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Posted: 19 years ago
#1
After reading most of the opinions, analysis, articles and rumours being expounded on this forum I would like to try once to put the things in a fresh perspective. My aim here is to be direct and get to the bottom of it all.

At the outset I would like to mention that I am fan of no one and my aim here is to simply be objective and clear. The only person I really liked in this show was Nihira but since her outset I don't have any favourites. Personally I feel all the remaining ones are quite good (in their own way), plus or minus here or there.

Now coming back to the main point, If we have followed the show closely from the very beginning there are few things that are quite clear and everybody would have noticed. First, everybody, which includes the mentors and the participants, at some point or the other put on some kind of a farcical act. Be it some emotional drama about passing the fifty bucks, or some kind of a ma act, (or other equally irritating stuff). They all did that. No one is excused from it.

Second, if you would have noticed this carefully, out of the all the 5 mentors the only mentor who was a bit decent with the participants right from the beginning was ID. While others were enjoying the power trip by bashing the innocent participants, ID was the one supporting and encouraging them. That is the second fact.

Third, any game or reality show is defined by certain rules, and as long as the rules are not being broken it is alright to do certain things within the given parameters. Now be it south being biased towards hema or assam towards debu, it matters little. It is all fair within the boundaries defined in the game and there is nothing illegal about it. That is the 3rd fact. Again, I am not siding with anyone here, I am simply stating facts. The only person I really liked was Nihira and ever since she went out I don't have any personal attachments to anyone.

Fourth, the walkout these people staged was clearly out of contempt. That is very clear, and needs no further discussion or elaborations. Let us not mince words here. Both the mentors and these 3 kids were party to this and it was a deliberate attempt to undermine Debu and ID, this is very clear. It is also not the case that these kids were beguiled into doing all this by their mentors, they were themselves 'willingfully' involved in it. No matter how much we may admire them, the fact remains they did it! In face of all this I feel it is really desirable that we should see Debu wins. I am not canvassing for him, I am just speaking in all fairness. Not that I really care much about Debu winning. I am myself from Lucknow and work in Hyderabad so there is no reason for me to be biased towards him. If at all I would have inclinations towards Vinit or Hema. The thing is these people deliberately belittled and insulted ID and Debu in front of the world and that really pissed me off. To see them win despite all this ugliness would be very suffocating. In all fairness we have to set right what has been wronged. Something really bad has happened and we cannot ignore that. To see them get away with it in all glory despite what they have done would be so unfair! So I request you all to please consider this. That is all my point.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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you don't know the exact circumstances/pressure these kids were under,
don't bash them - they have already asked for forgiveness. I am sure you
have asked for forgiveness in the past and people didn't just throw you out.

forget the analysis and vote for the best singer!

Simran
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: simranlaks_2005

you don't know the exact circumstances/pressure these kids were under,
don't bash them - they have already asked for forgiveness. I am sure you
have asked for forgiveness in the past and people didn't just throw you out.

forget the analysis and vote for the best singer!

Simran

Totally agree with you. We should vote for the best singer.. forget about any other comments / analysis

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Posted: 19 years ago
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These politics go very deep. Half an hour later asking for forgiveness doesn't mean much and it cannot undo the damage.
Edited by whoknows18 - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: whoknows18

After reading most of the opinions, analysis, articles and rumours being expounded on this forum I would like to try once to put the things in a fresh perspective. My aim here is to be direct and get to the bottom of it all.

At the outset I would like to mention that I am fan of no one and my aim here is to simply be objective and clear. The only person I really liked in this show was Nihira but since her outset I don't have any favourites. Personally I feel all the remaining ones are quite good (in their own way), plus or minus here or there.

Now coming back to the main point, If we have followed the show closely from the very beginning there are few things that are quite clear and everybody would have noticed. First, everybody, which includes the mentors and the participants, at some point or the other put on some kind of a farcical act. Be it some emotional drama about passing the fifty bucks, or some kind of a ma act, (or other equally irritating stuff). They all did that. No one is excused from it.

Second, if you would have noticed this carefully, out of the all the 5 mentors the only mentor who was a bit decent with the participants right from the beginning was ID. While others were enjoying the power trip by bashing the innocent participants, ID was the one supporting and encouraging them. That is the second fact.

Third, any game or reality show is defined by certain rules, and as long as the rules are not being broken it is alright to do certain things within the given parameters. Now be it south being biased towards hema or assam towards debu, it matters little. It is all fair within the boundaries defined in the game and there is nothing illegal about it. That is the 3rd fact. Again, I am not siding with anyone here, I am simply stating facts. The only person I really liked was Nihira and ever since she went out I don't have any personal attachments to anyone.

