsna. In the case of Banjo, expecting her to sing Alka songs is like asking Nihira to sing Jaspinder Narula songs. No no no – not comparing B and N; simply using an example to show that the voices don't match. B is more suited to Sunidhi Chauhan than Alka Yagnik.

Sorry Shady bhai cannot agree with you at all. If you remember, last week Banjo was the best singer in the pre-recorded round. She was absolutely mindblowing. Mind it, it was an Alka Yagnik song, and I could not find any difference between AY's voice and Banjo's voice in that song. Today just after I finished watching the US episode, the Movie Lucky was coming on some channel and luckily that song came right after EMET, so I could compare it better. The problem with Banjo is that she is extremely nervous. When recording in a studio she is fantastic, but when performing infront of audience, she is 🤢.

But that doesn't take away from the performances – and yes, UA were the superior performers today. Aishwarya, in particular, was excellent. Ujjaini again faltered on the higher notes – this really is getting to be a regular blemish on the talented singer. She was particularly shrill on the 'Naaaaam' in the 'Tera Naaaam likh diya' song in the final round (how did they get 7 for that??). Her assigned MD commented on her high note problems, Alka commented on it in 2 songs, and wonder of wonders – even Leslie commented on that. So it turns you do have a musical brain, Les.

Sharib was nice, but not as good as Aishwarya. Ash had the perfect tone to match Abhijeet, while Sharib's voice didn't suit it. Note in the 2^nd song where they were asking him to stress longer and softer on the notes, Abhijeet style, but Sharib found it difficult. Don't worry Sharib – hopefully we'll have a Sonu or Udit or Rafi episode, and you can sing openly. As for Banjo, everyone has already stressed too much on how she let Sharib down – so I won't repeat it again. Buck up Banjo, and demand YOUR type of songs next time.

Can't agree with you again. The first BS song today from the movie Josh was a Udit Narayan song. But Sharib was not at all upto the mark. My expectation from Sharib is much higher than that. Basically, today it was not their day. You can blame the GG's, Abhijit, GS, and who ever you want but it was not their day, and just the same thing happened with UA last week.

Why does it seem to me like everything is being done in order to help ensure that UA win? For starters, they have the better MD. Anand Sharma is much more qualified than the other person (forgot his name), and we could see that in the advice they gave to their respective contestants. When B asked her MD what she was doing wrong – he gave an answer along the lines of, 'you're doing something wrong – we don't know what'. And when S asks him about their mistakes in the Rabba song, he goes into a monologue about accepting criticism. In fact, the choreographer guy sounded more helpful that him. Why was he even chosen to help BS? Wasn't he the one who launched into an angry tirade against them a few weeks back? And he also picked on Sharib last week. This guy has a temper, is rude, insensitive, doesn't like BS, and is a lousy choice for them.

Frankly Shady bhai, BS should have been disqualified last week on the recording round. They were given 25 minutes more than UA. Why didn't you think of all the conspiracy theories last week.

Then there's also the issue of assigning each host to support each jodi. Is that necessary? Can't we show both of them as neutral? Picture this – a popular TV star and movie actor supports one jodi, a relatively unknown lady with no real credentials or fan-following supports the other jodi. Who do you suppose the common voter would be more influenced by?

And why was the mike suddenly conked out for Sharib in the 2nd song? Please don't mess up a singer's flow in your quest to create controversy, Gajji. It's simply not worth the TRPs! Even the musicians weren't good with the track for that particular song. And Alka ji said as such. They needed to go review the beats in the actual song. Here it didn't sound like the original.

Not a big deal Shady bhai. Happened with Aishwarya too. These are technical problems. Actually Sharib has a habit of streching the notes, and therefore he missed the beat. But Abhijit covered him saying that there is no marking on the track, and asked Sharib to cut the alaap a little bit.

It was not as if BS were singing on that track for the first time. They have practised with the same beats/track earlier too. So, why was he given another chance for missing the beat. Why don't you find Abhijit's fault here for supporting BS.

As per as Abhijit's comments are concerned, he is an ass. He has said a lot of things about lot of renowned people. But whatever he says, he is very straight forward. I don't think that he has any personal enimity with BS. So, why would he try to pull them down. If you think that GS has asked him to do so, then let me tell you he does not give a rats ass to GS. He is a weirdo. He doesn't care anybody.