Fourth, the walkout these people staged was clearly out of contempt. That is very clear, and needs no further discussion or elaborations. Let us not mince words here. Both the mentors and these 3 kids were party to this and it was a deliberate attempt to undermine Debu and ID, this is very clear. It is also not the case that these kids were beguiled into doing all this by their mentors, they were themselves 'willingfully' involved in it. No matter how much we may admire them, the fact remains they did it! In face of all this I feel it is really desirable that we should see Debu wins. I am not canvassing for him, I am just speaking in all fairness. Not that I really care much about Debu winning. I am myself from Lucknow and work in Hyderabad so there is no reason for me to be biased towards him. If at all I would have inclinations towards Vinit or Hema. The thing is these people deliberately belittled and insulted ID and Debu in front of the world and that really pissed me off. To see them win despite all this ugliness would be very suffocating. In all fairness we have to set right what has been wronged. Something really bad has happened and we cannot ignore that. To see them get away with it in all glory despite what they have done would be so unfair! So I request you all to please consider this. That is all my point.




👏 well said, my friend.
Edited by musiclover7 - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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in all this walk out drama by the 3 contestants i simply just cannot understand one thing. i dont know what this point leads to but this thing is itching me. if these three had the guts to walk up to the stage n say that they accept their defeats( for which they r being appreciated by some ppl) , in which hell did their guts go when evrybody asked them the reason behind their very stupid decision. nobody dared to answer then n even when vinit opened his mouth, uttered very wrong words. n till now all the three were dying to win this competition, literally some were begging for votes giving love for lover or mom as reasons behind their passion for a win of this game,where the hell all their love n passion went to? why was not even competing in the competition let alone win or lose their main aim? is the fact that now all of these 3 have got their breaks n playback offers ready, somewhere behind their decision?
i dont know what these points lead to? i mean does this indicate that this decision was entirely their own or they were made to do all this? i dont know but i wud like others to help figure this out rather simply make absurd non sense comments.
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Posted: 19 years ago
#7
see it is very simple. we as humans don't act rationally all the time. in real world there are times when emotions like jealousy, arrogance, power struggle etc take over us so completely that we tend to become irrational. that is the reason ambani's split, that is reason we have wars otherwise there is no rational reason for any of this. here AS, HR, hema, himani and vinit are all part of one group who collectively disliked ID and debu because of the prominence struggle. that is the reason for all the backstage politics and manipulations. in rage and jealously they acted the way they did. that is all that is to it. war is simply trying to put the other person down, that is the sole purpose of war.

I think most of the people saw that when the Jan 19th show was telecasted, that was the reason why people disliked the AS, HR group so much. All I am asking now is not to confuse ourselves unnecessary with too many theories, rumours, etc. What happened was quite evident and we should remember it... and whatever way possible bring back some of the dignity back to ID and debu. And the only way I think this can be done is by letting them win.
Edited by whoknows18 - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Agreed, the point that should be noted here is that the final 12 were selected not by public voting but by various judges and specially those 10 participants who were not there by the public voting do have talent if they reached this stage.

Now coming to public voting, we always like or dislike a person because of his character as a whole and not always because of how good he is only at his work. I have never seen Debu as a winner before but I certainly don't approve of these three trying to belittle one of their fellow contestents. Yes, they all sing well and after Nihira's elimination, I don't really care who wins but still I wish Vinit doesn't as he lacks those values that I would want the winner to have besides good singing.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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These politics go very deep. Half an hour later asking for forgiveness doesn't
mean much and it cannot undo the damage. QUOTE



If you learn to forgive, you will go a long way in life. I am sure people have
forgiven you for your mistakes however small or big.

If you don't like what I said, I have nothing more to add.


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Posted: 19 years ago
#10
See, I am totally in favor of forgiveness. My point is that the there was not much truth in their act of apologizing. You tell me, simply half an hour later after all that happned is it possible to believe that everybody including all the moms and the participants truly apologized? It was merely verbal, with no substance to it. It is quite evident that all that was done with purpose, most probably at the insistence of gajji or shaan to bring back some mellowness and respectibility back into the program. At the same time they also realized the blunder that had happened because their plan had simply backfired. They had not expected ID, gajji, shaan and public to react so unfavorably. They were in complete mess. Having realized that they simply tried to salvage their position by apologizing. That is what happened.
Edited by whoknows18 - 19 years ago

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