Leslie. This guy never fails to bewilder me. What he says is not what he wants, what he wants is not reflected in his stars, what the stars mean – I doubt even he understands. In the first round, he says UA were thanda in chemistry, monotonously stood in one place, and didn't 'use the stage'. Then he gives them 6 stars, for what? Right after them come BS, they 'use the stage', use an imaginary prop, get some positive comment from Les, and still end up getting only 5 stars. What does this guy even want?? In the next round, worried, BS 'use the stage' even more, and get even fewer stars. Seems nothing can please Leslie. Most of the time it looks like he doesn't know whether to rate for singing or for chemistry. This guy doesn't even seem to have a mind of his own. When Rohit shouted 'fantastic' to BS' final performance, Leslie followed suit, and when Abhijit derided them, he covered up saying his fantastic was only because they had improved, but they will only worthy of 4 stars. And if he had any credibility left, he lost it all when he succumbed to Abhijeet's requests for a 7^th star for UA.

And Abhijeet. Where do I start? Why do they keep calling this idiot back every time? He always ends up making a fool of himself and embarrassing everyone connected with the show. The world has already seen his C2005 Grand Finale antics. Back then, it seemed as if he was punch drunk. Today, it seemed he was on a double dose of PHP. He seemed 'high' right from the beginning. As soon as he came, he announced aloud that all the judges would have a unanimous verdict on the best jodi – as if they had sat at the back with Gajji and decided upon that. And for him, it was UA from the start. In the first round, he compared them favorably to Alka and Hariharan for that specific song – are you serious?? In any case, Alka and Hari didn't seem to agree. In the 2^nd round, he said Ash was 90% as good as the original, and he would be 19 to his 20 (please don't tell me he's getting HR's 20-20 hangover) while Sharib was more like 10. (By the way, 19 out of 20 is 95%, not 90. Great Math!!) And in the third round, he again went overboard. Yes, Abhijeet, UA were very good today, but please keep your excitement and enthusiasm in check – no need to get overzealous. It starts looking fake, and then the back-door planning starts becoming visible. The worst was when he literally begged (or was it bullied) Leslie into giving them the extra star for that oh-so-lovely 14. You're a guest, stay as a guest, no need to behave like an interfering a**!

On the other hand, he was very sharp with Sharib. Alka ji was nice enough to support Sharib, who had sung well without good support from Banjo. He was simply ruthless in some places - especially his retort when Sharib was trying to explain about his health. (Okay that's not a good excuse, but everyone from U to A to B has used it at some point in time, and they weren't shouted at like this). And, in the end, when they had their best performance of the day, what was the need to tell Sharib, "You've improved, but you're not the best"?? That, to me, reeks of bias, insecurity, jealousy – take your pick.

All in all, a stomach churning day, thanks to the behavior, attitude, and obvious bias that seemed to be in place for UA. Just my opinion.

By the way, this is how I feel the individual performers ranked today.

1) Aishwarya - Excellent

2) Ujjaini/Sharib - Couldn't stand Ujjaini's high note problem, Sharib also not at his best

3) Banjyotsna - Forgettable day

Overall, UA were better today.

Well said Appaji, I too feel it was just not BS's day.

Originally posted by: bangboy

What did Abhijeeth have in mind to take revenge n BS..Till today Few members were cursing GGS for not giving enough stars for BS..Now they have satrted attacking on celeb guests that to Melody queen alkaji and saptarshi Abhijeeth..This is not at all tolerable..U r unable to digest the fact that UA r superior to BS...
And also Sharib is not as good as Final5 of challenge2005 as many ppl think...

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"Aisi deewangi dekhi nahin kahin"

BS r just suited for Item songs only where as UA can sing all type of songs(Proof:Ishq Khudai to soft item)

well bangboy last week BS were better than UA and dont forget UA were bad too

this week the same is with BS and UA were better

but it doesn t mean UA are better than BS overall

i would say its BS who are better as they have better tonal quality then UA

bangboy u r saying that BS are suited for item songs only right. but let me me remind u some of their really very good performances

love ke liye

dil ko tumse pyar hua

chori chori chupke se

fiza

i really think BS is more versatile than UA

well well well its just my opinion 😃